Milanos Milano Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: What's driving this is a VERY vocal, frequently posting minority that want him gone and a number of people who see it unlikely based on comments from the decision makers, actions in sitting him all preseason, and already losing a number of key contributors on that side of the ball. And when those things are brought up, they don't want to hear it and argue back. And around and around we go 😆 The whole point was are we able to substitute slightly less performance to help our team maintain a plethora amount of WRs in a system that uses 5 wide very often. Apparently its forbidden to question the sanctity of all that is gunner holy. Forgive me Taiwan for doubting your supernatural special teamsness. All hail the gunner god. May we sacrifice a buffalo to bring you great fortune this season.
Alphadawg7 Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: The straw man argument is claiming that I, or others are claiming that Jones os a "gunner God," or that "he has to be on at all costs." The straw man argument I pointed that you made, "Again, does not mean there isn’t someone else capable of good gunner play. That’s the point. Some of you have made this decision ONLY Taiwan is capable of it," is something that literally no one is suggesting. That is the definition of a straw-man argument. You were arguing a point that no one was making, as if they were. And I mean no disrespect either. I generally love your posts, and respect your opinions. Fair enough, but there have been plenty of those types of arguments in a multitude of threads over the past few weeks. All good, like I said I meant no disrespect either. 1
letsgoteam Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, RunTheBall said: 29 pages and 25 are devoted to a friggin special teams gunner. CLASSIC TBD the more things change, the more they stay the same 1 1
Alphadawg7 Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, RunTheBall said: 29 pages and 25 are devoted to a friggin special teams gunner. CLASSIC TBD We are clearly bored waiting for the final cut downs. Funny, I am not sure anyone of us discussing this even care that much one way or the other. Just something to discuss to pass the time really as I see it. 1
Pasaluki Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 I mean the two most soul crushing plays in Bills history were ST plays so I think the Bills will always have to overcompensate on ST. 1 1
dave mcbride Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: The straw man argument is claiming that I, or others are claiming that Jones os a "gunner God," or that "he has to be on at all costs." The straw man argument I pointed that you made, "Again, does not mean there isn’t someone else capable of good gunner play. That’s the point. Some of you have made this decision ONLY Taiwan is capable of it," is something that literally no one is suggesting. That is the definition of a straw-man argument. You were arguing a point that no one was making, as if they were. And I mean no disrespect either. I generally love your posts, and respect your opinions. Dean has actually come quite close to saying this, actually. I have no problem with that; strongly held opinions are always fine on a message board. Straight from the horse's mouth (Dean): "Nobody has proved to the coaching staff that they are in the same league. If/when they do, I imagine Taiwan will be gone. So yes, at this point in time, I have to assme he is head and shoulders above some of the others being considered." 1
billybob71 Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, Alphadawg7 said: We are clearly bored waiting for the final cut downs. Funny, I am not sure anyone of us discussing this even care that much one way or the other. Just something to discuss to pass the time really as I see it. McBeane prob intentionally delaying announcement so they can read our posts and laugh at us. 3 2
Mat68 Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Wiz said: So how soon can players that make the 53 be designated to IR? Do they have to wait for the start of the season or as long as they are part of the 53 they can go and we can start resigning players (assuming they don't have to clear waivers)? I believe 4pm is the end of the league day. Any moves to ir would be the following day. Alot of backroom dealing imo. Looking over vets who were cut and any player to claim. Busy night for Beane and the front office I assume. 1
Milanos Milano Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, dave mcbride said: Dean has actually come quite close to saying this, actually. I have no problem with that; strongly held opinions are always fine on a message board. Straight from the horse's mouth (Dean): "Nobody has proved to the coaching staff that they are in the same league. If/when they do, I imagine Taiwan will be gone. So yes, at this point in time, I have to assme he is head and shoulders above some of the others being considered." Which is fine. I have no issues with that at all. If Taiwan is that VALUABLE, then maybe we all just need to recognize his greatness. I never realized Taiwan was so elite that he was irreplaceable. So in my opinion, if that is the case, then he deserves to have his name around with other greats like Tasker.
Alphadawg7 Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, billybob71 said: McBeane prob intentionally delaying announcement so they can read our posts and laugh at us. Hahahaha, eating some wings, drinking some beers while laughing about at this thread 1 1
Mat68 Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, DasNootz said: This is what an Elite Gunner looks like. I heard Chuck Norris looks under his bed Taiwan Jones at night. Jones is so good as a gunner he is allowed to return muffed punts for Tds. 1
buffaloboyinATL Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 I am watching NFLN and ESPN for news on NFL cuts today, and apparently, the only thing to happen all day was Cam Newton being cut. No other news as far as I can tell. 1
HOUSE Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, billybob71 said: McBeane prob intentionally delaying announcement so they can read our posts and laugh at us. He can't Hide Zack Ertz forever, we know he traded 1 4 2
Rocky Landing Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: We are clearly bored waiting for the final cut downs. Funny, I am not sure anyone of us discussing this even care that much one way or the other. Just something to discuss to pass the time really as I see it. I don't even like Taiwan Jones. I wanted him gone up until preseason.
Motorin' Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, The Wiz said: So how soon can players that make the 53 be designated to IR? Do they have to wait for the start of the season or as long as they are part of the 53 they can go and we can start resigning players (assuming they don't have to clear waivers)? I believe it's 9/1. 1 1
Milanos Milano Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, HOUSE said: He can't Hide Zack Ertz forever, we know he traded Would you trade Taiwan Jones for Zach Ertz straight up? 1
Alphadawg7 Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I am watching NFLN and ESPN for news on NFL cuts today, and apparently, the only thing to happen all day was Cam Newton being cut. No other news as far as I can tell. Dude, it was NUTS! I was watching First take this morning which is MUCH more tolerable without Stephen A on it right now and it came across like 10 min into the broadcast as "breaking news". ONE HOUR LATER they still had NOT stopped talking about it as I had the TV running while I was making some breakfast and returning some work emails. I finally had to turn it off, I could not take another minute of it. Came back to it later out of morbid curiosity, and STILL talking about it. Like who cares, geezus, its not even a shock. He threw for like 8 TD's in 15 games last year...like why is this a shock or even a story, he was outplayed all preseason by Mac Jones, and Cam is no where near a fit for BB and McDaniels offense. I can not believe how much talk there is about Cam getting cut...for me it was like DUH, his arm is shot and is not very good anymore...of course he was cut after the Pats used a first round pick on a QB who literally is in the mold of Brady in terms of style of play, physical traits, etc. It was a bigger story when the Pats even brought him back this year...like no one with a right mind saw that coming after how bad he looked last year throwing balls into the dirt with no pressure on him. Edited August 31, 2021 by Alphadawg7 2 1 1
BuffaninSarasota Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: Would you trade Taiwan Jones for Zach Ertz straight up? right about now, yes 1
NI Bills Fan Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: Would you trade Taiwan Jones for Zach Ertz straight up? Yes... until I read this thread. Now I'd be expecting Ertz, a 2nd and next years 1st as well. 7
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