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He may not be a bad choice as a combination 3rd down back as well as #5 receiver. They could do a lot of things with him. Put him in motion, start him in the backfield and then split him wide. He isn't a bad blocker (and I am not suggesting using him as our exclusive 3rd down back as I expect Willis to be in most of the time). He was an RB in college for awhile. He can break tackles. And no matter how many he has dropped, he has better hands than Willis or Shaud Williams. It could create some interesting mismatches with Reed on LBs instead of DBs. Just a thought.

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Parrish is 5'8" in high heels.  I don't know how he's going to line up as a WR.  He has no reach except if he's leaping. 

 

I can see him running back KOs and Punt Retruns.

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The Bills didnt draft a guy in the second round if they ddnt think he was going to be able to play. It's just a matter of how good or bad he is. He was able to play WR at arguably the biggest program in college football, and they said he was too small to return KO but not play WR. In the slot he will go in motion, or be off the line a yard, and be able to avoid the jams. I am not saying he is great or will be great in any way, but he will be our #3 WR this year or get significant playing time as a #4. He was drafted to come in and play immediately.

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Parrish is 5'8" in high heels.  I don't know how he's going to line up as a WR.  He has no reach except if he's leaping. 

 

I can see him running back KOs and Punt Retruns.

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Parrish was measured at 5' 9-3/4". It's not his height that bothers me, it's the fact that he only weighs 168 pounds.

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they said he was too small to return KO but not play WR.

 

I've seen this a couple of places---"too small to return KO." How can someone be too small to return KO? Is it that the coaches are worried he's going to get creamed? If that's the case, it seems to me punt returning is equally dangerous. I just don't get it. :(

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Parrish is 5'8" in high heels.  I don't know how he's going to line up as a WR.  He has no reach except if he's leaping. 

 

I can see him running back KOs and Punt Retruns.

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Deion Branch , Dante Hall , Troy Brown , Brandon Stokley , Antwaan Randle El, Santana Moss, L. Coles, Dennis Northcutt, Peerless Price, Lee Evans are all short they seem to do ok.

 

I liken Parrish to a Deion Branch or Randle El. Put him in the slot and with his speed he'll be able to stretch defenses with his speed. And while he might not win many or any jump ball battles he'll be able to get good sepeartion on timing routes and crossing patterns leading to plenty YAC (Yards after catch) plus he'll be a weapon on st's as well. At Least thats the theory. let's not rag on someone cause they're short when they haven't played a down in the nfl yet.

 

 

P.S I don't want to know why or how you know parrish is 5'8 in high heels. keep that stuff to yourself :(

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Parrish is 5'8" in high heels.  I don't know how he's going to line up as a WR.  He has no reach except if he's leaping. 

 

I can see him running back KOs and Punt Retruns.

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well McGee did go to the pro-bowl. so Parrish would b edoing the punt returns..

 

so we used our 2nd round draft pick to select a punt returner??

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Based on my reading of the cap hits numbers wonderfully provided by Clumpingplatelets, if Reed is cut it will create 400K in deadspace from his amortized bonus.

 

I'mk pretty sure that the Bills braintrust will bite the bullet if necessary and take a cap hit for a player they have cut if they have to. However, I think they will be reluctan enough to do this that they will give a player they have already committed $ for every chance to make the roster.

 

As we currently are carrying $5.3 million in deadspace in 2005, (a lot of this is Bledsoe) an extra half million for Reed is not make or break, but it is substantial enough he will likely get a second look in camp (if not a third and fourth look) even if he screws up.

 

Reed was very impressive in past camps including the two that led to bad seasons for him.

 

Folks have asked whether he will be cut and I really doubt this, and in fact I think he will get every chance to replicate his first year very good results as a slot WR for Evans/Moulds that he achieved with Moulds/PP

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Based on my reading of the cap hits numbers wonderfully provided by Clumpingplatelets, if Reed is cut it will create 400K in deadspace from his amortized bonus.

 

I'mk pretty sure that the Bills braintrust will bite the bullet if necessary and take a cap hit for a player they have cut if they have to. However, I think they will be reluctan enough to do this that they will give a player they have already committed $ for every chance to make the roster.

 

As we currently are carrying $5.3 million in deadspace in 2005, (a lot of this is Bledsoe) an extra half million for Reed is not make or break, but it is substantial enough he will likely get a second look in camp (if not a third and fourth look) even if he screws up.

 

Reed was very impressive in past camps including the two that led to bad seasons for him.

 

Folks have asked whether he will be cut and I really doubt this, and in fact I think he will get every chance to replicate his first year very good results as a slot WR for Evans/Moulds that he achieved with Moulds/PP

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>>>>Based on my reading of the cap hits numbers wonderfully provided by Clumpingplatelets, if Reed is cut it will create 400K in deadspace from his amortized bonus.<<<<

 

OK, but how much would they save by eliminating his salary?

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well McGee did go to the pro-bowl. so Parrish would b edoing the punt returns..

 

so we used our 2nd round draft pick to select a punt returner??

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If he turns out to be a good one, I'll be happier with that than with, say, when we drafted the likes of Bucky Brooks, Travares Tillman, Robert Hicks, Todd Collins, James Patton and Mark Traynowicz. Two offensive linemen, a quarterback, a defensive back, a wide receiver and a defensive lineman that didn't amount to stojan. It's not the position, it's whether the guy can PLAY.

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Parrish is 5'8" in high heels.  I don't know how he's going to line up as a WR.  He has no reach except if he's leaping. 

 

I can see him running back KOs and Punt Retruns.

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Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you?

-Yoda

 

at least let him play a couple games before writing him off due to his size. besides, the little guy has a history of success in buffalo...

 

Thurman Thomas

Steve Tasker

Marv Levy

Doug Flutie

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Parrish is 5'8" in high heels.  I don't know how he's going to line up as a WR.  He has no reach except if he's leaping. 

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jesus...where do people come up with this crap?

 

memo to surfmeister -- miami plays bigtime college football. they don't line up against midgets.

 

0:):lol::doh:

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The Bills didnt draft a guy in the second round if they ddnt think he was going to be able to play. It's just a matter of how good or bad he is. He was able to play WR at arguably the biggest program in college football, and they said he was too small to return KO but not play WR. In the slot he will go in motion, or be off the line a yard, and be able to avoid the jams. I am not saying he is great or will be great in any way, but he will be our #3 WR this year or get significant playing time as a #4. He was drafted to come in and play immediately.

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he will contriobute immediately as a PR. If he gets 8 touches for 100 yards a game, with the threat to break the big play, he will earn his keep.

 

He will also get the ocassional look at running slant patterns out of the slot. If he breaks a few of those, Losman won't have to contend with all out blitzes.

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>>>>Based on my reading of the cap hits numbers wonderfully provided by Clumpingplatelets, if Reed is cut it will create 400K in deadspace from his amortized bonus.<<<<

 

OK, but how much would they save by eliminating his salary?

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My recollection is that his cap hit is split pretty evenly between 400K+ in amrtozed bonus and 400K+ in actual payments.

 

If he were to be cut, I would guess it would be because a rookie made the roster and the cap impact would be that everyone below him would move up a notch on the Bills salary list and a player not counted against the cap would now move up to the to be counted list.

 

Thus, i would guess that any savings from the cut to the cap or out of pocket would be marginal if anything.

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He may not be a bad choice as a combination 3rd down back as well as #5 receiver. They could do a lot of things with him. Put him in motion, start him in the backfield and then split him wide. He isn't a bad blocker (and I am not suggesting using him as our exclusive 3rd down back as I expect Willis to be in most of the time). He was an RB in college for awhile. He can break tackles. And no matter how many he has dropped, he has better hands than Willis or Shaud Williams. It could create some interesting mismatches with Reed on LBs instead of DBs. Just a thought.

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I think he'd be dynamite on slot receiver screen-type passes...just let him hide behind MW, nobody would find him for weeks! (the flip side is if Mikey ever fell on him, he'd leave nothing but a big grease spot behind...).

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he will contriobute immediately as a PR. If he gets 8 touches for 100 yards a game, with the threat to break the big play, he will earn his keep.

 

He will also get the ocassional look at running slant patterns out of the slot. If he breaks a few of those, Losman won't have to contend with all out blitzes.

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I agree with the 8-10 touches. I also see him running reverses and fake reverses a lot, taking pitches out of the backfield, a lot of wide receiver screens, just plain being a pain in the ass for the defense, and perhaps passing once in a while, (he was an all-state high school QB who threw for 2000 yards). I really don't even think they imagine him to be Moulds successor, just always a slot guy and playmaker. If Moulds were to be released next season or go down with injury I don't expect this #3 to go up a notch to become #2, I expect him to always be #3. But a guy with talent can be a difference maker.

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Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you?

-Yoda

 

at least let him play a couple games before writing him off due to his size.  besides, the little guy has a history of success in buffalo...

 

Thurman Thomas

Steve Tasker

Marv Levy

Doug Flutie

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Eric Metcalf

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Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you?

-Yoda

 

at least let him play a couple games before writing him off due to his size.  besides, the little guy has a history of success in buffalo...

 

Thurman Thomas

Steve Tasker

Marv Levy

Doug Flutie

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Allen Rossum

CB/PR - Atlanta Falcons

5' 8" 178 pounds

 

http://starbulletin.com/2005/02/11/sports/notebook.html

 

Rossum knows what is in store for Owens

By Jason Kaneshiro and Dave Reardon

 

 

Atlanta's Allen Rossum can certainly relate to the challenge facing former University of Hawaii standout Chad Owens in his quest to make an NFL roster.

 

Rossum, the NFC's kick-return specialist, is the smallest player in the Pro Bowl at 5-foot-8 and had a bit of advice for the 5-9 Owens, who hopes his return ability can help him make the jump to the pros.

 

"Just continue to work at his craft and the things that he does well," Rossum said. "Because size doesn't matter, it's the heart that you have and if you can make plays. That's it."

 

Rossum's big-play ability landed him his first Pro Bowl berth in his seventh season in the league.

 

Rossum finished second in the NFC in punt returns by averaging 12.4 yards per return in the regular season. But he turned it up in the playoffs, averaging 34.4 yards in five punt returns. His 68-yard TD return against St. Louis helped send the Falcons to the NFC championship game.

 

"No matter what level I was on, I had to prove that I could play," Rossum said. "No matter what size you are, especially at this level, you have to prove that you can play and maintain your performance, if not they'll get somebody else who can. No matter what size you are, what school, or what type of talent you are, you always have to prove your worth."

 

Rossum last played in Aloha Stadium as a cornerback for Notre Dame in 1997. He returned an interception 37 yards for a touchdown on the first play of scrimmage against UH and the Irish hung on for a 23-22 win.

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