Mat68 Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 3:33 PM, PatsFanNH said: Then We get a higher draft pick which hopefully helps us address our WR depth. Expand This is pretty sad. A pats fan is sounding like a Bills fan circa 2009. 2 2
PatsFanNH Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 3:40 PM, unbillievable said: Nate Peterman also looked good in Preseason Expand So have a ton of other QBs who needed up being good. I don’t get the Bills fan love affair with Peterman.
PatsFanNH Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 3:44 PM, Mat68 said: This is pretty sad. A pats fan is sounding like a Bills fan circa 2009. Expand I didn’t say he be a starter, he is pretty much replacing a 1st round bust.. lol
Logic Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) Now that Mac will be starting for the Pats*, I think the Bills will sweep them. McDermott's defenses historically have feasted on rookie QBs. In fact, compared to last season, the entire slate of quarterbacks the Bills face this year is not all that imposing. Mahomes, Brady, Tannehil, MAYBE Matt Ryan. Those are the good ones. Beyond that? Whole bunch of rookies and nobodies. While I don't have the specific numbers in front of me, I do know that McDermott's record as a head coach against average to bad quarterbacks is quite good. Edited August 31, 2021 by Logic
Reader Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 3:25 PM, Mango said: Lets get one thing out of the way, Beasley is a better WR at this stage of his career than Cam is a QB. BUT...they have very similar cap hits if they were to be cut. Maybe don't be shocked if Beasley is cut given McKenzies new vaccination and Stevenson in pre-season? (although I would not put money on it) Expand Both Cam and Beas had to miss practice time too because of that, however Beas's wasn't really his fault while I'm pretty sure Cam messed up protocols. If Cam has already caused himself to be unavailable then that is a very strong reason for him to get the axe. 1
PatsFanNH Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 3:46 PM, YoloinOhio said: Expand I think he was released because he didn’t want be a backup and BB did it out of respect. 1
May Day 10 Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) My gut tells me to fear everything the Patriots are doing. I certainly have some sort of PTSD from watching the 'match-up' from 2001-2019. The fact of the matter is that Mac Jones isnt someone I really fear, and starting him with no safety net in year 1 sounds like inviting disaster. If this were the Jets or Dolphins, we would be laughing at them. I rated (which means nothing) Jones pretty low. I mean he came from an absolutely dominant program who had like 7 players selected in the 1st round of the NFL draft. He doesn't have any high-end traits. I mean, they have a pretty good team around him, but when are people going to stop fearing/expecting that Bill Belichick is capable of molding the next Tom Brady? I really put zero stock in preseason either. It is a different world than a full speed NFL game with actual stakes. I rememeber thinking Jeff Tuel looked like Tom Brady after a preseason game years ago. Edited August 31, 2021 by May Day 10 1 1
PatsFanNH Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 3:48 PM, May Day 10 said: My gut tells me to fear everything the Patriots are doing. The fact of the matter is that Mac Jones isnt someone I really fear, and starting him with no safety net in year 1 sounds like inviting disaster. If this were the Jets or Dolphins, we would be laughing at them. I rated (which means nothing) Jones pretty low. I mean he came from an absolutely dominant program who had like 7 players selected in the 1st round of the NFL draft. He doesn't have any high-end traits. I mean, they have a pretty good team around him, but when are people going to stop fearing/expecting that Bill Belichick is capable of molding the next Tom Brady? Expand First there will not be another Brady. Second Everyone has stated Jones came with the lowest ceiling and highest floor. Meaning everyone expects thin be at least ok to Average, while there is an outside chance he could be great. Also remember he made Jimmy G look like a franchise QB, and Brissett as an average QB.. let’s not speak of the man he made look amazing the year Brady went down.
JohnBonhamRocks Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 3:47 PM, Logic said: Now that Mac will be starting for the Pats*, I think the Bills will sweep them. McDermott's defenses historically have feasted on rookie QBs. In fact, compared to last season, the entire slate of quarterbacks the Bills face this year is not all that imposing. Mahomes, Brady, Tannehil, MAYBE Matt Ryan. Those are the good ones. Beyond that? Whole bunch of rookies and nobodies. While I don't have the specific numbers in front of me, I do know that McDermott's record as a head coach against average to bad quarterbacks is quite good. Expand Roethlisberger (Week 1 before his arm dies) is the only other who had anything resembling real sustained success in the league. Otherwise: Fitzpatrick, Winston, Taylor, Z. Wilson (x2), Wentz (?), Lawrence, Tua (x2), Mac (x2) 1
Mat68 Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 3:48 PM, May Day 10 said: My gut tells me to fear everything the Patriots are doing. The fact of the matter is that Mac Jones isnt someone I really fear, and starting him with no safety net in year 1 sounds like inviting disaster. If this were the Jets or Dolphins, we would be laughing at them. I rated (which means nothing) Jones pretty low. I mean he came from an absolutely dominant program who had like 7 players selected in the 1st round of the NFL draft. He doesn't have any high-end traits. I mean, they have a pretty good team around him, but when are people going to stop fearing/expecting that Bill Belichick is capable of molding the next Tom Brady? Expand Fear Brady, respect the Pats. Jones gives them the ability to play a similar offense as Bradys. Outside at Wr they have a bunch of 3rd and 4ths. Tes are both 3 and 4th options on their previous teams. The offense will be more efficent but average at best. I dont think they have the ability to score more points then the Bills.
FireChans Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 2:15 PM, BruceVilanch said: So you're telling me we get to play two rookies and Tua for the next couple years?? Sign me up. Expand For the most of the next couple of years, they won’t be rookies
Rochesterfan Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 3:15 PM, wjag said: Could this be a vested veteran move? Be just like Belichick to cut him, have all the NFL buzzing and then re-sign him and start him week 1. The man is an evil genius. Expand Most likely not because with his signing bonus and contract this move costs the Pats between 3-4 million in cap space. You typically want to use a guy on a 1 year contract with little guaranteed money.
YoloinOhio Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 3:48 PM, PatsFanNH said: I think he was released because he didn’t want be a backup and BB did it out of respect. Expand Who is the backup? Hoyer? Is stidham still hanging around?
Ghost_002! Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 The back up is hoyer, Stidham is injured and more likely done w the patriots
Woodman19 Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 We have our MVP caliber QB. Take care of your own business and it will take care of itself.
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 3:06 PM, Royale with Cheese said: This is simply not true. In his last 5 appearances against rookie QB's, he's won all 5. I think he's only lost once by a rookie since being a HC and that was against Darnold in 2018. Expand Yeah, I'm not suggesting he doesn't usually ultimately win the game, but he hasn't chewed them up and spit them out like some defensive gurus have a reputation for doing to rookie QBs. 1
Solomon Grundy Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 2:12 PM, Sheneneh Jenkins said: Well alrighty then. Can't wait to see what McD throws at the rookie. This is going to be interesting. Expand Belichick plans to run the ball against the Bills and insert a lot of play action passes. Keep the game simple for the rookie. IMO 3
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