McD's Presser

[ColoradoBills]

I don't envy Beane, McDermott and the organization and how they have to tightrope this whole situation.

As for the proposed avenue of having a more self imposed "lock down" that is a tough call.

These are men not petulant children and strict actions could cause unwanted consequences.

That being said if nothing changes everyone can see what other consequences are possible.

 

Maybe the locker room/team leaders need to determine that it might be time that everyone's voices are heard "in private" within the team.

If I was part of that player leadership team I might think it's time for a "players only" meeting to get this talked out in the open amongst the team

without management and media.  

 

Whatever is decided going forward as long as it doesn't create a permanent riff would be OK with me. 

[DCOrange]

I'd be impressed if McBeane cut Beasley loose, but I definitely don't expect that to happen. If we were in the middle of a rebuild, maybe, but I think they know how close we are and want to just keep the ship together as long as possible to try to win it all.

[Patrick Duffy]

4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Again, Cole made a very public issue on twitter that he would not follow the rules and that he didn't care about money, he would play for free if he had to

He did say that obviously. But I have always wondered if he was in one of those moods and was venting and said things you don't mean? I know I have done it before

Edited August 26, 2021 by Sheneneh Jenkins

[Captain Caveman]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

The math was done yesterday in the "Bills may be one of the lowest teams" thread.

 

The flea in the above ointment is that the unvaccinated players may be unevenly distributed between likely starters, and fringe guys.

So currently 16 unvaccinated players out of 80 if we're ~80% vaccinated per Beane's press conference yesterday. (1-0.8) * 80 = 16

 

Question is, are those all guys who make the 53?  If we are, then we're (53-16)/53*100 = 69.8% after the cut.

 

 

In the final % wouldn't / shouldn't you count practice squad player though, since they're in the building every day?  And I would assume (as bubble players) they may be 100% or close to it.

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

 

 

 

sorry if already posted 

[NickelCity]

3 minutes ago, Billever76 said:

Sure punish the 80% of players who did the right thing for not only their teams but society as a whole..

 

Yep, it does punish people who did the right thing. Not sure how else to keep our resident contrarians from tanking the season, though. 

[JGMcD2]

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

Is having a player spout off on social media about a very controversial subject a part of what we built here?

Players talk about controversial subjects on social media all of the time… there’s a little thing called Freedom of Speech? 
 

Cole Beasley expressing his opinion on Twitter is no different than you or I doing the same thing. I didn’t realize that Freedom of Speech dissolved when you became a professional football player.

 

I would say it would be pretty anti-McDermott to not allow his players to express their opinions… so yeah in a sense it’s exactly what’s been built here. 
 

[TEC]

2 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

Players talk about controversial subjects on social media all of the time… there’s a little thing called Freedom of Speech? 
 

Cole Beasley expressing his opinion on Twitter is no different than you or I doing the same thing. I didn’t realize that Freedom of Speech dissolved when you became a professional football player.

 

I would say it would be pretty anti-McDermott to not allow his players to express their opinions… so yeah in a sense it’s exactly what’s been built here. 
 

 

Freedom of speech/choice does not mean freedom from consequence. 

 

Edited August 26, 2021 by TEC

[JGMcD2]

2 minutes ago, TEC said:

 

Freedom of speech/choice does not mean freedom from consequence. 

 

Irrelevant to the question that was posed to me and has next to nothing to do with my response other than the fact that you regurgitated “Freedom of Speech.” 
 

Beasley expressing his opinions should not result in consequences… Beasley not following the rules should. 
 

Beasley expressing his opinions is not Beasley failing to follow the rules. 

Edited August 26, 2021 by JGMcD2

[YoloinOhio]

 

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5 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

I'd be impressed if McBeane cut Beasley loose, but I definitely don't expect that to happen. If we were in the middle of a rebuild, maybe, but I think they know how close we are and want to just keep the ship together as long as possible to try to win it all.

 

I agree w/ the bolded.  And I say this as someone who last season had Cole Beasley as their favorite guy on the team.  

 

But his behavior is not acceptable for most workplaces.  It is NOT that getting vaxxed isn't a private decision - it is.  It's the way he has conducted himself on the issue.  At this point, it is TOO disruptive, and if it continues, his value to the team as a player will be offset by the distraction he creates, and by potential missed time throughout the season.

 

That doesn't mean you cut everyone who isn't vaxxed, but players need to take this seriously regardless of their private decisions.  I also think McKenzie's flip attitude about it is very borderline.  They need to go BB on these guys. This ship needs to be tighter.

 

[Doc Brown]

5 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

Players talk about controversial subjects on social media all of the time… there’s a little thing called Freedom of Speech? 
 

Cole Beasley expressing his opinion on Twitter is no different than you or I doing the same thing. I didn’t realize that Freedom of Speech dissolved when you became a professional football player.

 

I would say it would be pretty anti-McDermott to not allow his players to express their opinions… so yeah in a sense it’s exactly what’s been built here. 
 

All Beasley's doing with his posts is creating an unnecessary team distraction.  It's selfish.  Keep it in house.  It reminds me of when Tomlin said stay off of social media while Antonio Brown was videotaping it on facebook live in the locker room or whatever.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

3 hours ago, wjag said:

Shame shame shame on all you reporters asking the same question over and over again. You had 15 minutes to get some football questions in and you chose to flog the covid horse.  

 

You should see the reporters after a hurricane... they rarely ask any questions about the tourist season... so many repeat questions about the hurricane. They always have the opportunity to ask about tourist season, but noooooo

[JGMcD2]

Just now, Doc Brown said:

All Beasley's doing with his posts is creating an unnecessary team distraction.  It's selfish.  Keep it in house.  It reminds me of when Tomlin said stay off of social media while Antonio Brown was videotaping it on facebook live in the locker room or whatever.

Entirely different.
 

Brown was posting a private team meeting on social media. Beasley is expressing his personal views on social media. 
 

Only consistencies are that they’re using social media and play WR in the NFL. 

[machine gun kelly]

Mods I feel you’re pain trying to contain this one.  God bless and maybe we can learn from Sal and ask a football question.  Think about how Sal just went to #1 on McD’slist moving forward as he was looking for a lifeline.

 

after you ask th he same question 15 different ways, he just wanted a football question.

[machine gun kelly]

Or a smart interviewer feeling the room.

[LeGOATski]

2 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

Mods I feel you’re pain trying to contain this one.  God bless and maybe we can learn from Sal and ask a football question.  Think about how Sal just went to #1 on McD’slist moving forward as he was looking for a lifeline.

 

after you ask th he same question 15 different ways, he just wanted a football question.

I was relieved too. Like, as a fan, I wanted to know some football stuff. I don't think Sal was just trying to gain McDermott's good graces, I think he was speaking for the football fan in himself and all of us.

Edited August 26, 2021 by LeGOATski

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2 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

Mods I feel you’re pain trying to contain this one.  God bless and maybe we can learn from Sal and ask a football question.  Think about how Sal just went to #1 on McD’slist moving forward as he was looking for a lifeline.

 

after you ask th he same question 15 different ways, he just wanted a football question.

 

I know what you're saying, but this topic shouldn't be off limits right now. It is THE biggest issue as we go into a season filled w/ promise.  I don't see why we should be all "Ssssshhhhhh" about it.  I get that discussions need to stay centered on football, but I think they are in the context of this thread.

 

[3rdand12]

57 minutes ago, WhoTom said:

 

Agreed. All the more reason for Cole to mask up. He's being fined for not wearing a mask.

 

 

It's really that simple. Follow the protocol and stf up Cole. 

[TEC]

13 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

Irrelevant to the question that was posed to me and has next to nothing to do with my response other than the fact that you regurgitated “Freedom of Speech.” 
 

Beasley expressing his opinions should not result in consequences… Beasley not following the rules should. 
 

Beasley expressing his opinions is not Beasley failing to follow the rules. 

 

People get canned every day for expressing their opinion on a variety of topics. Beasley could be no different. 

Cole is not naive. I'm sure he's recognized the gravity of choosing this hill to die on.  

 

Edited August 26, 2021 by TEC