Preseason TNF: Patriots at Eagles 7:30 NFLN

[Klaus]

9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

if the Bills lost Allen they are a completely different team…. Probably around .500. If they lost Diggs it’s a big blow but I still think they are a playoff team because Allen would find a way to carry the team and offense.

 

 

Either injury would hamper the offence, but I think Mitch could keep the team afloat. Consider that he was the 19th or 20th most productive QB on a sub par Bears team last year, if he was out on the field with our WR core I think he could put up some decent numbers. It wouldn't be the same as Josh, but our QB 2 is certainly better than quite of a few week 1 starters in 2021. 

[JMF2006]

The one thing I found out is that the Eagles are a terrible team.

 

How can you objectively  grade or rate your talent against a 3 or 4 win team.

 

I don't think the Patriots are 35-0 good against a real team.

[Ghost_002!]

6 minutes ago, JMF2006 said:

The one thing I found out is that the Eagles are a terrible team.

 

How can you objectively  grade or rate your talent against a 3 or 4 win team.

 

[B]I don't think the Patriots are 35-0 good against a real team.[/b]

 

You do realize any team can win by that much in the NFL. Not every score has to come from the offense...

 

And again it's preseason, nothing anyone is seeing from any team is going to tell you much.

[wjag]

All I know is I would not want to be on the 0-35 side as a coach in ANY game, preseason or not. What that game told the Eagles was that even the Patriots 3rd stringers were better than the Eagles 3rd stringers.  Has to be a sour mood in Philly today. 

[Coach Tuesday]

5 minutes ago, wjag said:

All I know is I would not want to be on the 0-35 side as a coach in ANY game, preseason or not. What that game told the Eagles was that even the Patriots 3rd stringers were better than the Eagles 3rd stringers.  Has to be a sour mood in Philly today. 

Mostly true.  The Pats played a lot of their first and second stringers.

[DrDawkinstein]

N'Keal Harry taking out 2 Linemen.

 

Offensive linemen tho...

 

https://streamable.com/zi2tna

 

LOL

[JMF2006]

4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

N'Keal Harry taking out 2 Linemen.

 

Offensive linemen tho...

 

https://streamable.com/zi2tna

 

LOL

 

LMAO he blocks his own LT 🤣

[P Riv]

NE showed up and more or less played the type of game we've been expecting since their spending spree.  Newton looks improved, Mac Jones looks as advertised also.  I am surprised that they are down 3 out of 4 TE's when that was their biggest upgrade this past offseason.  

We expect them to play tough D, try to run on everyone, etc.  Now what I really want to know is can they rely on their kicker (either one) and can they throw the ball to win a game if they have to.  Two big questions that remain.  The Jets aren't going anywhere this season and the Dolphins probably aren't either, so this is a two horse race and we're the fav.  I have slowly growing concern over this NE team though....

Edited August 20, 2021 by P Riv

[PatsFanNH]

3 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

if the Bills lost Allen they are a completely different team…. Probably around .500. If they lost Diggs it’s a big blow but I still think they are a playoff team because Allen would find a way to carry the team and offense.

 

I agree, but with both your a SB contender. That’s why I consider it derailed.   The only question I have is what Defense shows up for the Bills.  

[SirAndrew]

It seems like reactions are divided between the Pats being the greatest team in NFL history, or the Eagles as the worst. I really don’t read that much into preseason outcomes. The Eagles are projected to be bad, and the Pats are probably a decent team. I don’t think the Pats are title contenders, but they should win enough games to contend for the playoffs imo. Bills fans are weird about admitting the Pats could be decent. The Pats can still be a good team without being better than us this season. 

[goober]

12 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

I have faith in Jones, I think he could manage the O fine and keep from making the big mistake while taking advantage of any turnovers the D gets.  this team is built a lot like 2001 team for the D to win games and for the O not to screw it up with bad turnovers.  (In other words I see Jones being able play like Brady did in 2001, Brady wasn’t the week one starter for us that year either lol)

 

Possibly, but I found this to be an interesting alternative perspective:

Letting Tom Brady go is worse than trading away Babe Ruth, so the Curse of the GOAT could be worse than the Curse of the Bambino, which kept the Red Sox from winning a World Series for 86 years.

https://www.pressherald.com/2020/03/31/the-universal-notebook-the-curse-of-the-mook-and-the-goat/

Based upon my many years research into the occult and all things supernatural, this does seem like the most likely scenario (unfortunately).

[RoyBatty is alive]

14 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

And worse, he’s the exact opposite player from Hurts.  You have to completely change your offense when he comes in.  The blocking, the timing, everything.  What are the Eagles doing?

 

Isnt Mac Jones the direct opposite of Cam Newton?

[JGMcD2]

13 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

know the Pats can beat the Chiefs, hell the should have last year! The Bills are the only team in the AFC that I am unsure of and that’s because of the Allen and Diggs connection. The Bills lose either one for any reason and your season is derailed big time! 

Obviously don’t want to lose either.. but this is kind of broad. If they’re out for the year… sure it’s an enormous blow. If Josh misses 4-5 games (lord, I hope not) Mitch is more than capable of winning 3-4 games in his absence. 
 

There’s a legitimate case to be made that Mitch is the 2nd best QB in the AFC East, behind the aforementioned Josh Allen. 

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said:

I agree, but with both your a SB contender. That’s why I consider it derailed.   The only question I have is what Defense shows up for the Bills.  

 

The comment doesn't really make sense to make.  Losing a starting QB would pretty much derail just about every teams season.  I have that question too.  I hope better than last years defense.

[SCBills]

If you look at Super Bowl odds, the AFCE is a pretty tough division.  
 

Bills are only behind KC and TB, while both the Pats and Fins are in the top 10 of contenders at 30:1.  
 

Pats are going to be good.. they and the Dolphins are both potential WC teams.   
 

Sweeping the AFCE will be tough, although when discussing the strides team around us have made, we certainly have the ability to surround Josh with a much better run game and defense than we had last year… and it would be quite disappointing if we don’t.  …especially on Defense - I’m expecting a Top 10 unit this year. 
 

 

 

Edited August 20, 2021 by SCBills

[PromoTheRobot]

23 minutes ago, SCBills said:

If you look at Super Bowl odds, the AFCE is a pretty tough division.  
 

Bills are only behind KC and TB, while both the Pats and Fins are in the top 10 of contenders at 30:1.  
 

Pats are going to be good.. they and the Dolphins are both potential WC teams.   
 

Sweeping the AFCE will be tough, although when discussing the strides team around us have made, we certainly have the ability to surround Josh with a much better run game and defense than we had last year… and it would be quite disappointing if we don’t.  …especially on Defense - I’m expecting a Top 10 unit this year. 
 

 

 

 

Gonna have to disagree. Neither team has a QB. The Pats are trying to win the way the Bills did when we didn't have a QB.

[JerseyBills]

16 hours ago, AmishRifle said:

Pull out the bag of tricks.  

By tricks you mean the check book? 

[ColoradoBills]

Eagles are probably going to be in tank mode plus their cap is a mess next year too.

Time to get a TE from them!

 

 

 

 

Dallas Goedert is a FA next year and will not re-sign with Iggles.

Get'er done Brandon!

[P Riv]

40 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Gonna have to disagree. Neither team has a QB. The Pats are trying to win the way the Bills did when we didn't have a QB.

 

It looks to me the Pats are trying to win the same way they've been doing it for 2 decades.  Same coach, same methods, different players. 

[Watkins90]

18 hours ago, AmishRifle said:

I think we’re seeing Belichick’s formula this year. Tough defense, opportunistic, and eat clock with a running game supplemented by high percentage passing.  

Hasn't that always been his formula.