Trubisky trade value?

[Coach Tuesday]

1 minute ago, dma0034 said:

I can see Daboll getting a HC spot and bringing Mitch with him next year

Is there an echo in here?

[gonzo1105]

Just now, dma0034 said:

I can see Daboll getting a HC spot and bringing Mitch with him next year

Yup let him stay for the year, Daboll gets a head job signs Trubisky, take the comp pick and say thank you very much then sign a Bridgwater/Lock/Darnold next year if they flip and rinse and repeat

[dma0034]

Just now, Coach Tuesday said:

Is there an echo in here?

 

Yeah I was writing that as you posted 😆😆😆

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Don’t  👏🏻 Trade 👏🏻Away👏🏻Good 👏🏻Depth 👏🏻 

[ganesh]

38 minutes ago, prissythecat said:

 

say we trade Trubisky.  What do we look like if Josh gets injured and Webb and Fromm have to step in for a few games?  That should quash any current notions of trading the backup.

May be we can trade Trubisky for Dalton as our backup !!!!! Plus the extra 1st round pick

[YattaOkasan]

4 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Don’t  👏🏻 Trade 👏🏻Away👏🏻Good 👏🏻Depth 👏🏻 

Particularly when the rest of the room isn’t deep. I am for trading Butler, Addison, Klein. But those are deep rooms. We have no security if we trade Mitch. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

3 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:

Particularly when the rest of the room isn’t deep. I am for trading Butler, Addison, Klein. But those are deep rooms. We have no security if we trade Mitch. 

Agreed!

[Rc2catch]

One good preseason game and we want to judge compensation.. 

 

If you really did some homework you’d see our boy McCarron went down non contact injury in Atlanta and all they have is UDFA franks as backup. 
So maybe… Fromm or Webb could be sent there for a late round pick. 
Leave Mitch alone. Allen is amazing but has taken terrible hits every year, having a good backup outweighs any realistic compensation Trubisky may get. 

[BillsCuse]

44 minutes ago, prissythecat said:

 

say we trade Trubisky.  What do we look like if Josh gets injured and Webb and Fromm have to step in for a few games?  That should quash any current notions of trading the backup.

Exactly.  Knock on wood, but if Allen got hurt for say 4-6 games or something similar, The Bills need someone to keep them a float during that span.  Losing a lot of those games would seriously hurt playoff chances.  Keep Trubisky without a doubt.  

[Albany,n.y.]

26 minutes ago, Chaos said:

The point of the thread is not to advocate trading Trubisky.  Reading comprehension is an important skill.  Its a hypothetical question.  I am certain that Beane has already thought of his response if he is asked.   I doubt seriously his response would be "Holy *****, didn't think of that, during free agency no one wanted him."  

Hypothetical questions that aren't realistic, really aren't legitimate questions.  I can pose a question like this: If Gisele leaves Brady do you think I have a chance?  The question is something only Lloyd Christmas would ask. 

 

Beane clearly stated that Trubisky is here for 2021 when he signed.  His response would be "I already stated when we signed him he's here for the entire season" while he'd be thinking : What's wrong with you for asking such a stupid question, wasn't I clear enough when I said he's here for the season?    

[Teddy KGB]

31 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

No one is offering a second. 

 WFT, Pit, Houston, and Philly should. 

Edited August 22, 2021 by Teddy KGB

[Doc]

32 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

What's wrong with having a good backup 

 

30 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

For whatever reason, people rave about our depth one minute and then want to trade them the next. It’s bizarre 

 

25 minutes ago, Beast said:

Exactly.

 

Unfortunately, for some, the college draft is what football is all about. Next year and the years after. 
 

This team is about the here and now. The goal is to win a Lombardi.

 

Nothing is wrong with having a good backup.  But if someone were to offer a 1st (unlikely but...), seeing as how he's only going to be here 1 year, I'd make the trade. 

[billsbackto81]

24 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

Every one of those teams would be looking to upgrade at qb if he were starter. We did 20 years of cycling through those guys and suddenly folks think they are getting a second rounder in august/September for a low tier starter/good backup that won’t know the playbook? 

You don't know what his development would've been like with another team. Chicago just like the Jets had idiots running the show. Better coaching and acquisitions might've made a big difference for Trubisky and Darnold for that matter. I think many take for granted just how fortunate Josh was to land on a team with a staff that has competence and vision. 

[dpberr]

The Bills are legitimate SB contenders this season.  

 

The Bills are not trading Mitch Trubisky this year.   He's the Reich to the Kelly, the Hostetler to the Phil Simms, the Foles to the Wentz.  

[billsbackto81]

38 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

It’s not harsh, it’s reality. And if signing a guy like Trubisky messes with the mind set and development of the young QB you drafted then that player was never going to ever be good if he’s that mentally weak. 

Perhaps, but Mitch could very well be the second coming of Fitzpatrick. Career back up that gets a starting opportunity every blue moon.

1 minute ago, dpberr said:

The Bills are legitimate SB contenders this season.  

 

The Bills are not trading Mitch Trubisky this year.   He's the Reich to the Kelly, the Hostetler to the Phil Simms, the Foles to the Wentz.  

You had to go there?😤

[Ethan in Cleveland]

We are in win now mode.  Give Beane credit for upgrading the back-up QB position.  Now jettison Fromm and take advantage of the open roster spot.  And let's all hope he gets 25 snaps all year in blowouts.  Bes case scenario is someone signs him to a contract next year and they get a comp pick out of it.

 

[Albany,n.y.]

23 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

10 to 1 says they wont trade him for anything this season.

 

they might, might take offers next season, might?

Nope.  A team cannot trade a free agent unless they franchise or transition him & then the tag immediately is added to their cap & they can't go over the cap.  So they would have to have the extra cap $ before tagging the player & then until they trade him it ties their hands in free agency.  It's better to hope he signs for big $ elsewhere and you can get a comp pick, but if you sign enough free agents you won't even get a comp pick.  

[Shaw66]

1 hour ago, Chaos said:

Mitch Trubisky seems to be playing at a mid-range starting QB level.  He is young and has the measurables that led to him being a first round pick? What could the Bills get for him in a trade? Does the level of potential compensation warrant making a trade? 

Interesting question.   There's precedent, of course, although it happened in a slightly different circumstance.   Sam Bradford was a number one overall pick (Trubisky was second), and became the backup in Philadelphia when the Eagles drafted Wentz and he won the starting job.  Bradford had gotten to Philadelphia after a shaky start to his career in St. Louis, the same kind of shaky start Trubisky had.  

 

Minnesota gave the Eagles a first and a conditional fourth for Bradford.  

 

The Eagles situation was not completely similar.  They probably thought they needed to groom Wentz as a starter before they challenged for the Super Bowl, which is exactly what happened.  He went 7-9 the season they traded Bradford, and they wouldn't have done much better with Bradford at QB.  The next season, they got Foles to back up Wentz, and they won the Super Bowl with Wentz injured and out of the lineup.   In other words, the Eagles got themselves a quality back up when they thought they had a shot to win it all, and the backup won it for them.  

 

The Bills need a quality backup this year, so a first and a conditional fourth wouldn't be enough.  And Fromm and Webb haven't been looking like Nick Foles.  He was a third round pick, like Webb, but still.  

[Scott7975]

I remember when people were screaming for Matt Barkley to start over Josh Allen because of one game played against a terrible Jets team.  That said, you don't trade the only viable backup QB you have.  Personally I hope he is willing to sign a few year deal and stay our backup, but some team will want him for a starter.

[JimBob2232]

With the way Josh plays - having someone who can step in as a backup is critical.  Mitch hasnt been great in his career - but he has the right pedigree for a top of the line backup QB.  I'd change my mind if you could get a second rounder for him...but thats a pipe dream given that 6 months ago nobody wanted him at all.  2 preseason games wont change that. 

 

If preaseason was all that mattered - Gibron Hamdan would have been our QB for the last 10 years.

Edited August 22, 2021 by JimBob2232