Chiefs = Paper Tigers

[Solomon Grundy]

31 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I like the effort! 
 

But good teams win close games. 

Yeah, but they had no business winning that Falcons game. All the DB had to do is catch the ball.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

Just now, Solomon Grundy said:

Yeah, but they had no business winning that Falcons game. All the DB had to do is catch the ball.

True, but good teams get a little more lucky too, it seems. How much dumb luck has befallen the Patriots over the years? It’s astounding. 
 

Also, we got some pretty good breaks ourselves last year, including a questionable PI call at the end of the Rams game to win it. 
 

But even separating out fluke plays, good teams do know how to grind it out and win close games or games when they aren’t playing their best. 

[FilthyBeast]

19 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

How do you classify a team that won the SB 2 years ago, made it to the SB last year, while kicking our ass twice in the process, and who has the best QB in the NFL(until proven otherwise) as a paper tiger?

 

That just doesn't compute.  A paper tiger is a team that looks good on paper but doesn't do anything in the big games when it counts.  Clearly that isn't them.

 

Pretty much, I guarantee there's not a Chiefs player, coach, fan, etc that are worried about the Bills until we do something to prove otherwise.

[msw2112]

1 hour ago, DCofNC said:

Remember (maybe you aren’t this old), the season where Jarious Byrd could not be in the wrong place? He had the ball fall in his lap the minute he walked on the field.  It won the Bills a lot of games by way of “stopping” drives where it was just a random tip that practically got stuck in his face mask.  It happens that teams get a lucky streak, heck a lucky season.  The Falcons that year played in a WEAK division and got a lot of bounces, the next year they got slapped around like they did in the playoffs when they ran into a real team. 
 

The Chiefs have dominated almost every team they have played in the last 2 years and whooped the Bills handedly.  This is not a team that’s gotten by on beating up on garbage teams.  They have had some off days, every team does,  but to look at them and regard them as anything less than the best team in the AFC and arguably the best team in the NFL is just silly.   The Bucs did get hot at the right time and they did catch some major breaks (like virtually the entire Chiefs starting OL being out), and they did win, so if you want to say they are the team to beat until proven otherwise, fine.   There’s still no reasonable argument the Chiefs aren’t the second best team or better. 

 

This comment made me think of the year that Dick Jauron led the Chicago Bears to the playoffs and was the NFL coach of the year.  They got every tip, bounce and call that year.  They were medicore to bad before that season and after it.  I will also always remember an article from many years back when the Bills were looking for a new coach.  The headline read:  "Bills to Interview Dick Jauron for Head Coaching Position.....Why?"

 

But getting back to the point of this thead, Jauron's one year of success with the Bears is a paper tiger type of thing.  This Chiefs team is not that.  They have been very good to excellent for several years (they were a multi-year playoff team BEFORE Mahomes) and, if you take the last 2 seasons collectively, they were the NFL's best team (2 Super Bowl appearances, one victory).  They soundly beat the Bills twice in two different styles of games, including the AFC Championship where they spotted the Bills 9 and still won handily.

 

I do, however, believe that if the Bills improve their defense and can run a little bit, they certainly can compete with, and potentially beat, the Chiefs this year.  If those things don't happen, the Bills will remain #2 or #3 in the AFC.

[Mark Vader]

2 hours ago, Rc2catch said:

Unless we get a ring they’re better than us. It’s that simple. You can’t even have a debate. They’ve beat us down head to head. 
Doesn’t matter who they lose to. Doesn’t matter Tampa  that the Refs stomped them. 

Fixed

[ngbills]

2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

All that matters. A win is a win.

Bills - A win is a win; Close loss should have been a win.

Other Teams - A loss is a loss; Close win should have been a loss.

[colin]

3 hours ago, teef said:

 

 

you often contribute chortle worthy levity to our threads, but this was just the right mix of subtle and ham handed to really kick up a Tuesday take thread.

 

Thank you for your service.

[Matt_In_NH]

They won a lot of close games....that does not come close to making them paper tigers....that is a weird label to put on a team that has been to and won one of the last two SB's.  And three years ago were in OT in the AFC championship game.  Are they beatable, sure they are beatable.

Edited August 17, 2021 by mattynh

[Dr. K]

4 minutes ago, mattynh said:

They won a lot of close games....that does not come close to making them paper tigers....that is a weird label to put on a team that has been to and won one of the last two SB's.  And three years ago were in OT in the AFC championship game.  Are they beatable, sure they are beatable.

You're right--I should not have used the term "paper tigers." Maybe it should have been "Chiefs = Vulnerable" 

 

But my point is that the Chiefs are not the invincible machine that so many people here and in the press say they are. They are vulnerable, and they showed it repeatedly in the run-up to the Super Bowl, where the best game they played from the beginning of November to the Super Bowl was the one they played against the Bills, aided by refs who put away their whistles on holding by the Chiefs secondary. 

 

The Chiefs have more than earned their respect from the rest of the league. But they aren't the 1942 Bears. 

[Teddy KGB]

No one can stop Tyreke, Kelce, or Mahomes.    
 

Delete this.  

[Matt_In_NH]

6 minutes ago, Dr. K said:

You're right--I should not have used the term "paper tigers." Maybe it should have been "Chiefs = Vulnerable" 

 

But my point is that the Chiefs are not the invincible machine that so many people here and in the press say they are. They are vulnerable, and they showed it repeatedly in the run-up to the Super Bowl, where the best game they played from the beginning of November to the Super Bowl was the one they played against the Bills, aided by refs who put away their whistles on holding by the Chiefs secondary. 

 

The Chiefs have more than earned their respect from the rest of the league. But they aren't the 1942 Bears. 

you went 2 score and 3 years earlier than I would have for a Bear analogy.

[Dr. K]

2 minutes ago, mattynh said:

you went 2 score and 3 years earlier than I would have for a Bear analogy.

Only undefeated NFL season ever.

 

I'm very old. 😀

[Rico]

10 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

No one can stop Tyreke, Kelce, or Mahomes.    
 

Delete this.  

[boco357]

Spagnuolo has owned this offense and Daboll the past two games.  

[eball]

3 hours ago, Bangarang said:

This is worse than the thread that ranked edge rushers after one preseason game. 

 

Or the one calling out Kumerow for not showing up.

[LabattBlue]

The OP is just trying to lure 0.0 volts into a prolonged and heated argument. 😂

[Teddy KGB]

1 hour ago, Rico said:

One of the 10 Super Bowls he will play in 

 

 

Nice 

[Rico]

6 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

One of the 10 Super Bowls he will play in 

 

 

Nice 

with Andy Reid as his coach.  

[Simon]

4 hours ago, First Round Bust said:

in both games last season, the bills played the chiefs competetively for the first half, but were outscored and really outclassed in the second half of each

 

We may have hung around on the scoreboard for a while, but let's not kid ourselves.

The Chiefs physically kicked the living ***** out of the Bills all over the field right from the get-go.

And it wasn't even close.

[Jauronimo]

Bills:Chiefs as Paper Mice:Paper Tigers