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Just now, ALF said:

 

My sons would be real happy with 0% interest

That's the deal, they give terrible interest rates and yet you can't erase this debt using bankruptcy. 

 

0 - 2% would be just fine, and if you spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to go to Columbia for a worthless degree, that's on you.

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53 minutes ago, Governor said:

Plot twist:

 

American soldiers are fired upon and Biden bombs the Taliban and ISIS.

 

oldmanfan starts doing cartwheels and Biden’s approval shoots up to 70 percent.

Hey, I wouldn't dismiss that scenario.   How about the administration enlisting the support of a couple hundred thousand members of the greatest threat to democracy?  All those "white supremacist" guys they claim are running around out there.   

Send this "red neck army" over to Afghanistan and offer 100 bucks a head for every Taliban or ISIS thug and dirt bag they take out.  And if they end up getting shot or killed then its just one less "domestic terrorist" to worry about!  Kill two birds with one stone, no pun intended.

Hey maybe even generate some revenue for selling them "Taliban and ISIS hunting licenses".  It would be more sport than shooting unarmed Deer and Rabbits.  This might be a win/win for everybody!  Because what's needed more than anything to address this problem is some creative out of the box thinking.       

 

  

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53 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Hey, I wouldn't dismiss that scenario.   How about the administration enlisting the support of a couple hundred thousand members of the greatest threat to democracy?  All those "white supremacist" guys they claim are running around out there.   

Send this "red neck army" over to Afghanistan and offer 100 bucks a head for every Taliban or ISIS thug and dirt bag they take out.  And if they end up getting shot or killed then its just one less "domestic terrorist" to worry about!  Kill two birds with one stone, no pun intended.

Hey maybe even generate some revenue for selling them "Taliban and ISIS hunting licenses".  It would be more sport than shooting unarmed Deer and Rabbits.  This might be a win/win for everybody!  Because what's needed more than anything to address this problem is some creative out of the box thinking.       

 

  

Never underestimate how much Americans like blowing stuff up. oldmanfan quickly reminded me of that.

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1 hour ago, Governor said:

 

If Biden didn't vomit on himself regarding Afghanistan, then Biden's budget would have been passed today.  Instead, some shaky D's on the Hill saw his blunder as an opportunity to flex their voices.  They called out Pelosi on her choice to push off the infrastructure vote to October, probably knowing that she was going to ***** with the bill between now and then.  That opportunity they wouldn't have happened if Biden's credibility and stature wasn't publicly shot to hell.

 

This is from a week ago:

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-05c4738d9460b8c36a9385bbb42b9c5b

The House plans to vote Monday evening on a procedural measure setting up future debate for the budget resolution, the infrastructure legislation and another Democratic priority restoring federal authority over states’ voting procedures that were curbed by the Supreme Court.

“All three are critical elements of the president’s agenda, and we hope that every Democratic member supports this effort,” said White House deputy press secretary Andrew Bates.

Hoyer said he also wants the House to approve the voting rights measure on Tuesday and wrap up business. That proposed schedule could pressure moderates to support the budget, since sticking to their planned opposition could extend the House’s stay in Washington until the standoff is resolved.

Some moderates hope the chaotic U.S. flight from Afghanistan might prompt Biden to seek a quick accomplishment by reversing course and asking the House to quickly send him the infrastructure legislation. The Senate approved the infrastructure measure last week in a bipartisan vote.

“I think more than ever, if the White House would play this smart, they would get a domestic win right now. And that is, bring up the bipartisan infrastructure bill,” Rep. Henry Cuellar, D-Texas, one of the nine unhappy moderates, said in an interview.

Rep. Katie Porter, D-Calif., a leader of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, said a majority of its nearly 100 members have said in two surveys that they’d oppose the infrastructure measure if it came before the $3.5 trillion measure has progressed.

 

 

What does that article have to do with a budget vote?

Do you have a link to this postponed vote date?

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

If Biden didn't vomit on himself regarding Afghanistan, then Biden's budget would have been passed today.  Instead, some shaky D's on the Hill saw his blunder as an opportunity to flex their voices.  They called out Pelosi on her choice to push off the infrastructure vote to October, probably knowing that she was going to ***** with the bill between now and then.  That opportunity they wouldn't have happened if Biden's credibility and stature wasn't publicly shot to hell.

 

This is from a week ago:

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-business-05c4738d9460b8c36a9385bbb42b9c5b

The House plans to vote Monday evening on a procedural measure setting up future debate for the budget resolution, the infrastructure legislation and another Democratic priority restoring federal authority over states’ voting procedures that were curbed by the Supreme Court.

“All three are critical elements of the president’s agenda, and we hope that every Democratic member supports this effort,” said White House deputy press secretary Andrew Bates.

Hoyer said he also wants the House to approve the voting rights measure on Tuesday and wrap up business. That proposed schedule could pressure moderates to support the budget, since sticking to their planned opposition could extend the House’s stay in Washington until the standoff is resolved.

Some moderates hope the chaotic U.S. flight from Afghanistan might prompt Biden to seek a quick accomplishment by reversing course and asking the House to quickly send him the infrastructure legislation. The Senate approved the infrastructure measure last week in a bipartisan vote.

“I think more than ever, if the White House would play this smart, they would get a domestic win right now. And that is, bring up the bipartisan infrastructure bill,” Rep. Henry Cuellar, D-Texas, one of the nine unhappy moderates, said in an interview.

Rep. Katie Porter, D-Calif., a leader of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, said a majority of its nearly 100 members have said in two surveys that they’d oppose the infrastructure measure if it came before the $3.5 trillion measure has progressed.

 

 

What does that article have to do with a budget vote?

Do you have a link to this postponed vote date?

 

 

 

Sept. 27 final vote is what I’m seeing.

 

That Congressman from NJ is from my hometown district. He’s a doofus. No one seems to know why this group decided to clown themselves on this.

16 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Aren’t you an American? 😳

Russian.

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2 hours ago, Governor said:

I go back and forth with it. I think there’s a $ sweet spot there but I don’t know where it is.

 

Bottom line, no one is paying it back, so we’ll have to clear the books at some point and it should be framed as “boosting the economy.”

 

I don’t like legislation that targets specific groups and leaves others out, like the child tax credit.

 

If they do it, do it across the board and just set the amount somewhere fair.

 

So what's next?  Car loans?  Home loans?  Small business loans?  Why are we even considering allowing people to not keep a contractual promise they made.  Why school loan?  And why not private loans?  Why only public loans.  This is a horrible precedent to set. 

 

And when you say "Bottom line, no one is paying it back"?  What do you mean by this.  

2 hours ago, ALF said:

 

My sons would be real happy with 0% interest

 

What a wonderful way to teach your son how the real world doesn't work.  Bravo! 

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8 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

So what's next?  Car loans?  Home loans?  Small business loans?  Why are we even considering allowing people to not keep a contractual promise they made.  Why school loan?  And why not private loans?  Why only public loans.  This is a horrible precedent to set. 

 

And when you say "Bottom line, no one is paying it back"?  What do you mean by this.  

 

Wouldn't we all. 

We already allow all of those things. It’s called declaring bankruptcy. You can’t do that with student loans.

 

You walked right into that one Chef. 

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