TH3 Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 24 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: McDermott lost to Darnold. Belichick lost to a different “unknown” guy, Tua Tagovailoa. He also lost to Geno Smith, Russell Wilson, Colt McCoy, Mark Sanchez and Ben Roethlisberger. Geno Smith🤪 Forgot about him!
Putin Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 In the division with 2 rookie QB’s and Tua going in to his 2nd year I believe we have to sweep 🧹 the division , # 1 seed is the goal GO BILLS BABY !!!
CuseBill Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 Hey since when do we allow OP's to present reasoned analyses backed up by facts on this site? Where are the mods when you need them? Seriously OP, I really appreciate the work you put into this and the presentation! A lot of folks had the same negative reaction to yesterday's post about McDermott not being a good coach against rookie QB's, but you're the only one who went out and did the work to disprove the lie. Kudos to you! 1 2
Putin Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 27 minutes ago, TH3 said: Geno Smith🤪 Forgot about him! How can you forget about him ?? You don’t remember the arguments with the Jets fans who’s got a better QB ? BTW we drafted EJ in the 1st found that same year 🤦🏼♂️ !!
teef Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Stop fat shaming me 🥺 i would never!
Bobby Hooks Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, teef said: i would never! You would never stop fat shaming him? 1
Jobot Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 What's the all time stat for any coach? I'd imagine this is not unusual for good teams/coaches.. This is one of those lame media stats that gets overplayed because broadcast booths have nothing noteworthy to talk about. 1
Billy Claude Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 Conclusion: playoff teams usually do very well against rookie qbs.
teef Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, Bobby Hooks said: You would never stop fat shaming him? that's correct. every morning and evening, i text fatty to put the fork down.
billsfan1959 Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, JGMcD2 said: Belichick lost to a different “unknown” guy, Tua Tagovailoa. He also lost to Geno Smith, Russell Wilson, Colt McCoy, Mark Sanchez and Ben Roethlisberger. Belichick did go on to make life pretty miserable for Sanchez - and also got to enjoy, first hand, this beautiful moment... 1
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 3 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: After Mac Jones was named the starting QB for the New England Patriots yesterday, someone in the Cam Newton cut thread made a point that they were excited to see what McDermott would scheme up for the rookie Jones. After looking a little bit closer we are actually slated to face rookie QBs 5 times this season. Week 9, Trevor Lawrence Week 10, Zach Wilson Week 13, Mac Jones Week 16, Mac Jones Week 18, Zach Wilson Some comments were made suggesting that McDermott isn't actually good against rookie QBs... not that he doesn't ultimately win the game... but that he doesn't chew up and spit out rookie QBs like other defensive gurus. I wanted to take a look at this, and needed to make a comparison. The first name that came to mind was Bill Belichick. Bill has been at it a lot longer, but many consider him the best and most consistent at frustrating and confusing young QBs, especially rookies. Let's take a look... Bill Belichick Sean McDermott It's a small sample size for McDermott as the head coach of the Buffalo Bills... but he's been pretty darn good thus far. At the end of this year McDermott will have faced 11 rookie QBs to Belichick's 30 (Wilson x2 and Lawrence). I am curious to follow along and see if McDermott can keep up the pace he is on... because thus far he has been GREAT at frustrating and confusing rookie QBs. Great stuff OP, thanks for doing the research!
PatsFanNH Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 9 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: McDermott lost to Darnold. Belichick lost to a different “unknown” guy, Tua Tagovailoa. He also lost to Geno Smith, Russell Wilson, Colt McCoy, Mark Sanchez and Ben Roethlisberger. Thanks, he has also beaten every one of those QBs as well (Big Ben in the same season) 9 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: McDermott lost to Darnold. Belichick lost to a different “unknown” guy, Tua Tagovailoa. He also lost to Geno Smith, Russell Wilson, Colt McCoy, Mark Sanchez and Ben Roethlisberger. Thanks, he has also beaten every one of those QBs as well (Big Ben in the same season) 9 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: McDermott lost to Darnold. Belichick lost to a different “unknown” guy, Tua Tagovailoa. He also lost to Geno Smith, Russell Wilson, Colt McCoy, Mark Sanchez and Ben Roethlisberger. Thanks, he has also beaten every one of those QBs as well (Big Ben in the same season) 9 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: McDermott lost to Darnold. Belichick lost to a different “unknown” guy, Tua Tagovailoa. He also lost to Geno Smith, Russell Wilson, Colt McCoy, Mark Sanchez and Ben Roethlisberger. Thanks, he has also beaten every one of those QBs as well (Big Ben in the same season)
Putin Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Thanks, he has also beaten every one of those QBs as well (Big Ben in the same season) Thanks, he has also beaten every one of those QBs as well (Big Ben in the same season) Thanks, he has also beaten every one of those QBs as well (Big Ben in the same season) Thanks, he has also beaten every one of those QBs as well (Big Ben in the same season) Go get the paper get the paper 3
JGMcD2 Posted September 2, 2021 Author Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said: Thanks, he has also beaten every one of those QBs as well (Big Ben in the same season) Thanks, he has also beaten every one of those QBs as well (Big Ben in the same season) Thanks, he has also beaten every one of those QBs as well (Big Ben in the same season) Thanks, he has also beaten every one of those QBs as well (Big Ben in the same season) Yeah, that’s cool. This wasn’t really a Belichick thread or me trying to say McDermott is better… you seem kind of defensive? The whole point was to disprove a claim that McDermott isn’t good against rookie QBs… so I compared him to the guy that first comes to mind when it comes to terrorizing rookie QBs. You’re correct. He lost to and beat Geno, Sanchez and Roethlisberger in their rookie seasons. Beat Russell Wilson and Colt McCoy a few years down the line. Belichick is yet to beat Tua Tagovailoa. Edited September 2, 2021 by JGMcD2
Doc Brown Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 Makes sense as Herbert's two worst games last year were against Buffalo and New England. So even if these rookie QB's are as good as he is out of the gate I have faith that McDermott/Frazier will find a way to confuse them into a couple of mistakes that determine the outcome of the game.
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 13 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: Belichick Wow. I can't believe Belicheck and the Patriots actually lost 6 of these games.
BigDingus Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 It feels weird to think McDermott is on his 5th season here & he's not close to being fired! It used to be unimaginable that any coach would make it through 4 full seasons, let alone not be on the hot seat with replacement speculation running rampant. This is such a comforting feeling! And nobody is demanding to fire our OC & blaming them for every offensive shortcoming? SUPER comforting! I love this 😁 1
machine gun kelly Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 18 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: Belichick did go on to make life pretty miserable for Sanchez - and also got to enjoy, first hand, this beautiful moment... Never gets old. How the heck did this guy get an analyst gig? Not really worried about McD’s record against rooks. He’ll boost that one this year, you know when we go 17-0 before we win the SB. Go Bills! 1
JGMcD2 Posted September 2, 2021 Author Posted September 2, 2021 19 hours ago, Jobot said: What's the all time stat for any coach? I'd imagine this is not unusual for good teams/coaches.. This is one of those lame media stats that gets overplayed because broadcast booths have nothing noteworthy to talk about. I think you missed the point… but that’s ok.
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