die hard bills fan Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32050570/nfl-quarterback-council-2021-ranking-top-10-qbs-arm-strength-accuracy-decision-making-rushing-ability-more Really? 1 2
NickelCity Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 I'll admit, I'm surprised by that. I think Allen's arm is noticably stronger.
Malazan Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 ok. Rearranging my vacation plans now because of this. 5 1
wppete Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 Hilarious haters gonna hate. Josh Allen clearly has the Strongest Arm to ever play football!! 1 1
butch rolle Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, die hard bills fan said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32050570/nfl-quarterback-council-2021-ranking-top-10-qbs-arm-strength-accuracy-decision-making-rushing-ability-more Really? "Pass velocity and the amount of zip a QB can put on a pass were factors in the ranking, as was the ability to hit the deep ball" Based on this criteria, I find it hard to argue with their rankings. If it were velocity and zip only, measured empirically by radar, I would say Allen all day. When you factor in their body of work connecting on deep balls, even Josh has admitted he has a lot of work to do. 4 1
Bimmer323i Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 16 minutes ago, NickelCity said: I'll admit, I'm surprised by that. I think Allen's arm is noticably stronger. Yea I was surprised by that also… I think Allen def has a stronger arm than Mahomes it’s just some people can’t get off of Mahomes n##s.
Warcodered Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 I mean it really doesn't matter the two are 1 and 2 and right next to each other in that category. 1
Bimmer323i Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, wppete said: Hilarious haters gonna hate. Josh Allen clearly has the Strongest Arm to ever play football!! Man I hope we crush Kansas City this year when we play…. I hate kc more than I do the pats at this point…. Us beating kc outta curb all the Mahomes talk for a minute 3
Buffalo Junction Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 23 minutes ago, butch rolle said: "Pass velocity and the amount of zip a QB can put on a pass were factors in the ranking, as was the ability to hit the deep ball" Based on this criteria, I find it hard to argue with their rankings. If it were velocity and zip only, measured empirically by radar, I would say Allen all day. When you factor in their body of work connecting on deep balls, even Josh has admitted he has a lot of work to do. It’s easier to connect on those when you have a receiver who can outrun everyone to open green and a TE who can win contested catches like no other. The combination creates space on its own. That said, we’ll see if Allen makes another developmental leap.
fridge Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 OP, please read this: https://www.thepunctuationguide.com/ellipses.html 1
billybrew1 Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 35 minutes ago, Bimmer323i said: Man I hope we crush Kansas City this year when we play…. I hate kc more than I do the pats at this point…. Us beating kc outta curb all the Mahomes talk for a minute More than New England? Youre crazy. I hope we beat the Pats thirty times in a row by thirty. Then, maybe then, the hate will let up. I got nothin' against the chefs. They're f-fen good. Naturally, Idont like them, but hating them isn't there yet for me. I wonder if we can beat them this year? We're going to have to be healthy, #1. Number two,Josh has to play his ass off and no one can let him down. #3 gotta move Mahomes off his spot and make him nervous. We gotta pressure!. #4 gotta cover the twins for KC. We failed miserably at this last game. It was shameful. #5 gotta win the STs battle. Hard to do but Then we win.... Go Bills! 1
BigAl2526 Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 Mina Kimes: "I'm surprised that Allen didn't end up No. 1 here. Sure, Mahomes throws the prettier deep ball, but if we're just assessing arm strength, Allen's cannon is indisputable." 4
butch rolle Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said: Mina Kimes: "I'm surprised that Allen didn't end up No. 1 here. Sure, Mahomes throws the prettier deep ball, but if we're just assessing arm strength, Allen's cannon is indisputable." But they are which is exactly why they have him behind Mahomes.
BigAl2526 Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, butch rolle said: But they are which is exactly why they have him behind Mahomes. Well, this ranking is an ESPN thing, and Mina Kimes, whom I quoted is an ESPN personality. I thought it would be OK to post her difference of opinion with their consensus choice.
die hard bills fan Posted August 24, 2021 Author Posted August 24, 2021 1 hour ago, butch rolle said: "Pass velocity and the amount of zip a QB can put on a pass were factors in the ranking, as was the ability to hit the deep ball" Based on this criteria, I find it hard to argue with their rankings. If it were velocity and zip only, measured empirically by radar, I would say Allen all day. When you factor in their body of work connecting on deep balls, even Josh has admitted he has a lot of work to do. 52 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said: It’s easier to connect on those when you have a receiver who can outrun everyone to open green and a TE who can win contested catches like no other. The combination creates space on its own. That said, we’ll see if Allen makes another developmental leap. Totally Agree, and according to this guy's look at Next Gen Stats Mahomes isn't even in his top 10 deep passers of 2020. https://www.nfl.com/news/next-gen-stats-top-10-deep-passers-of-2020-aaron-rodgers-lands-at-no-4 1
Doc Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 Arm strength is arm strength. Deep ball accuracy is accuracy or deep ball accuracy, i.e. different categories. 2
NewEra Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 This is already in another thread, but it wouldn’t be a bills message board without a different thread that consists of whining and crying about it 54 minutes ago, billybrew1 said: More than New England? Youre crazy. I hope we beat the Pats thirty times in a row by thirty. Then, maybe then, the hate will let up. I got nothin' against the chefs. They're f-fen good. Naturally, Idont like them, but hating them isn't there yet for me. I wonder if we can beat them this year? We're going to have to be healthy, #1. Number two,Josh has to play his ass off and no one can let him down. #3 gotta move Mahomes off his spot and make him nervous. We gotta pressure!. #4 gotta cover the twins for KC. We failed miserably at this last game. It was shameful. #5 gotta win the STs battle. Hard to do but Then we win.... Go Bills! Beating KC is the pinnacle of our season now. This isn’t pre 2019 anymore. Times change. We are superior to NE. Set your sights higher
1ManRaid Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 I'm going to have a boulder of salt for any claim of someone having a stronger arm than the literal strongest arm ever tested coming out of college.
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