SCBills Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: It has been some break through cases but the % is still fairly low from what I understand. But the extra booster shot that will be available soon should help Will be interesting to see how many players who got the initial vax, will keep getting boosters. I wouldn’t assume everyone who’s currently vaxxed will automatically do that. A hypothetical, not related to your post, but just in general: Lets say everyone on our team is fully vaxxed. Let’s say they test once per week. Let’s say Josh Allen is around a covid positive person on Day 5 of the 7 day testing window. Josh Allen develops mild symptoms and misses a week of practice and a game. That could’ve been avoided by daily testing. Simply vaxxing everyone doesn’t solve that. Edited August 26, 2021 by SCBills 1 1
Success Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 (shakes fists at sky) Why couldn't this have happened during one of the Patriots runs? 2 1
wppete Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Ramza86 said: Delta is piercing through this vax. I suggest they test as much as they did last year. I just don’t get it? Shouldn’t everyone get tested vaxed or unvaxxed as they both pos e a risk of transmitting? I’m confused, someone help please. 1
YoloinOhio Posted August 26, 2021 Author Posted August 26, 2021 Just now, wppete said: I just don’t get it? Shouldn’t everyone get tested vaxed or unvaxxed as they both pos e a risk of transmitting? I’m confused, someone help please. Is this a Cole Beasley burner 2 1 3
wppete Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Is this a Cole Beasley burner Not at all, serous question. It was posed today at work. Isn’t it being transmitted by both vaxxed and unvaxxed? My boss was perplexed and so was the health department. Honest question. Wouldn’t it make sense to test everyone to keep everyone safe and not transmit? Edited August 26, 2021 by wppete 2
SirAndrew Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 24 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think the season will become very complicated if they don't test vaxxed players and staff. We just saw why. You’re correct, I was just looking at from more of a literal prospective commenting on an increase of rules and regulations, as opposed to a scientific outlook. I think many of us had a dream the 2021 could take place with fewer precautions, testing, and the like post vaccine. I understand why, and it is what it is, you just hope your team isn’t impacted greatly. The NFL did a great last season, we’ll see what happens this year.
wppete Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 33 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think the season will become very complicated if they don't test vaxxed players and staff. We just saw why. Agree, I was thinking the same. 1
Warcodered Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, wppete said: Not at all, serous question. It was posed today at work. Isn’t it being transmitted by both vaxxed and unvaxxed? My boss was perplexed and so was the health department. Honest question. I mean the more testing you do the safer you're going to be that's kind of self evident. Even if everyone got vaccinated it'd still be safer testing everyone daily. Edited August 27, 2021 by Warcodered 4
wppete Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: I mean the more testing you do the safer your going to be that's kind of self evident. I mean even if everyone got vaccinated it'd still be safer testing everyone daily. That definitely seems to be the logical thing to do.
Process Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 Either mandate vaccines and don't test at all, or test both vaxed and unvaxed every single day. There shouldn't be an in between. 2 1
Warcodered Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, wppete said: That definitely seems to be the logical thing to do. At this point definitely but I do get the idea of incentivizing vaccinations with relaxed protocols....it just didn't work well enough.
WotAGuy Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, wppete said: That definitely seems to be the logical thing to do. Then that eliminates it as an option 🤣 Edited August 26, 2021 by WotAGuy 3
Patrick Duffy Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 I can see this quickly changing considering how much more contiguous the Delta is. Likely end up having to test everyone everyday again like last season. Frustrating situation 1 1
The Wiz Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Wouldn't going to everyday testing for vaxxed personnel be a sign their protocols are a failure? NFL hates being wrong. Actually they love being wrong. Otherwise how would Riveron have been employed for soo long. 1 2
wppete Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 45 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That is what beasely is asking for. He wants the same for both sides. He’s not wrong at this point. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 51 minutes ago, wppete said: He’s not wrong at this point. He is wrong about a lot, and no point in rehashing - evvybuddy already got out their views in several threads and not gonna agree. But Beasley does have valid points that unvaccinated players can not be adequately protected from infection by Delta with vaccinated players and staff tested once every 14 days and not required to mask indoors, and it sounds like the NFL has taken a first step towards changing that. 1 1
Doc Brown Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, wppete said: Not at all, serous question. It was posed today at work. Isn’t it being transmitted by both vaxxed and unvaxxed? My boss was perplexed and so was the health department. Honest question. Wouldn’t it make sense to test everyone to keep everyone safe and not transmit? The NFL used not getting tested every day as an incentive for players to get vaccinated. I don't see how they go back on that now as there's going to be a lot of ticked off players. 1
MJS Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 It needs to happen. It's two weeks right now, right? A player could contract COVID, have mild symptoms, and completely recover within two weeks, all between tests. The Titans are like 97% vaccinated, right? And they just had an outbreak because, as they surmise, vaccinated players went out for dinner before a game. Unfortunately, it just seems like the smartest thing to do is to go back to last year's protocols for everyone, just to be safe. (I tried to keep this completely football related and I am not bashing anyone or anything related to COVID. Hope my comment is not out of line. Despite the constant warnings from mods on the board, I'm still fuzzy on what's allowed to say and what's not. That's why I usually do not comment on COVID related threads at all, recently) 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: The NFL used not getting tested every day as an incentive for players to get vaccinated. I don't see how they go back on that now as there's going to be a lot of ticked off players. Things have changed. I hope the NFL tries to do the right thing instead of worrying about players being unhappy. Pandemics just aren't happy things. Nobody is happy about it.
HalftimeAdjustment Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, MJS said: Things have changed. I hope the NFL tries to do the right thing instead of worrying about players being unhappy. Pandemics just aren't happy things. Nobody is happy about it. This, exactly. The situation changed so the rules have to change. Very frequent testing for all provides the highest safety margin. The vaccinated are less likely to transmit it, but not so much less likely that it is worth not testing them more often than 1/week. The testing is uncomfortable but let's face it these guys can deal with a lot of uncomfortable things for their job.
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