Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 1:46 PM, Sundancer said: I do like seeing a group of men, some with no understanding of female biology like @Over 29 years of fanhood, discuss abortion. And no, I'm not saying that men should have no say but I am saying that it's always funny to watch a group of all males do it. Expand It’s even more comical to see posters just argue with themselves over points already conceded or arguing against obvious quips as some insurmountable obstacle toward forwarding a topic because they are the hand wringers of society that point out problems without solutions and are too weak to take stand or assert positions. Dancing around the topic so kudos for an apropos name. So what your biologically enlightened position on the topic then?
TSOL Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 1:46 PM, Sundancer said: I do like seeing a group of men, some with no understanding of female biology like @Over 29 years of fanhood, discuss abortion. And no, I'm not saying that men should have no say but I am saying that it's always funny to watch a group of all males do it. Expand Irony is a cruel mistress
Motorin' Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) On 9/2/2021 at 2:08 PM, B-Man said: Thread title is incorrect. Expand Yeah, it should read: Texas Deputizes Citizenry to Enforce Anti-Abortion Law... From the Bill: Sec. 171.208. CIVIL LIABILITY FOR VIOLATION OR AIDING OR ABETTING VIOLATION. (a) Any person, other than an officer or employee of a state or local governmental entity in this state, may bring a civil action against any person who: (1) performs or induces an abortion in violation of this subchapter; (2) knowingly engages in conduct that aids or abets the performance or inducement of an abortion, including paying for or reimbursing the costs of an abortion through insurance or otherwise, if the abortion is performed or induced in violation of this subchapter, regardless of whether the person knew or should have known that the abortion would be performed or induced in violation of this subchapter; or (3) intends to engage in the conduct described by Subdivision (1) or (2). (b) If a claimant prevails in an action brought under this section, the court shall award: (1) injunctive relief sufficient to prevent the defendant from violating this subchapter or engaging in acts that aid or abet violations of this subchapter; (2) statutory damages in an amount of not less than $10,000 for each abortion that the defendant performed or induced in violation of this subchapter, and for each abortion performed or induced in violation of this subchapter that the defendant aided or abetted; and (3) costs and attorney's fees. https://legiscan.com/TX/text/SB8/id/2395961 Edited September 2, 2021 by Motorin' 1 2
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted September 2, 2021 Author Posted September 2, 2021 On 9/1/2021 at 6:34 PM, leh-nerd skin-erd said: If it 'won't work', whatcha'all upset about? All this dialogue is what makes us stronger as a nation. Expand Just because a criminal doesn't get away with an attempted crime, its no reason to ignore the crime
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 3:06 PM, Tiberius said: Just because a criminal doesn't get away with an attempted crime, its no reason to ignore the crime Expand There is no allegation of a crime here, there is only a debate over how to make our elections as secure as possible. Dialogue is good!! Together Everyone Achieves More!
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted September 2, 2021 Author Posted September 2, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 3:45 PM, leh-nerd skin-erd said: There is no allegation of a crime here, there is only a debate over how to make our elections as secure as possible. Dialogue is good!! Together Everyone Achieves More! Expand It's an institutional crime to try and make it harder for people to vote. Just imagine a Democrat looked at the 2nd Amendment wrong, you might sort of understand in your own way then 1
B-Man Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 Outrage Over the TX Heartbeat Law Brings out More Bad Takes Than a Roger Corman Movie By Jennifer Oliver O'Connell https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2021/09/01/outrage-over-the-tx-heartbeat-law-brings-out-more-bad-takes-than-a-roger-corman-movie-n436649 It's about the money........... . 1 1
Governor Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 1:46 PM, Sundancer said: I do like seeing a group of men, some with no understanding of female biology like @Over 29 years of fanhood, discuss abortion. And no, I'm not saying that men should have no say but I am saying that it's always funny to watch a group of all males do it. Expand I would like them to talk about abortion right up to Election Day. Imagine if younger women voted in large numbers in these midterm elections. That’s never happened in my lifetime. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 3:47 PM, Tiberius said: It's an institutional crime to try and make it harder for people to vote. Just imagine a Democrat looked at the 2nd Amendment wrong, you might sort of understand in your own way then Expand Is an “institutional crime” a crime from a legal perspective, or just something you like to say? You lost me with “just imagine…” and then referenced something that wasn’t a crime crime.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 2:49 PM, Motorin' said: Yeah, it should read: Texas Deputizes Citizenry to Enforce Anti-Abortion Law... From the Bill: Sec. 171.208. CIVIL LIABILITY FOR VIOLATION OR AIDING OR ABETTING VIOLATION. (a) Any person, other than an officer or employee of a state or local governmental entity in this state, may bring a civil action against any person who: (1) performs or induces an abortion in violation of this subchapter; (2) knowingly engages in conduct that aids or abets the performance or inducement of an abortion, including paying for or reimbursing the costs of an abortion through insurance or otherwise, if the abortion is performed or induced in violation of this subchapter, regardless of whether the person knew or should have known that the abortion would be performed or induced in violation of this subchapter; or (3) intends to engage in the conduct described by Subdivision (1) or (2). (b) If a claimant prevails in an action brought under this section, the court shall award: (1) injunctive relief sufficient to prevent the defendant from violating this subchapter or engaging in acts that aid or abet violations of this subchapter; (2) statutory damages in an amount of not less than $10,000 for each abortion that the defendant performed or induced in violation of this subchapter, and for each abortion performed or induced in violation of this subchapter that the defendant aided or abetted; and (3) costs and attorney's fees. https://legiscan.com/TX/text/SB8/id/2395961 Expand Yep much more accurate description of not only what they did, but how they think they dodged the Supreme Court. More political theater and lawyers getting paid. Now the other lawyers will figure out how to get around it.
Governor Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 BREAKING: Florida's Senate President announces that they will be passing a model of the Texas abortion law.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) it’s confusing Edited September 2, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood 2
Motorin' Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 4:01 PM, B-Man said: Outrage Over the TX Heartbeat Law Brings out More Bad Takes Than a Roger Corman Movie By Jennifer Oliver O'Connell https://redstate.com/jenniferoo/2021/09/01/outrage-over-the-tx-heartbeat-law-brings-out-more-bad-takes-than-a-roger-corman-movie-n436649 It's about the money........... . Expand I'm imagination more of a Christopher Guest movie, where a brigade of thousands of Texan citizens start investigating women all over the state in order to sue them, and everyone they've been in a car with, talked on a phone to.
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted September 2, 2021 Author Posted September 2, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 4:40 PM, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Is an “institutional crime” a crime from a legal perspective, or just something you like to say? You lost me with “just imagine…” and then referenced something that wasn’t a crime crime. Expand Its a law aimed at subverTING THE COMMON GOOD.
Big Blitz Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 Now do guns or sit the f... down (Bloomberg) -- President Joe Biden said the Supreme Court perpetrated an “assault” on women’s rights in a ruling late Wednesday that allowed new Texas abortion restrictions to take effect, and ordered his administration to try to counter the state law. “The Supreme Court’s ruling overnight is an unprecedented assault on a woman’s constitutional rights under Roe v. Wade, which has been the law of the land for almost fifty years,” Biden said in a Thursday statement. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-02/biden-orders-response-to-high-court-assault-on-abortion-rights I guess Dems hate democracy
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 5:26 PM, Tiberius said: Its a law aimed at subverTING THE COMMON GOOD. Expand What’s “common” and “good” varies based on ones perspective. What we are up to now is it is not a crime, just something that you don’t like. As I said when we started here, you’re unhappy that people don’t see things your way. Get in line.
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted September 2, 2021 Author Posted September 2, 2021 On 9/2/2021 at 5:35 PM, leh-nerd skin-erd said: What’s “common” and “good” varies based on ones perspective. What we are up to now is it is not a crime, just something that you don’t like. As I said when we started here, you’re unhappy that people don’t see things your way. Get in line. Expand Sure does! Democracy is good or bad, right? Putin don't like it, that's for sure
Doc Brown Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) On 9/2/2021 at 4:50 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: it’s confusing Expand Can you spread abortions to grandma? Anyways, you can make the same argument with pro lifers. The government shouldn't be able to mandate vaccines because it's people's bodies yet they should be able to regulate woman's bodies by outlawing abortions? Abortion has always been confusing to me on both sides stances. Edited September 2, 2021 by Doc Brown 1
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