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1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

I enjoyed Lawson and Phillips personality on the team but not really an opening for them here.

I enjoyed Phillips as well, great teammate but the Bills have moved beyond him, especially for the $ involved.  Lawson "won" us one game when he got Leonard Fournette in a huff and kicked out of the game but I am glad to see any remnants of Rex depart.

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10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

March, for LB Bendardrick McKinney and a late round pick swap

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/dolphins-trade-shaq-lawson-to-texans-for-benardrick-mckinney/ar-BB1eA1mF

 

And I can't tell you how good it feels to be able to answer a straightforward football Q

 

So lemme get this right:

 

He leaves a playoff team for an inferior one, signs a 4 year deal worth about 40 million, then gets traded to the downward spiralling Texans, and has now been downgraded to a backup?

 

What a fall from grace.

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Lawson too often plays at or close to replacement-level, which is why his employers keep struggling with reasons to pay him any more than that, it’s that simple.  Dude is just average, and average veterans quickly get priced out.

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Shaq is pretty much what I thought he would be pre draft.  He’s a solid DE who is good against the run and can get some sacks with effort.  He belongs on an NFL roster.  In the right scheme he can be your second DE and he can be a rotational/third DE in others.  A lot of fans had unrealistic expectations for him when he was drafted.  Too many compared him to Mario and thought he’d be that kind of player, which was ridiculous.  He’s a decent player, but 3 for $30M was a contract I was happy we didn’t give him.  

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Posted
Just now, Tom Donahoe, GM said:

Let's say you can sign Roberts for whatever his vet minimum is and lets say we can afford it. Do you do it?


Roberts isn’t going to be released, he’s basically their only pro bowler (maybe Cooks).  

Posted
1 minute ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said:

Let's say you can sign Roberts for whatever his vet minimum is and lets say we can afford it. Do you do it?

 

I think the better question is who does it cost you on cutdown day.

I think I'd be more inclined to roll with a younger buck who might be a better WR in case we lose somebody to injury or quarantine.

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5 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said:

 

So lemme get this right:

 

He leaves a playoff team for an inferior one, signs a 4 year deal worth about 40 million, then gets traded to the downward spiralling Texans, and has now been downgraded to a backup?

 

AND on the trading block/cutting floor if not traded

 

Correct

 

 

5 minutes ago, SydneyBillsFan said:

What a fall from grace.

 

NFL = Not For Long

 

It seems he was a guy who felt entitled when he got drafted, busted his hump in a contract year, then "retired in place" a bit when he got paid.

I was disappointed when we didn't re-sign him, and various people expressed the above view.  In hindsight, they had a point.

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1 minute ago, Coach Tuesday said:


Roberts isn’t going to be released, he’s basically their only pro bowler (maybe Cooks).  

Excellent shot he gets axed.   He is their 7-8th listed WR and is second behind the infamous KeKe Coutee as a returner.

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51 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

Wrote on here a few days ago Texans would likely cut Shaq Lawson and Andre Roberts.  Roberts is old and has virtually no potential trade value.


Other than the money, I assume Roberts figured he’d get a lot more opportunities returning kickoffs with Houston?

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Posted
Just now, Coach Tuesday said:


Is that official team released?  Amazing if true.  They paid him a bunch of guaranteed money.

 

It was OurLads from 2 days ago.

The team chart looks like it hasn't been updated.

CBS was the one that had him listed as injured.

Posted
26 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

Maybe not but Roberts would be welcome back I would think.

I posted this on another thread a month or so ago - the data to me doesn't seem to justify how Roberts provides value for a spot on the roster.

 

"This data is from last October, but I have always been a bit skeptical of Andre Roberts .. he takes them out all the time and on average we were one of the better teams re: starting field position.. but by just a little bit ( a yard or two). I also think that Josh like most QBs struggle more when backed up .. I would be fine if Mackenzie took a knee every time .. and he has the added advantage of being a real WR.

 

https://thecommutesports.com/2020/10/27/nfl-starting-field-position/

 

The chart is pretty interesting so I would recommend taking a look".

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

I think the better question is who does it cost you on cutdown day.

I think I'd be more inclined to roll with a younger buck who might be a better WR in case we lose somebody to injury or quarantine.

 

Stevenson gets exposed to waivers IMO in this case

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