RiotAct Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 8 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: Davis was hobbled during the AFCCG, and couldn't get separation. Beasley had a broken leg and Diggs was dinged up too. Gabe's time will come, and he will produce. heck, he’s already producing 1
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted August 29, 2021 Author Posted August 29, 2021 8 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: Does it really matter what number he’s assigned and you don’t hear McD say #2, 3, or 4. I’m not attempting to be disagreeable, just it kind of doesn’t matter. Sports writers have a tendency to assign numbers to WR’s. Davis is a heck of a good young WR. Beane made an excellent choice in the 4th round. I watched him at UCF as it’s on down here all the time. He knows how to anticipate D Backs and counter on his routes. By #1 I mean the one w/ the most rec yards. Typically the guy opposing defenses scheme the most against and put their best CB on. Allen's preferred target.
Warcodered Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Forward Progress said: He would be the #1 receiver on the 2018 Buffalo Bills. 😄 I mean you could say that all the way down to WR6 on this team. 1
Mr. WEO Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said: I don't even agree with this. He's got areas where he's stronger than Smoke, such as health so far, and high-pointing the ball, but a healthy Smoke to a second-year Davis isn't an upgrade, IMO. Well, we'll see. Obviously there's no way to prove you're wrong, short of watching the season play out, but I sure think you'll be shown wrong there. Smoke myth, like Duke myth, like C Wade myth, like JPL myth...even EJ myth, dies hard here...I know. Smoke is a mediocre WR who put together 2 1000 yard seasons ever. He's a #1 WR when all you got otherwise is Michael Crabtree and Willy Snead or Cole Beasley and Dawson Knox. He was once fast. but even before his latest injury, he was getting chased down by LBs and even Josh stopped looking his way. Brown is a 2 AM, closing time, beer goggles 8/10 "#1 WR" who would not have made the week 1 roster on this team even if "healthy"
HappyDays Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 To take on #1 CBs in this league you need to be either an elite route runner (Stefon Diggs) or an elite physical specimen (DK Metcalf). I don't know that Davis has the profile to ever become that guy. But he has definitely improved this offseason. The play he made from out of our endzone is one he doesn't make last year. He sold a vertical route to create separation, put the brakes on after catching the ball and exploded upfield, then physically bullied the DB to gain additional YAC. Granted it was against a 2nd string secondary but it certainly made me question my assumption that Sanders would be our #2 WR this year. Allen and Davis already have chemistry built. 2
appoo Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 So here the thing, traditionally your X was considered your #1 WR. Why? Because that’s the player who tended to run your deep routes and was your physical specimen. So he’d get the big yards, big TDS and a high yards per catch, and get the big attention. Your Z WR worked off the LOS, your best route runner, the dude you goto to pick up a first down, made life a nightmare for backers, free safeties and anyone between perimeter. Going into the regular season I believe Davis is firmly established has trending towards very good X, while Diggs has established himself as the best Z in the league. I wouldn’t call Davis a #1 because I’m not sure it’s a relevant phrase. But you currently have a WR who do everything you want an NFL X to do 2 1
MrSarcasm Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 2 hours ago, RobbRiddick said: He'll be our Alvin Harper - a very good number 2 who ends up getting paid a huge contract to be a team's number 1 and subsequently disappoints Peerless Price 1
Niagara Dude Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 11 hours ago, Warcodered said: He was injured going into the AFC Championship game. He's definitely developing well but that's hard to say very few actually reach that level. Looks like the second coming of Andre Reed, just like Reed he has good size to make tough inside catches and enough speed to beat you deep if you don't respect him enough in coverage.
Chandler#81 Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Ya Digg? said: Throwing it in reverse?? Everyone knows if you want to be a professional field stretcher you put the clamp on the back and go forward!!! Amateur.... Hey! I’m a do-it-yourself kinda guy!
djp14150 Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 What is a true #1 WR? Andre Reed and Jerry Rice were not the ideal #1 1 has size 2 has strength 3 can jump 4 has speed 5 has quickness 6 has the ability to create separation and beat a jam. 1 1
Protocal69 Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 I'll never forget when he drafted one of the 1st things he said was he was trying to take somebody spot. On one side I thought he was being cocky but my overall feeling was this guy wanted to be great, then I saw the documentary that he filmed with Chad Johnson and I saw his mentality 1st hand and you can tell that Chad respected his game. Last was right after he was drafted he went right to the practice field to get some work in. At that point I was like lets go! 1
costrovs Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 56 minutes ago, appoo said: So here the thing, traditionally your X was considered your #1 WR. Why? Because that’s the player who tended to run your deep routes and was your physical specimen. So he’d get the big yards, big TDS and a high yards per catch, and get the big attention. Your Z WR worked off the LOS, your best route runner, the dude you goto to pick up a first down, made life a nightmare for backers, free safeties and anyone between perimeter. Going into the regular season I believe Davis is firmly established has trending towards very good X, while Diggs has established himself as the best Z in the league. I wouldn’t call Davis a #1 because I’m not sure it’s a relevant phrase. But you currently have a WR who do everything you want an NFL X to do I'm gonna have to agree with this 100%. These are the terms that teams go by, X, Y, Z, TE. Or is Y the TE? I guess it depends on who's who, the scheme, and who the coach is. What about 3 WR or 4 WR sets? Wouldn't Davis be the #4 because he's 4th on the depth chart? But if he's putting up the 2nd/3rd best stats on the team, wouldn't he be #2 or #3 on the depth chart? But if Diggs is the best Z and Davis is the best X, why isn't Davis #1 and Diggs #2? But if Diggs is putting up the best numbers he's the clear X receiver right? lol If X = #1 then Davis is #1 If Z = #2 then Diggs is #2 But Beasley and Sanders fit the Z mild pretty well too, so Beasly and Sanders are #2 also right? So, #1, #2, #2, #2 right? So, our depth chart should read #1 Davis, #2 Diggs, #3 Beasley, #4 Sanders. Right? Or is it #1, #2, #3, #4, based on stats? For the love of god.... Please no one answer any of these questions, they're all rhetorical. It's funny how a #1, 2, 3, 4 can mean something different to different people. I just think it's funny how Davis seems to fit the X receiver mold *cough* #1 *cough*, but yet some people might call him a #4 because he's 4th on the depth chart. lol 1
Protocal69 Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 17 minutes ago, djp14150 said: What is a true #1 WR? Andre Reed and Jerry Rice were not the ideal #1 1 has size 2 has strength 3 can jump 4 has speed 5 has quickness 6 has the ability to create separation and beat a jam. Mine is: 1) Ability to get open 2) Ability to catch the ball with his hands 3) Has some speed that the CB has to respect 4) Strength so he cant be pressed. 5) Body control to make sideline catches 6) Intelligence to able to run option routes and play all 3 spots 1
John from Riverside Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 Its a great problem to have. I am sure everyone remembers when we didnt have ONE legit number 1 WR on this team
LeGOATski Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, costrovs said: I'm gonna have to agree with this 100%. These are the terms that teams go by, X, Y, Z, TE. Or is Y the TE? I guess it depends on who's who, the scheme, and who the coach is. What about 3 WR or 4 WR sets? Wouldn't Davis be the #4 because he's 4th on the depth chart? But if he's putting up the 2nd/3rd best stats on the team, wouldn't he be #2 or #3 on the depth chart? But if Diggs is the best Z and Davis is the best X, why isn't Davis #1 and Diggs #2? But if Diggs is putting up the best numbers he's the clear X receiver right? lol If X = #1 then Davis is #1 If Z = #2 then Diggs is #2 But Beasley and Sanders fit the Z mild pretty well too, so Beasly and Sanders are #2 also right? So, #1, #2, #2, #2 right? So, our depth chart should read #1 Davis, #2 Diggs, #3 Beasley, #4 Sanders. Right? Or is it #1, #2, #3, #4, based on stats? For the love of god.... Please no one answer any of these questions, they're all rhetorical. It's funny how a #1, 2, 3, 4 can mean something different to different people. I just think it's funny how Davis seems to fit the X receiver mold *cough* #1 *cough*, but yet some people might call him a #4 because he's 4th on the depth chart. lol And then you have your "possession" guy, your "slot" guy, your "speed" guy...when any well-rounded WR could be serving any of those rolls on any given play. I don't think Davis has a long way to go. He's a well-rounded receiver and models his game after Larry Fitzgerald. He's going to continue to improve and be one of Josh's most reliable guys for years, IMO. 1
chris heff Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 What a great conversation. Could our fourth receiver be a number one receiver? It seems like just a few years ago we had no receivers…oh wait, never mind.
Mat68 Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 Wr 1. Not with Diggs here. By mid season I think he takes over Wr 2. Sanders is a good transition to him. I think Davis will show alot more down field playmaking ability.
3rdand12 Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 6 hours ago, Ya Digg? said: Throwing it in reverse?? Everyone knows if you want to be a professional field stretcher you put the clamp on the back and go forward!!! Amateur.... Sorry my friend Digg But it is reverse. The lower gearing allows the most amount of torque to be applied. Stump pulling is also done in reverse. Diesel motors preferred 1
Patrick Duffy Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 I don't know about a #1WR. It's possible I guess later in his career. I do think he can be a strong #2 though. In any event, I think Beane got one hell of a WR. I'm sure many didn't expect him to play so well as fast as he did. I mean as a rookie, the kid literally came out the gate making plays last season. He may have trouble with separation at times, but he's got good, reliable hands and also he's always aware where he is on the field which is also important for a WR. That's also impressive as a rookie he already had that type of field awareness and it shows making those mouth dropping tip toe catches on side line in bounds like that. Those type of things kinda makes up for what separation issues he has at times (which I think that will also improve going forward). So with all that said, I guess it would depend if he's still with the Bills after Diggs time is up. If so, by that time it's possible he could compete for the #1WR depending on what WR's are on roster by then.
Billzgobowlin Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 7 hours ago, Rk_Bills86 said: Davis reminds me of Moulds a little bit. Never going to wow you with pure speed, but has everything else and somehow manages to get leverage or behind DBs He actually makes me think of Lofton more than Moulds. I'm not worried about a #1 as we will have Davis and Diggs for a long time.
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