JohnNord Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 On 8/29/2021 at 7:22 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: That was the viewpoint of some here - that he was working his butt off to "get paid" and 2020 Lawson wouldn't have been the same guy as 2019 Lawson. But we don't get to rewind and find out Expand I tend to agree…why else would Miami have moved on from him after one season after making such a big investment? It’s not like they received a ton in return. Also how bad could he have performed in the preseason to be cut from a roster like Houston’s? Not sure if it’s injuries or attitude, but I don’t think NYJ is getting the Shaq Lawson who played well for the Bills in 2020. 1
BarleyNY Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 On 8/29/2021 at 6:30 PM, JohnNord said: Interesting to note that the reporter said he “struggled” in the preseason. My guess is that he’s underperformed since leaving Buffalo. There has to be a reason why Miami signed him to a big deal and traded him for little return one season later. Now Houston traded him for less in return after a months. Expand He underperformed his draft position and then he underperformed the contract he got in FA.
Southern_Bills Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 Houston must be actively trying to lose with their decision making. 1
GunnerBill Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 On 8/29/2021 at 7:52 PM, Southern_Bills said: Houston must be actively trying to lose with their decision making. Expand That franchise is going nowhere until Jack Easterby is removed from a position of power. 2 3
FireChans Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 On 8/28/2021 at 4:58 PM, BuffaloBills1998 said: I wonder if that 19 season was because he was due a new contract and not so much him finally understanding McD’s defensive scheme. Kind of funny that him and Philips chased the money and have had no success since leaving Buffalo Expand Chasing the money is important by these level of players. Jordan Phillips in particular deserved to cash in. 1
MJS Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 On 8/29/2021 at 7:47 PM, JohnNord said: I tend to agree…why else would Miami have moved on from him after one season after making such a big investment? It’s not like they received a ton in return. Also how bad could he have performed in the preseason to be cut from a roster like Houston’s? Not sure if it’s injuries or attitude, but I don’t think NYJ is getting the Shaq Lawson who played well for the Bills in 2020. Expand Miami does tend to move on from guys that they sign to multi-year deals.
FireChans Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 On 8/29/2021 at 7:47 PM, JohnNord said: I tend to agree…why else would Miami have moved on from him after one season after making such a big investment? It’s not like they received a ton in return. Also how bad could he have performed in the preseason to be cut from a roster like Houston’s? Not sure if it’s injuries or attitude, but I don’t think NYJ is getting the Shaq Lawson who played well for the Bills in 2020. Expand Miami is very interesting because they have done a great job transforming a terrible team into a decent one. That 2019 team was terrible, and they somehow won 3 of their last 5 to be just bad. And then 1 year later they were 10-6. Shaq Lawson was a serviceable player that a team with a boat load of cap space can afford to overpay. But Miami no longer has the same boat load and off he went. 2
Rochesterfan Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 On 8/29/2021 at 7:40 PM, Real McNasty said: Dude they are desperate on the line. You could do a lot worse by doing nothing than giving up a 6th rd pick for a former 1st rd pick. Lawson played just as average in Miami last year as he did in his Bills career here. The Jets did fine here considering their circumstances. Expand I agree with that, but Shaq still does not cover the loss of Carl Lawson. Carl is a pass rusher by nature and Shaq is not. Shaq can eat snaps, but he does not fill the role that the Jets need. It is not a bad move for them - it just is not a move that does anything. I honestly believe if they had waited for cuts - they could of picked up the same level of player for nothing. 1
FLFan Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 On 8/29/2021 at 6:56 PM, GunnerBill said: The Jets lost the two guys they signed to start at end for the season - Carl Lawson and Vinny Curry. They have a desperate need at the position. Their other guys are all very inexperienced. They have Zuniga and Huff (albeit Huff a bit of a tweener in Saleh's scheme) who are second year players and a former 49ers backup who has about 4 career starts. Expand Agree. Good move for the Jets, because they are desperate. I would not expect Lawson to provide much more value than the sixth round pick they spent for him. 1
YoloinOhio Posted August 29, 2021 Author Posted August 29, 2021 On 8/29/2021 at 7:47 PM, JohnNord said: I tend to agree…why else would Miami have moved on from him after one season after making such a big investment? It’s not like they received a ton in return. Also how bad could he have performed in the preseason to be cut from a roster like Houston’s? Not sure if it’s injuries or attitude, but I don’t think NYJ is getting the Shaq Lawson who played well for the Bills in 2020. Expand That was my point earlier. I haven’t been following Shaq in Houston but if he can’t start on that team… 1
billsbackto81 Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 On 8/29/2021 at 10:17 PM, FLFan said: Agree. Good move for the Jets, because they are desperate. I would not expect Lawson to provide much more value than the sixth round pick they spent for him. Expand Agree. Players like Shaq once paid play to the level of their surroundings. Being on a winning team during a contract year brought out his best. I don't expect the Jets to do much of anything as far as winning and team moral. Therefore I expect the same for Shaq's level of play.
FireChans Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 On 8/29/2021 at 10:17 PM, FLFan said: Agree. Good move for the Jets, because they are desperate. I would not expect Lawson to provide much more value than the sixth round pick they spent for him. Expand Huh? Our last 6th round pick didn’t even make the roster last year
RunTheBall Posted August 29, 2021 Posted August 29, 2021 If Shaq had the desire to be good I think he could be an above average DE. He just doesn’t care though, he’s playing only to collect the paycheck. I never thought we were going to re-sign him despite McBeane saying blah blah blah we’d love to have him back, whatever. That was all smoke, he wasn’t a process guy and they saw him putting in effort only because it was a contract year. He’s serviceable, he will set the edge against the run, but he’s not a player you need to double team or game plan against.
machine gun kelly Posted August 30, 2021 Posted August 30, 2021 It makes sense. They are desperate and need bodies. Probably a one year prove it deal.
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 30, 2021 Posted August 30, 2021 On 8/27/2021 at 10:23 PM, ndirish1978 said: If they were to cut Roberts, do you think we pick him back up? Expand No I dont think so, we have the rookie speed returner we can develop.
DCOrange Posted August 30, 2021 Posted August 30, 2021 Not sure if it was mentioned yet, but there was a lot of buzz that Shaq might be released in Houston prior to this trade.
HOUSE Posted August 30, 2021 Posted August 30, 2021 Shaq will love the NY Jets, one bad game and the fans will hunt you down & egg your house
FilthyBeast Posted August 30, 2021 Posted August 30, 2021 I'm surprised that a team like Houston wanted to get rid of Lawson before he even played a regular season game for them. Wondering if there are personality/locker room issues going on with him since he left Buffalo.
YoloinOhio Posted August 30, 2021 Author Posted August 30, 2021 On 8/27/2021 at 7:53 PM, SydneyBillsFan said: Wait....when did he get traded to Houston and what for? Expand This guy they also have Houston two 6ths
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