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The amount of people defending this and calling it clean 😬 

 

If Allen got hit like this Buffalo would be fuming, call a spade a spade and recognize its dirty 

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Just now, elijah said:

The amount of people defending this and calling it clean 😬 

 

If Allen got hit like this Buffalo would be fuming, call a spade a spade and recognize its dirty 

Not dirty at all but it warranted a flag. 

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1 minute ago, Turk71 said:

Smith has a clear path to a QB who doesn't see him coming and so he clocks him full speed helmet to helmet and gets a 15 yard pen., what a dangerous idiot.

Nah... I guarantee you that no players have any ill-will towards Smith for that.

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46 minutes ago, Maynard said:

Even McDermott was pissed about that one. I saw them looking at Fields helmet as well. Don’t think he had it strapped down properly and that’s why it went flying off. 

The helmet flying off drew the flag.

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Fields should have been fined for equipment malfunction.  

No way should that hit should have dislodged helmet.

 

Lets get a member of NFLPA union board to test it - hit person 100 times and see how many times it is dislodged.

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55 minutes ago, Utah John said:

Hit him in the chest with the shoulder, then don't land on him with full body weight.  You know, what the NFL requires these days.

 

How are you supposed to wrap up if you lead with the shoulder? 

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2 minutes ago, Might Rather said:

The helmet flying off drew the flag.

Not arguing that at all. I don’t think he had his helmet on correctly. 

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1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

Dirty play

Failed to see where the crown of the helmet was used. I understand the flag, they're gonna call that every time but it's not "dirty".

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Will always be flagged there. Lower your aim point about a foot. Or slide you head. 
 

but that all said welcome to the NFL Rook. 

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Bills fans view of a clean play or dirty play totally depends on who is taking the shot.  That play reversed against Allen this place would have blown up.

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The New England Cheats will see this and place a small piece of silk connected to helmet snap.

Next critical play QB pulls string when he is going down and helmet goes off with free down for them.

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17 minutes ago, elijah said:

The amount of people defending this and calling it clean 😬 

 

If Allen got hit like this Buffalo would be fuming, call a spade a spade and recognize its dirty 

It was a penalty, dirty is another story.   These plays happen fast, there is not always time to aim as well as you need to per the rules.

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1 hour ago, BaaadThingsMan said:

They all have em. Welcome to the NFL rookie. Was that fast? It seemed fast. 

Surprised he didn't see that since the game seemed "slow" to him.

Welcome to the NFL...

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1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

Dirty play

False, clean as Josh Allen's jock strap after this game.:wub:

4 minutes ago, mattynh said:

Bills fans view of a clean play or dirty play totally depends on who is taking the shot.  That play reversed against Allen this place would have blown up.

That would've hit Allen in the no touch zone... therefore you don't touch Allen like that. 

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1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

Definitely a penalty by the rule, but it's not a dirty play and I'd be coaching the guys to make that hit all day.

Gotta hit him a foot lower.   Coaches don't want that penalty.   

 

Smith blew it.  He'll learn. 

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10 minutes ago, mattynh said:

It was a penalty, dirty is another story.   These plays happen fast, there is not always time to aim as well as you need to per the rules.

Not dirty, but he had time to aim.   Plenty of time.   Straight run at the QB, hit in in the belly.  

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1 minute ago, Shaw66 said:

Not dirty, but he had time to aim.   Plenty of time.   Straight run at the QB, hit in in the belly.  

It can be corrected.  I see your point but I also see if from the point of a defender who was probably anticipating he would not stand there blind to the rush like a statue.    He probably was waiting for Fields to escape one way or the other but he never saw it coming.  

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1 minute ago, mattynh said:

It can be corrected.  I see your point but I also see if from the point of a defender who was probably anticipating he would not stand there blind to the rush like a statue.    He probably was waiting for Fields to escape one way or the other but he never saw it coming.  

Right.   I'm not saying it's easy.   Obviously, the guy has been coached not to hit the QB in the head, but at full speed with a mobile QB, it's not easy.   

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1 hour ago, Draconator said:

No it wasn't. Smith lowered his head towards Field's chest. Fields at the last minute lowered his head, making Smith's helmet contact the bottom of Fields face mask. 

 

Lowered his helmet to initiate contact, you mean? Yeah, that's a flag.

 

Good hustle, but he absolutely created contact to the QB's head. It's not even a debate. That's a flag for every QB in the league except Cam Newton. Every time.

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