Tommy Callahan Posted August 14 Posted August 14 2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Which explains why Trump was able to move all U.S. personnel out of Afghanistan without harm to a single one. I mean, he did complete the withdrawal, right? Oh. lol, but trump. Come on. you can do better. articulate why you support the current DEM nominee vs pivoting to the orange dude. you got this. 1
BillsFanNC Posted August 14 Posted August 14 8 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: lol, but trump. Come on. you can do better. articulate why you support the current DEM nominee vs pivoting to the orange dude. you got this. You can have a reasonable discussion with commies like Finding. 1
sherpa Posted August 14 Posted August 14 8 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Which explains why Trump was able to move all U.S. personnel out of Afghanistan without harm to a single one. I mean, he did complete the withdrawal, right? Oh. There is simply no defense for the Biden debacle here. None. The Trump thing had an out, which would have been triggered. This was the stupidest, most destructive long term thing that Biden has done, or expressed he wanted done or not done, in a lifelong history of being wrong. Constantly wrong. His lecturing of Reagan as he, (Biden), opposed the strategic defense initiative, which having been funded, now results in the best anti missile defenses in the world comes a distant second, but the man is a complete policy failure robot wearing skin. Third would be his opening days warfare against the energy industry, but that gets little play now that he has changed to the point of secret deals with Venezuela that thankfully never came about. 1 1
The Frankish Reich Posted August 14 Posted August 14 2 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: lol, but trump. Come on. you can do better. articulate why you support the current DEM nominee vs pivoting to the orange dude. you got this. We saw a lot of tough talk and saber rattling from Trump. Not a whole lot of action. Why not bring them home from Afghanistan if that’s what you wanted? Or N Korea: little rocket man completely undeterred, regardless of who is in the White House. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 14 Posted August 14 20 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: We saw a lot of tough talk and saber rattling from Trump. Not a whole lot of action. Why not bring them home from Afghanistan if that’s what you wanted? Or N Korea: little rocket man completely undeterred, regardless of who is in the White House. Action like those we saw on the Biden withdrawal plan, and the kids on the line blown up? The action of Biden talking about shifting the focus from those soldiers who died on his watch and their grieving parents to his story of the death of his son under hospice care in a hospital in Delaware at 50something? You really love this Biden fellow, huh Frank? 1
The Frankish Reich Posted August 14 Posted August 14 4 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Action like those we saw on the Biden withdrawal plan, and the kids on the line blown up? The action of Biden talking about shifting the focus from those soldiers who died on his watch and their grieving parents to his story of the death of his son under hospice care in a hospital in Delaware at 50something? You really love this Biden fellow, huh Frank? It's really easy to say "I had a plan, and I told the Taliban that I would personally kill them if they messed with it, so it would have worked just as I drew it up" but then never actually executed the plan. That's all. 1
TH3 Posted August 16 Posted August 16 On 8/14/2024 at 2:36 PM, sherpa said: There is simply no defense for the Biden debacle here. None. The Trump thing had an out, which would have been triggered. This was the stupidest, most destructive long term thing that Biden has done, or expressed he wanted done or not done, in a lifelong history of being wrong. Constantly wrong. His lecturing of Reagan as he, (Biden), opposed the strategic defense initiative, which having been funded, now results in the best anti missile defenses in the world comes a distant second, but the man is a complete policy failure robot wearing skin. Third would be his opening days warfare against the energy industry, but that gets little play now that he has changed to the point of secret deals with Venezuela that thankfully never came about. Lol…yellow cake…democratization🤪 GWB and his GOP neocon cronies got us into two wars on falsified evidence and pie in the sky thinking. Cost 100s thousands of lives on both sides and cost US 6 trillion in debt…context tards….context….. and he couldn’t find obl 1
Tommy Callahan Posted August 16 Posted August 16 44 minutes ago, TH3 said: Lol…yellow cake…democratization🤪 GWB and his GOP neocon cronies got us into two wars on falsified evidence and pie in the sky thinking. Cost 100s thousands of lives on both sides and cost US 6 trillion in debt…context tards….context….. and he couldn’t find obl You mean where all the politicians other than Bernie and Ron Paul, voted for all of that, over and over again. And then they used Cindy shehan to run as "anti war". Then had Cindy arrested and expanded every theatre and the illegal drone wars? Binary revisionist history is usually wrong.
TH3 Posted August 16 Posted August 16 5 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: You mean where all the politicians other than Bernie and Ron Paul, voted for all of that, over and over again. And then they used Cindy shehan to run as "anti war". Then had Cindy arrested and expanded every theatre and the illegal drone wars? Binary revisionist history is usually wrong. "Voted for It" hahahaha...CS? Sure ...thats on the scale of two wars. The Wars were the GOP neocons horrific idea and even worse execution...GWB had no idea how to end it so he just left it for the next guy to clean up... AFA voting for it....There was a time when congress backed up the POTUS is a bipartisan way...That ended when a black guy got elected.... 1
Tommy Callahan Posted August 16 Posted August 16 15 minutes ago, TH3 said: "Voted for It" hahahaha...CS? Sure ...thats on the scale of two wars. The Wars were the GOP neocons horrific idea and even worse execution...GWB had no idea how to end it so he just left it for the next guy to clean up... AFA voting for it....There was a time when congress backed up the POTUS is a bipartisan way...That ended when a black guy got elected.... Lol. You brought up the wars that they all supported. Then showed your racial bias with the comment on Obama. Is that bias why you see the war bs with the president before, the. Chirps on them?
sherpa Posted August 16 Posted August 16 2 hours ago, TH3 said: Lol…yellow cake…democratization🤪 GWB and his GOP neocon cronies got us into two wars on falsified evidence and pie in the sky thinking. Cost 100s thousands of lives on both sides and cost US 6 trillion in debt…context tards….context….. and he couldn’t find obl The US did not get us into a war in Afghanistan. Hiding and supporting terrorists responsible for 9-11 did. Maybe you're not familiar with how the intel industry works, but the president does not "provide" intel. The intel community does, and same data and interpretation was presented to both Congressional entities, no matter how much that is denied. They voted, and that is matter of public record. The opportunity to avoid these was presented by the US independently, over a lengthy time frame, and by the UN as a world view entity. Both were rejected. The suggestion that "Bush couldn't find Bin Laden" is ridiculous, and another indication of being unaware of who does what.
Tiberius Posted August 27 Posted August 27 Pretty serious charge against Trump in relation to Afghanistan. True?
Doc Posted August 27 Posted August 27 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Pretty serious charge against Trump in relation to Afghanistan. True? No. The disastrous withdrawal was all on Biden-Harris. 2
Irv Posted August 27 Posted August 27 14 minutes ago, Doc said: No. The disastrous withdrawal was all on Biden-Harris. Harris screwed the pooch on Afghanistan. What a disaster. Totally incompetent. 1
Tiberius Posted August 27 Posted August 27 22 minutes ago, Doc said: No. The disastrous withdrawal was all on Biden-Harris. Biden got us out of that place, yes. Trump did not. The question raised here is did Trump sabotage the efforts? 1
Irv Posted August 27 Posted August 27 9 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Biden got us out of that place, yes. Trump did not. The question raised here is did Trump sabotage the efforts? If it looks bad for the Dems, make something up about Trump. Rinse and repeat.
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