Afghanistan

[Chef Jim]

9 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

The funny part is - this is the second time you made this comment.

 

Unlike you and your sheep - I think for my self.

 

 

Idiots

I think for myself so I’m going to post one of my daily several dozen memes and Twits from other people.  
 

🤦🏻‍♂️

Edited August 21, 2021 by Chef Jim

[TSOL]

This is a pretty cool article if you like kicking ass. 

 

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42075/night-stalker-special-ops-helicopters-now-in-kabul-could-be-critical-to-evacuation

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

9 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

The funny part is - this is the second time you made this comment.

 

Unlike you and your sheep - I think for my self.

 

 

Idiots

So if I have this correct you’re saying I get my talking points from CNN because I get my talking points from FOX News? Brilliant! You’re aware you don’t have to defend your super heroes in the DNC on absolutely everything, right? 

[Tenhigh]

I know it's been used as political sport to make assumptions about the president's mental health, but I am getting increasingly concerned here.  After watching that Stephanopolous interview, he is either losing his mental facility or flat out lying.  I can live with the latter because politicians have been doing it all my life, but I am not comfortable with the former.  

[Doc]

3 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

I know it's been used as political sport to make assumptions about the president's mental health, but I am getting increasingly concerned here.  After watching that Stephanopolous interview, he is either losing his mental facility or flat out lying.  I can live with the latter because politicians have been doing it all my life, but I am not comfortable with the former.  

 

When he couldn't even remember what service his son was in or where he served, it's pretty obvious what the problem is.  And has been, as many having been saying for over a year now.  Choosing someone in their late 70s to lead anything is a bad idea, much less be the leader of the free world.

[Tenhigh]

5 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

When he couldn't even remember what service his son was in or where he served, it's pretty obvious what the problem is.  And has been, as many having been saying for over a year now.  Choosing someone in their late 70s to lead anything is a bad idea, much less be the leader of the free world.

I am curious to hear @oldmanfan's take on this. He seemed pretty sure Biden was still ok last time we discussed.

[All_Pro_Bills]

I'd like to propose a solution to this problem to the President.  I think it will be a quite effective and relatively painless solution.  It doesn't require firing a shot, bombing anybody, or causing any harm to any friend or foe on the ground in Afghanistan.

 

All I ask is to put me in charge for 1 hour.  That's all I think it will take.  And my suggestion just uses a simple tool called root cause analysis.  So the Taliban are running around now, harassing and beating people, killing some, keeping others from getting out.  All because they insist on following Sharia Law.  

But my root cause analysis says the problem is Pakistan.  They're the people aiding and assisting the Taliban for the 20 year period.  Hiding them, giving them aid and assistance.  Using their intelligence agency, ISI, against US forces on the ground.  And the gall of it all is the US bankrolls the Pakistani military along with lots of civilian and military aid.  All this is well known inside our government, the military, and the intelligence agencies.

 

So I'd just get the Pakistani PM on the phone and tell him this crap stops in 30 minute or else.

 

Or else we freeze all military aid

Or else we freeze all civilian aid

Or else we freeze all your financial accounts including yours personally

Or else we block all access to financial trade and reserve settlement transactions

Or else we crash your currency on the markets on Monday

Or else we confiscate all your commercial and government assets at the Federal Reserve and the commercial banking system.

Or else we blockade your ports with our Navy and no ships of any kind get in or out.

 

We want guarantees of safety for all Americans and other foreign nationals and pledges of no harm or retribution to anyone that might have cooperated with us for the 20 year period.  And we want all our planes, vehicles, and other equipment left behind.  And if we find out any of our terms have been violated your ass his history.  Will this work?  I think so.  All that's missing is the will inside the administration to do this.  Problem solved.

Edited August 21, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills

[SCBills]

It’s amusing to watch BlueAnon Democrats on Twitter lose their minds defending Biden. 
 

Excuse after excuse, while throwing temper tantrums at the journalists who they thought were always on their side.  

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

29 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

I am curious to hear @oldmanfan's take on this. He seemed pretty sure Biden was still ok last time we discussed.

I’m not sure if he’s willfully stubborn on this issue or simply in denial.  Biden in recent years is the shell of the person he was even 5 years ago.  Much was made of Trump bullying a painfully dithering Biden in the first debate, but that was Biden’s shtick his entire career—a lovable blustering bully who was full of $&**, knew he was, everyone else knew he was and stayed in his lane.   There was a time when he could have mounted a substantial and sustained defense, but that time was long gone. 
 

Now, he’s out of his lane, he cannot hide behind others to carry the mental torch, he’s been exposed and his capacity to think clearly is diminishing by the hour.    
 

If I was a betting man, I’d say where his support of Biden is concerned, it’s tough to admit he was wrong.  Pride goeth before the fall. 
 

 

Edited August 21, 2021 by leh-nerd skin-erd

[Doc]

26 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

I am curious to hear @oldmanfan's take on this. He seemed pretty sure Biden was still ok last time we discussed.

 

He was rationalizing.  I'm sure he knows Biden's brain is turning to mush.

[SCBills]

Biden told us that Americans aren’t having any issues getting into the airport… except reporting on the ground, first hand witnesses and international journalists all refute that.   
 

Now, today, the US Govt has issued a warning to American Citizens NOT to travel to the airport at this time. 
 

Edited August 21, 2021 by SCBills

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

6 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

He was rationalizing.  I'm sure he knows Biden's brain is turning to mush.

I would have thought that, but Doc, unless I’m Bidening badly, he’s chastised other posters for even discussing Biden’s mental capacity while riffing on how it’s all about the normal effects of aging.  Never mind that the normal effects of aging aren’t necessarily resume fillers on any job with high stress and absolute authority, but jeesh—getting upset because people point out the obvious?  

[SectionC3]

54 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

When he couldn't even remember what service his son was in or where he served, it's pretty obvious what the problem is.  And has been, as many having been saying for over a year now.  Choosing someone in their late 70s to lead anything is a bad idea, much less be the leader of the free world.

 

So I take it you're against Trump running in 2024?  Great news.  Thank you. 

[VaMilBill]

40 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I'd like to propose a solution to this problem to the President.  I think it will be a quite effective and relatively painless solution.  It doesn't require firing a shot, bombing anybody, or causing any harm to any friend or foe on the ground in Afghanistan.

 

All I ask is to put me in charge for 1 hour.  That's all I think it will take.  And my suggestion just uses a simple tool called root cause analysis.  So the Taliban are running around now, harassing and beating people, killing some, keeping others from getting out.  All because they insist on following Sharia Law.  

But my root cause analysis says the problem is Pakistan.  They're the people aiding and assisting the Taliban for the 20 year period.  Hiding them, giving them aid and assistance.  Using their intelligence agency, ISI, against US forces on the ground.  And the gall of it all is the US bankrolls the Pakistani military along with lots of civilian and military aid.  All this is well known inside our government, the military, and the intelligence agencies.

 

So I'd just get the Pakistani PM on the phone and tell him this crap stops in 30 minute or else.

 

Or else we freeze all military aid

Or else we freeze all civilian aid

Or else we freeze all your financial accounts including yours personally

Or else we block all access to financial trade and reserve settlement transactions

Or else we crash your currency on the markets on Monday

Or else we confiscate all your commercial and government assets at the Federal Reserve and the commercial banking system.

Or else we blockade your ports with our Navy and no ships of any kind get in or out.

 

We want guarantees of safety for all Americans and other foreign nationals and pledges of no harm or retribution to anyone that might have cooperated with us for the 20 year period.  And we want all our planes, vehicles, and other equipment left behind.  And if we find out any of our terms have been violated your ass his history.  Will this work?  I think so.  All that's missing is the will inside the administration to do this.  Problem solved.

I do wish we could do that. But one item to consider is all military flights that go into Afghanistan fly over Pakistani airspace. So if we cut aid, etc, they probably don’t let us fly over anymore and we have to find another way in. 

[Westside]

8 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

So I take it you're against Trump running in 2024?  Great news.  Thank you. 

Thanks for your contribution to the discussion billstime.

[Doc]

19 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

So I take it you're against Trump running in 2024?  Great news.  Thank you. 

 

Yup.  That should help prevent you from needing to sleep at night with your teddy bear.

[All_Pro_Bills]

6 minutes ago, VaMilBill said:

I do wish we could do that. But one item to consider is all military flights that go into Afghanistan fly over Pakistani airspace. So if we cut aid, etc, they probably don’t let us fly over anymore and we have to find another way in. 

You're right.  Its a risk vs. risk game.  But if you're the Pakistani's do you want to take the chance of saying "No"?  And what's the political cost of reeling in the Taliban?  Or losing all that aid and seeing your economy decimated over time?  My goal is to suggest "an offer you can't refuse" that has costs so extreme it might be impossible to turn down.  If they want to negotiate a little so everybody saves face or doesn't get too exposed, then sure we could do that.  

 

Maybe some of this is going on behinds the scenes here now. I hope so.  But nothings obvious in what information is publicly available right now.  But when push comes to shove if you're the 800 lb. Gorilla in the jungle you can't sit around and let the little critters push you around.

[BillStime]

53 minutes ago, SCBills said:

It’s amusing to watch BlueAnon Democrats on Twitter lose their minds defending Biden. 
 

Excuse after excuse, while throwing temper tantrums at the journalists who they thought were always on their side.  

 

Thousands and thousands of pages of Trumpholes defending every move that POS took - as he desensitized you on his way to total authoritarian - and you freaks didn't even blink.

 

Get out of here freakshow.

 

[Doc]

Just now, BillStime said:

 

Thousands and thousands of pages of Trumpholes defending every move that POS took - as he desensitized you on his way to total authoritarian - and you freaks didn't even blink.

 

Get out of here freakshow.

 

 

What did he do?  Except trigger you and your ilk into making up ***** about him?

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

What did he do?  Except trigger you and your ilk into making up ***** about him?

 

It's always fake news when you don't like what you hear...

 

TRUMP: 'Remember, what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening'