sherpa Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Artful Dodger said: Don't you think the administration has already lost the military? This level of incompetence is almost beyond belief. Every decision they've made has gone wrong. I don't know. I'm less connected than I used to be. I am certain that if this is not responded to, and I'm sure it will, that eventuality will occur.
Big Gun Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 Just reporting 13 US troops killed and upwards of 20 injured 1
Chef Jim Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 29 minutes ago, sherpa said: This clearly bothers me, but doesn't surprise me. I offer my opinion as a guy who sat in a ready room on an aircraft carrier with the ability to deliver unspeakable harm to the enemies of the US. Nothing gets the juices going like knowing there are troops on the ground that are being hit. There is no better mission than protecting American soldiers in the dirt. Did the TopGun thing. Taught it. It's fun, but protecting troops on the ground is like protecting your daughter from assault. It is the single most motivating mission you can do, worth giving your life for, and watching Marines die while you could have stopped it is vomit inducing. This has to be responded to, quickly, or this administration will lose the military. Thank you for your service! And I don't say that flippantly like so many do!
Big Blitz Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 Luckily all our intelligence and focus has been on the Great Insurrection of January 6th. Top priority. What a f.......ing disaster. 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 29 minutes ago, OrangeBills said: Well, I'll try to provide an answer here, even though I know our Leftist friends won't play fair....BTW, I have been critical of this disastrous Administration's decisions virtually across the board, but you are right, what's done is done and at the moment we are all on the same side, no question. In response to your question about what could have gone better: To me, it made no sense to close the MILITARY AIRBASE that we had solidified over TWENTY YEARS for no reason before our people were out, no sensible reason at all. The reason we were given, by our idiotic Head of Joint Chiefs, who was more focused on Woke issues in the Military instead of doing his job, was that they couldn't defend both the base AND the Embassy, so they closed the Airport. The issue I have, is they were supposedly receiving credible intelligence that Taliban were advancing more quickly than normal and that Kabul could fall within months or even weeks/days of withdrawal...thus the need for an Embassy to remain was not sensible. They probably did not want to "tip" their deal with the Taliban in terms of closing the Embassy before, but you know what, life is full of difficult decisions, and they mucked this up so bad it's going to resonate for a long, long time. Now, they are probably going to strand tens of thousands of people who will be arrested, tortured and killed once the lights go out. ALSO, the withdrawal of our last Troop elements is colossally more difficult from that Urban airport than it would have been from Bagram, where air support could have facilitated the last departure of our TWO last planes, now we'll have to rely on Taliban to protect the last plane that lifts off out of that urban airport. That is just not a credible plan. So, I'm afraid this Administration has demonstrated just how incompetent they are with these actions. Either way Biden's administration is responsible because they executed the evacuation. We can MMQB it all day, facts are it was a failure and Americans died. Whenever I talked about pulling out of Afghanistan with people I always said there isn't a right way to do it.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) Even Biden’s press secretary, the associated press is publishing it: 2 suicide attacks outside Kabul airport; Russia says 13 dead (from @AP) of course they are getting the leads from Russia, who is giddy with delight at this impotent failure https://apnews.com/article/9e457201e5bbe75a4eb1901fedeee7a1 Edited August 26, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood
SoCal Deek Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) Aren't we overdue for another update from Governor where he tells us all that this surrender is going perfectly? Edited August 26, 2021 by SoCal Deek
billsfan1959 Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Either way Biden's administration is responsible because they executed the evacuation. We can MMQB it all day, facts are it was a failure and Americans died. Whenever I talked about pulling out of Afghanistan with people I always said there isn't a right way to do it. There sure as hell is a wrong way to do it and you are watching it unfold before your very eyes.... 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: There sure as hell is a wrong way to do it and you are watching it unfold before your very eyes.... All were wrong. Finish the job.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 Every plan involved working with the Taliban. It's unbelievable to me that we're working with the Taliban.
Tenhigh Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I think he's got to go on with the evacuation. I think he's got to secure the airport with everything he's got, and then continue with the evacuation.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: I think he's got to secure the airport with everything he's got, and then continue with the evacuation. There's not much you can do to prevent suicide bombings. I just can't believe we're trusting the Taliban to properly search everyone. Why did anyone think it was a smart idea to trust the Taliban?
SoCal Deek Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Every plan involved working with the Taliban. It's unbelievable to me that we're working with the Taliban. Lost in all of this is the fact that we just turned over control of an entire country to a street gang. If Congress wanted to do something constructive, they should be looking into how this happened. But nope...they're holding hearings on the January 6th ruckus, led by a guy in a bear suit! 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: Lost in all of this is the fact that we just turned over control of an entire country to a street gang. If Congress wanted to do something constructive, they should be looking into how this happened. But nope...they're holding hearings on the January 6th ruckus, led by a guy in a bear suit! That has always been the end game of evacuation. Taliban rule. I just don't understand why we accepted that.
SoCal Deek Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: That has always been the end game of evacuation. Taliban rule. I just don't understand why we accepted that. I disagree. Just a few short weeks ago Biden told the nation that the Afghan forces would defeat the Taliban. This has definitely NOT always been the end game. 1
Tenhigh Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: There's not much you can do to prevent suicide bombings. I just can't believe we're trusting the Taliban to properly search everyone. Why did anyone think it was a smart idea to trust the Taliban? You can put up concrete barriers, check points, have bomb sniffing dogs, there's plenty you can do. Now that we've drawn down so many of our soldiers and abandoned any strategic advantages we have there's no choice but to trust the Taliban.
sherpa Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: There's not much you can do to prevent suicide bombings. I just can't believe we're trusting the Taliban to properly search everyone. Why did anyone think it was a smart idea to trust the Taliban? There is certainly something you can do to respond to those attacks. These are funded and supplied. I am quite certain those that fund them are known. Respond with deadly force. We are over trying to win a political game. If the specifics are wrong, so be it. The effect is the same. This cannot go unresponded to.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I disagree. Just a few short weeks ago Biden told the nation that the Afghan forces would defeat the Taliban. This has definitely NOT always been the end game. The surrender by the Afgan forces is another story that deserves investigation. Almost seems like a setup. 3 minutes ago, sherpa said: There is certainly something you can do to respond to those attacks. These are funded and supplied. I am quite certain those that fund them are known. Respond with deadly force. We are over trying to win a political game. If the specifics are wrong, so be it. The effect is the same. This cannot go unresponded to. They will respond with airstrikes.
Big Blitz Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 The number 1 *trend* on Twitter is #NationalDogDay
hemma Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 People want out - they need to approach the gates the way they entered the world: Bare assed naked. Feeling Shy? Then stay in that hellhole. No more loss of life.
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