Don Otreply Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Da webster guy said: Thats great, but he just dropped two passes in live action. That's a flag to me. Could be an anomaly, and every receiver drops passes, but two in one game is concerning. And they arent Josh bullets either. A flag to you or I is nowhere as important as what his HC, OC or QB are thinking about the guy, as you said all receivers drop passes, hell Diggs has dropped two passes in the same game himself, There is nothing to be getting worked up about over a preseason practice session. Go Bills!!! 1
BobbyC81 Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 6 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Difference is Kummerow actually makes the play, Duke more often doesn't. Touchdown was nice but the toe tapping catch Kummerow made was great. Meanwhile as Duke Williams was falling down it was an easy interception the Bear CB had from Webb had he been able to hold onto the ball, that was Duke's fault. Duke also should have held onto that TD throw in the Texans playoff game, he holds onto that we probably win. The great Duke experiment in Buffalo is over, I dont see how he sticks. Duke has dropped at least 3 passes this preseason. I’d be surprised if he remains. 1
Ralonzo Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 7 hours ago, dneveu said: mostly the journeymen are continually pushed out by new 20-22 year old kids who have draft pedigree and or some super plus traits (size, speed, hands, polish, etc). I knew it was a plus trait! 1 4 1
The Wiz Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 10 hours ago, Doc Brown said: I get the touchdown endearing him to Bills fan because Josh threw that football so hard that it could go through a car wash and not get wet. From what's been reported in practice, Kumerow has separated himself from the other WR's fighting for that 6th spot. I get the Duke Williams comparison but he doesn't play special teams. If we don't want to risk losing Stevenson than we can simply IR him before the final cut downs. If not then we can carry seven WR's if need be. I have never heard this expression and now I am mad because I love it and will probably never be able to use it (unless of course it's during a Game Day Thread). 1
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 Despite being for the 6th WR, this is one of the most intriguing battles battles of camp for me. I'll admit it, (and I hate to) I'm really feeding into the Kumerow hype in the same way I did for Chris Hogan who ended up having a VERY solid career. A perpetual camp stud who just needed a chance. It's a great storyline and I hope he makes the roster. If I was a betting man then I would put my chips on Kumerow. I just never felt the same about Duke Williams for some reason. Cheers 🍺 5 hours ago, Buftex said: You can't keep everyone. McKenzie seems to be making a strong case for himself to be a bigger part of the offense. However, he is still not showing his hands to be reliable on kick receiving. Stevenson is a 2021 draft-pick...he looks to be a legit return threat, and has shown some receiving ability as well. Everyone loves Kumerow, but he may be the odd man out, if they only keep six. I didn't realize Kumerow was 29 already...I say, see if Green Bay will give you a 4th or 5th rounder for him... This is an overlooked point. McKenzie taking over the returner role would've been big for JK as it might free up an additional roster spot. I hope he gets it together for the last 2 preseason games. He's truly electrifying in the open field. 1
Buftex Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Despite being for the 6th WR, this is one of the most intriguing battles battles of camp for me. I'll admit it, (and I hate to) I'm really feeding into the Kumerow hype in the same way I did for Chris Hogan who ended up having a VERY solid career. A perpetual camp stud who just needed a chance. It's a great storyline and I hope he makes the roster. If I was a betting man then I would put my chips on Kumerow. I just never felt the same about Duke Williams for some reason. Cheers 🍺 So, if Diggs, Beasley, Sanders and Gabriel are all locks, you can only pick 2 of these three: McKenzie, Kumerow, Stevenson. Which two do you choose?
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Buftex said: So, if Diggs, Beasley, Sanders and Gabriel are all locks, you can only pick 2 of these three: McKenzie, Kumerow, Stevenson. Which two do you choose? McKenzie is an absolute lock so I'll take him out of the equation. I love Stevenson's athletiscm and he's a homegrown draft pick so he has that going for him. I don't think the coaches are going to take the chance of McKenzie potentially losing a game on a dropped punt and that makes Stevenson all the more valuable. Kumerow was a guy living purely on hype and (Aaron Rodgers) word of mouth, but now he's excelling in the off-season. He's also got the ST thing going for him along w/ great RedZone potential. As was said before, he's older than I originally thought so that could be a deal breaker. My heart says Kumerow, but my brain says Stevenson. I'm gonna go w/ my heart. Just because. Edited August 23, 2021 by ChronicAndKnuckles 1
Mat68 Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 Kumerow is a JAG. Now he is one that plays teams and can do a little bit of everything. He seems like a glue guy similar to Zimmer on defense. For a championship team those types are important. Maybe on madden or fantasy Kumerow doesnt make sense on paper but come Nov or Dec and Buffalo is down a wr or 2 I think he is a guy that will do whats needed. 1
The Jokeman Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 1 hour ago, dneveu said: Could also be looked at like Jones role is secure. Yeah it's tough to say for sure.
marky Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 McKenzie wouldn't surprise me. He dropped a punt in the pregame. He dropped a punt in the game. Then he got targeted a lot. McD does that right before he moves someone, like a highlight tape for other teams. Sammy. Dareus. Zay Jones. Next up is Knox if he keeps dropping too. One job. Catch the ball. 1
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 16 hours ago, beavis said: McKenzie wouldn't surprise me. He dropped a punt in the pregame. He dropped a punt in the game. Then he got targeted a lot. McD does that right before he moves someone, like a highlight tape for other teams. Sammy. Dareus. Zay Jones. Next up is Knox if he keeps dropping too. One job. Catch the ball. I would be shocked. I think he had 6 TDs last year, and is a bit of a locker room leader. He's also the best option beyond this year if they move on from bease in 2022.
letsgoteam Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 2 hours ago, dneveu said: I would be shocked. I think he had 6 TDs last year, and is a bit of a locker room leader. He's also the best option beyond this year if they move on from bease in 2022. I think McK is a lock too.
Kelly the Dog Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 It’s funny, and sad, that the WR glut became a problem in one day. We had 10-11. We lost 5 in one day. McKenzie got hurt although we don’t know extent. Duke and Lance released. Cole and Gabriel sent home. We don’t want to play Diggs who just returned or Sanders. Hodgins and Stevenson are out. That leaves Kumerow, Gentry, Brandon Powell and something named Tre Miller for Saturday? Who might I be forgetting? 1
Don Otreply Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 Not much of a glut right now…, Past time to buckle down for these players, season is about yo start, this is no time to be lax, Go Bills!!!
NewEra Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 7:54 AM, SCBills said: Sanders and Beasley are in their 30’s, both still excellent WR’s, but we throw the ball a ton and I’d like to think our staff paid attention to what happened in the Playoffs last year with injuries. Factor in a 17 game season, and I think it makes sense to carry 7. Kumerow is a guy we know Josh trusts, and can come in for red zone packages. Stevenson is a high potential guy that we’ll lose to waivers. You can’t teach speed, and he can absolutely fly. We got him as a steal in a loaded WR draft. Maybe he only plays sparingly this year, but that’s 3 more years of a rookie contract speed threat. The spot can come from Tight End. Carry Knox and Hollister, with Gilliam as FB/TE3. I agree and I hope that we keep 7 WRs, but I don’t think that’s going to happen unless the cut Taiwan, which I unfortunately don’t see happening. But there’s still hope! Losing Stevenson would 👎🏻 Imo. He’s a player worth spending some time and developing. Dude can fly. Wasn’t it 4th and 10 with a minute left when Stevenson beat the Detroit cb for the gw catch? Keep him 1
HardyBoy Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 9:49 AM, Jobot said: Objectively, we're talking about the 6th receiver on the team. How many balls this year will be thrown to the #6 receiver? Probably not too many, and whoever this player is, will probably not be the sole difference to a single W or L this upcoming season. For that reason... you keep whoever you think has the higher potential, and you live with seeing Kumorow in a different uniform. He would come in a sub for whoever he backs up for a certain number of snaps a game. He’d be the primary receiver on plays where he is in the game and the play call calls for that receiver to be the primary option. I don’t think they would call different plays because he was in the game, so he’ll get his shot. Gotta remember the other players are not at the same position and they aren’t going to not let his routes be primary when he subs in ever, otherwise they would know he’s basically in as a decoy while Diggs or Davis catch a breather in their outside receiver position. That said they’ll play different formations to get those guys breathers too, so probably will be more of a matchup thing when he gets in, but he will play and he won’t be hidden as a non option/last option every play.
ColoradoBills Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: It’s funny, and sad, that the WR glut became a problem in one day. We had 10-11. We lost 5 in one day. McKenzie got hurt although we don’t know extent. Duke and Lance released. Cole and Gabriel sent home. We don’t want to play Diggs who just returned or Sanders. Hodgins and Stevenson are out. That leaves Kumerow, Gentry, Brandon Powell and something named Tre Miller for Saturday? Who might I be forgetting? Just need Kumerow catching a few touchdowns. Hope they got a camera on Aaron when that happens. 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 25, 2021 Posted August 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: It’s funny, and sad, that the WR glut became a problem in one day. We had 10-11. We lost 5 in one day. McKenzie got hurt although we don’t know extent. Duke and Lance released. Cole and Gabriel sent home. We don’t want to play Diggs who just returned or Sanders. Hodgins and Stevenson are out. That leaves Kumerow, Gentry, Brandon Powell and something named Tre Miller for Saturday? Who might I be forgetting? I have no idea who Tre Miller is so you may know something I don't. We had 12 WR, with the names in red presumed unavailable because known to be injured/not practicing before today: Diggs Sanders Beasley Davis McKenzie Kumerow Hodgins Powell Stevenson Gentry Williams Lenoir Now we have Diggs Sanders Beasley Davis McKenzie Kumerow Hodgins (may practice this week) Powell Stevenson Gentry Gafford My guess is in this game, we see some early Kumerow, then a lot of Powell and Gentry with a splash of Gafford towards the end. Thats ASSuming we predict McKenzie will be available for the opener, otherwise we may bubble-wrap Powell as the new return guy. I'm also wondering if we might see more (1,2) or (2,1) sets with either 2 TE or with Gilliam as fullback. We may also see Breida (5 KR for SF) or Kerrith Whyte returning some kicks (he did in college, and has 14 KR in the NFL).
UConn James Posted August 25, 2021 Posted August 25, 2021 Hoping & thinking that we do keep 7 WRs and cut Taiwan Jones. Very little risk that anyone is going to pick up a 33-year-old special teamer. If/when we may need him he’ll be there and/or can be put on the PS.
Kelly the Dog Posted August 25, 2021 Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I have no idea who Tre Miller is so you may know something I don't. We had 12 WR, with the names in red presumed unavailable because known to be injured/not practicing before today: Diggs Sanders Beasley Davis McKenzie Kumerow Hodgins Powell Stevenson Gentry Williams Lenoir Now we have Diggs Sanders Beasley Davis McKenzie Kumerow Hodgins (may practice this week) Powell Stevenson Gentry Gafford My guess is in this game, we see some early Kumerow, then a lot of Powell and Gentry with a splash of Gafford towards the end. Thats ASSuming we predict McKenzie will be available for the opener, otherwise we may bubble-wrap Powell as the new return guy. I'm also wondering if we might see more (1,2) or (2,1) sets with either 2 TE or with Gilliam as fullback. We may also see Breida (5 KR for SF) or Kerrith Whyte returning some kicks (he did in college, and has 14 KR in the NFL). On nfl.com they list a Tre Walker (not Miller) as a WR on Bills. Don’t know anything about him. Edit: They just had some old info. Back in May we released Walker when we signed Lenoir. Edited August 25, 2021 by Kelly the Dog
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