Malazan Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, TroutDog said: Very frustrating. Totally understand the D needing to prepare for game-like experiences and push like they’re in a game but this is crazy. Injuries happen. The Jets have lost 2 of their starting front 7 and a 3rd who has a good rotational edge rusher. Ravens lost a starting linebacker for the year. So far, we have lost Phillips for awhile? And now our 5th receiver/Return man...maybe? 1
chaccof Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, TroutDog said: Very frustrating. Totally understand the D needing to prepare for game-like experiences and push like they’re in a game but this is crazy. This makes me wonder about some of the starters who haven't played in a pre-season game yet - specifically Josh Allen. If he doesn't play in preseason then that means his first real game like hit will come in the season opener? I'm sure no one is hitting him in practice. That worries me a little TBH....
billsbackto81 Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 Love McKenzie but we'll be fine. Most kick offs are touchbacks anyway and Micah can field and fair catch punts until Isaiah gets back. He will definitely be missed on jet sweeps and trick plays.
Malazan Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 Just now, chaccof said: This makes me wonder about some of the starters who haven't played in a pre-season game yet - specifically Josh Allen. If he doesn't play in preseason then that means his first real game like hit will come in the season opener? I'm sure no one is hitting him in practice. That worries me a little TBH.... On the list of things to worry about that falls somewhere below Giant Meteor 2021 1 2 1 2
TroutDog Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Injuries happen. The Jets have lost 2 of their starting front 7 and a 3rd who has a good rotational edge rusher. Ravens lost a starting linebacker for the year. So far, we have lost Phillips for awhile? And now our 5th receiver/Return man...maybe? It’s the quantity. The Bills have been lucky in this department for a number of years. Also, I do not discount McKenzie’s importance as you appear to do. One injury to Beasley and he is next in line. Depth is important to me. As for the Jets, I am not worried about them, I am worried about the Bills.
YoloinOhio Posted August 24, 2021 Author Posted August 24, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Love McKenzie but we'll be fine. Most kick offs are touchbacks anyway and Micah can field and fair catch punts until Isaiah gets back. He will definitely be missed on jet sweeps and trick plays. Don’t be surprised to see E Sanders used here, with or without McKenzie available Edited August 24, 2021 by YoloinOhio
TroutDog Posted August 25, 2021 Posted August 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, chaccof said: This makes me wonder about some of the starters who haven't played in a pre-season game yet - specifically Josh Allen. If he doesn't play in preseason then that means his first real game like hit will come in the season opener? I'm sure no one is hitting him in practice. That worries me a little TBH.... I’m not worried about that, to be honest. Overall, I appreciate how this regime handles minor injuries at the beginning of the year and, actually, during the season: they play the long game. Injuries in practice I disdain, though…even if it was a misguided tackle.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted August 25, 2021 Posted August 25, 2021 Thinking Isaiah can be more than a 40-50 touches guy for the season is probably foolish on my part. He is just small and his body can’t withstand the beating on a consistent basis.
Big Turk Posted August 25, 2021 Posted August 25, 2021 27 minutes ago, TroutDog said: It’s the quantity. The Bills have been lucky in this department for a number of years. Also, I do not discount McKenzie’s importance as you appear to do. One injury to Beasley and he is next in line. Depth is important to me. As for the Jets, I am not worried about them, I am worried about the Bills. It isn't luck. The Bills probably do more in regards to injury prevention than any other team in the NFL and are on the cutting edge of sports science related to that. At some point when you keep being in the top 5 every year for least man games lost it stops being luck and starts being what they are doing to prevent the injuries from occurring.
TroutDog Posted August 25, 2021 Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Big Turk said: It isn't luck. The Bills probably do more in regards to injury prevention than any other team in the NFL and are on the cutting edge of sports science related to that. At some point when you keep being in the top 5 every year for least man games lost it stops being luck and starts being what they are doing to prevent the injuries from occurring. Agreed…I clearly should have used a different word (although I do think a small degree of luck is involved; I say this as a guy who tore my ACL and MCL walking my dogs). Your point was what I was trying to make in this thread. Apologies for poor word choices. As evidenced here: Edited August 25, 2021 by TroutDog
billybrew1 Posted August 25, 2021 Posted August 25, 2021 Whyte is a kick returner..... Just don't know how good or bad he is? But he has NFL experience..... Maybe he'll get revenge vs. Pittsburgh and get a long return? Injuries can really screw any team any time. The Bills work very hard to be in excellent shape to avoid them but.... What are you going to do? ***** happens.... Go Bills!
Rochesterfan Posted August 25, 2021 Posted August 25, 2021 2 hours ago, letsgoteam said: I wasn't able to listen to WGR this evening, did Sal talk to the guys and give his take on what he thinks McKenzie's severity is? He did - just had no specifics. Said Poyer held up, but McKenzie ran into him, but it was like McKenzie hit a brick wall and he went down. Sal did not think Poyer did anything as he let up as much as he could - just something that happens. Sal said McKenzie laid there for several minutes and then the trainers took him off the field and He seemed to be in obvious pain in the shoulder region, but it sounded like Sal said he was moving it, but there was discomfort. Need to wait on the MRI - they got nothing in practice and Beane provided no real update other than he was injured. 1
Malazan Posted August 25, 2021 Posted August 25, 2021 1 hour ago, TroutDog said: It’s the quantity. The Bills have been lucky in this department for a number of years. Also, I do not discount McKenzie’s importance as you appear to do. One injury to Beasley and he is next in line. Depth is important to me. As for the Jets, I am not worried about them, I am worried about the Bills. What's the average of practices missed by players during camp? How does that number compare to this year?
purple haze Posted August 25, 2021 Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, chaccof said: This makes me wonder about some of the starters who haven't played in a pre-season game yet - specifically Josh Allen. If he doesn't play in preseason then that means his first real game like hit will come in the season opener? I'm sure no one is hitting him in practice. That worries me a little TBH.... Same thing happened last season and he was fine when the real games started. Edited August 25, 2021 by purple haze
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 25, 2021 Posted August 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Motorin' said: Can Poyer and Hyde just take it out on the other team for the rest of camp? Jesus. Brings back memories of JP Losman getting a broken leg in training camp on hit, think it may have even been out of bounds and also think it was by a safety?? Was it Troy Vincent
YoloinOhio Posted August 25, 2021 Author Posted August 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Brings back memories of JP Losman getting a broken leg in training camp on hit, think it may have even been out of bounds and also think it was by a safety?? Was it Troy Vincent By all accounts, poyer didn’t actually hit him. McKenzie ran into him, he was not in the spot I guess he anticipated after he caught the ball and turned. It was accidental contact 1
PrimeTime101 Posted August 25, 2021 Posted August 25, 2021 Here is stevensons chance to shine. I would put him at slot WR early just to see what he can do.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 25, 2021 Posted August 25, 2021 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: If he's out for a few weeks that opens the door for Stevenson to make the roster and possibly Breida to be active on game days. Daboll loves those end arounds too much to leave them out of the playbook. It sucks for McKenzie but we can manage without him if we need to. How so on Stevenson? If we want McKenzie back, we can't IR him before the final roster cutdowns. He has to make the initial 53, or he's out for the season. Also, last we heard, Stevenson had a foot or ankle injury. He was reported to be in civvies today and not practicing. 14 minutes ago, scuba guy said: I am sure he is hitting his girlfriend does that count No 9 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Here is stevensons chance to shine. I would put him at slot WR early just to see what he can do. Hello, left Bears game for xrays, returned in walking boot, didn't practice Sun. or today?
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 25, 2021 Posted August 25, 2021 2 hours ago, chaccof said: This makes me wonder about some of the starters who haven't played in a pre-season game yet - specifically Josh Allen. If he doesn't play in preseason then that means his first real game like hit will come in the season opener? I'm sure no one is hitting him in practice. That worries me a little TBH.... It's an interesting question. Maybe some of our former football players can comment. I have the impression that tolerance for contact is a learned response, but whether it has to be re-learned every season or whether it carries over, I'm not clear.
Bangarang Posted August 25, 2021 Posted August 25, 2021 2 hours ago, chaccof said: This makes me wonder about some of the starters who haven't played in a pre-season game yet - specifically Josh Allen. If he doesn't play in preseason then that means his first real game like hit will come in the season opener? I'm sure no one is hitting him in practice. That worries me a little TBH.... There were no preseason games last year 1
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