SDS Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 I'd like to find a handful of people (3?) who are invested in this group that would like to be a moderator and who is supported by the group as a good choice. Feel free to nominate someone. Please refrain from jokes and nonsense. I'd like a serious effort to if anyone fits the bill. With the overriding point that this is first and foremost a Buffalo Bills community, here are some loose expectations: Watch for objectionable content. Promotion of violence, etc... Identify over-the-top posters who are here to disrupt and not engage in good faith discussion Note any other general concerns you may have If anyone is interested, and there may not, I think I'd like to try 1-year commitments and then review every year afterwards. Since this isn't season based, Jan 1st is a good time to touch base every year. Anyone willing to step forward now, would go to 12/31/2023. This would be a mostly thankless task, one that I haven't been up to myself for years. Perhaps having some new people lend a helping hand would be a benefit to all. If the choices are less than ideal, we will just keep it the way it is. No hard feelings if I pass on anyone in particular. With that said, is there a group of contributors that would be good in your eyes?
Unforgiven Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 I'll leave. I'm sure people on the right are the target here. bye. 2 1 2 2
SDS Posted September 4, 2021 Author Posted September 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Unforgiven said: I'll leave. I'm sure people on the right are the target here. bye. 1st post -> tangent. I’d like to stay on topic. What I wrote applies equally to any person.
Figster Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 They may not like my recommendation because it is a thankless job IMO.( x10 in PPP) I'm not sure what happened while I was away. I like Beerball as a mod. Hes experienced and I think he gets along well with people IMO. Beerball also has a good intellect for PPP IMO.
SDS Posted September 4, 2021 Author Posted September 4, 2021 24 minutes ago, Figster said: They may not like my recommendation because it is a thankless job IMO.( x10 in PPP) I'm not sure what happened while I was away. I like Beerball as a mod. Hes experienced and I think he gets along well with people IMO. Beerball also has a good intellect for PPP IMO. Nothing has happened. Just been doing a lot of community stuff. 1
Buffarukus Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 i dont really think pulling someone from this section is a good idea. most people have a political bias, whether they admit it or not. I'd think you'd want people that are not really paying attention to politics in general so they are only looking at guideline infractions and not letting anything else make the judgments. last thing I'd want to see is heavy handed moderation that constantly leans in a direction. smaller boards are the last places where "moderation" isn't used for flat out censorship. the fact this place hasn't followed the trend so far is what makes it different. 1
SDS Posted September 4, 2021 Author Posted September 4, 2021 Just now, Buffarukus said: i dont really think pulling someone from this section is a good idea. most people have a political bias, whether they admit it or not. I'd think you'd want people that are not really paying attention to politics in general so they are only looking at guideline infractions and not letting anything else make the judgments. last thing I'd want to see is heavy handed moderation that constantly leans in a direction. smaller boards are the last places where "moderation" isn't used for flat out censorship. the fact this place hasn't followed the trend so far is what makes it different. I don’t think anything I had written above suggests heavy-handed moderation. I also don’t think anyone not involved here would willingly come here to be a moderator. 1
Buffarukus Posted September 4, 2021 Posted September 4, 2021 1 minute ago, SDS said: I don’t think anything I had written above suggests heavy-handed moderation. I also don’t think anyone not involved here would willingly come here to be a moderator. i dont think the original intent is ever that but in a day and age some consider words violence and opposing viewpoints are considered propaganda it can quickly get there with the wrong moderator. its happening all over the place. just my two cents. im obv not on here enough to see everything that goes on. best bet imo. 3 libertarians! 👍
SDS Posted September 4, 2021 Author Posted September 4, 2021 Just now, Buffarukus said: i dont think the original intent is ever that but in a day and age some consider words violence and opposing viewpoints are considered propaganda it can quickly get there with the wrong moderator. its happening all over the place. just my two cents. im obv not on here enough to see everything that goes on. best bet imo. 3 libertarians! 👍 Suggestions are welcome.
Orlando Buffalo Posted September 5, 2021 Posted September 5, 2021 You might want to consider a simple warning to both sides that if your feeling are hurt easily this is not the place for you. Also something along the lines of the only thing off limits is any version of a personal threat. I don't think many of us mind a little name calling even if it childish. 1
SDS Posted September 5, 2021 Author Posted September 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: You might want to consider a simple warning to both sides that if your feeling are hurt easily this is not the place for you. Also something along the lines of the only thing off limits is any version of a personal threat. I don't think many of us mind a little name calling even if it childish. I’d be happy to pin a topic in the future, but for now I’m really just looking for a couple of people to lend the occasional hand. Any suggestions?
Numark3 Posted September 5, 2021 Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) I’ll gladly take the job! I think we should invite some of our old friends back who left. Not moderate based on politics. Respect the mantra that this forum has traditionally self-moderated and has a higher threshold for argumentative posts. And only moderate on what needs to be removed: (1) poor-intentioned trolls: and (2) the unacceptable—revealing personal information, pedophilia conspiracies against board members, etc. we honestly need just a few people to lead by example. The level of discourse here has really dropped Edited September 5, 2021 by Crayola64 1
snafu Posted September 5, 2021 Posted September 5, 2021 I think nominations should be made by PM to the board owner and whomever becomes a moderator should be given the option of having a second screen persona, if possible.
SDS Posted September 5, 2021 Author Posted September 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, snafu said: I think nominations should be made by PM to the board owner and whomever becomes a moderator should be given the option of having a second screen persona, if possible. if sending me a PM makes people feel more comfortable…
Chef Jim Posted September 5, 2021 Posted September 5, 2021 20 hours ago, SDS said: I'd like to find a handful of people (3?) who are invested in this group that would like to be a moderator and who is supported by the group as a good choice. Feel free to nominate someone. Please refrain from jokes and nonsense. I'd like a serious effort to if anyone fits the bill. With the overriding point that this is first and foremost a Buffalo Bills community, here are some loose expectations: Watch for objectionable content. Promotion of violence, etc... Identify over-the-top posters who are here to disrupt and not engage in good faith discussion Note any other general concerns you may have If anyone is interested, and there may not, I think I'd like to try 1-year commitments and then review every year afterwards. Since this isn't season based, Jan 1st is a good time to touch base every year. Anyone willing to step forward now, would go to 12/31/2023. This would be a mostly thankless task, one that I haven't been up to myself for years. Perhaps having some new people lend a helping hand would be a benefit to all. If the choices are less than ideal, we will just keep it the way it is. No hard feelings if I pass on anyone in particular. With that said, is there a group of contributors that would be good in your eyes? I think this place could use some moderation however there have to be some examples of what constitutes #2 above. And once that, and other offenses, are determined then there needs to be a well defined and progressive disciplinary system. Having said that I have no desire to moderate. 😁 1
SDS Posted September 5, 2021 Author Posted September 5, 2021 40 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I think this place could use some moderation however there have to be some examples of what constitutes #2 above. And once that, and other offenses, are determined then there needs to be a well defined and progressive disciplinary system. Having said that I have no desire to moderate. 😁 In my drug filled fantasy, I am looking for three unicorns that are agreeable to the community. I would also like to win the lottery. But I know I can’t win unless I buy a ticket. If you have suggestions, let me know. 2
Irv Posted September 5, 2021 Posted September 5, 2021 I don’t think PPP can be moderated fairly. I notice political bias on the other TBD sections. Moderators giving out penalty points based on their personal opinions. It would be even worse here by a factor of 10. Would destroy PPP and I haven’t noticed a need. We go at it tooth and nail but nobody has stepped over the line. Solving a problem that doesn’t exist. 3 1 1
Tenhigh Posted September 6, 2021 Posted September 6, 2021 I think @oldmanfan would be a good mod. 2 1 1
Governor Posted September 6, 2021 Posted September 6, 2021 I would just leave it be. Most of us know where the line is and we keep it real most of the time. I’ve only seen a few vicious attacks so far and someone let that person(s) know to chill. if there’s a moderator then half of the news sources would get removed and the entire place would just turn into victimhood/censorship whining. The level of discourse probably went down because American politics is no longer an art form and now resides in the gutter since 2015. Maybe just a moderator to make sure there aren’t physical threats and violence. 2 1
oldmanfan Posted September 6, 2021 Posted September 6, 2021 8 hours ago, Tenhigh said: I think @oldmanfan would be a good mod. I'm too busy right now, but plan to semi-retire in 2022 so I'd consider it then. 1
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