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All_Pro_Bills Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BillStime said: Kate's an idiot. Or if she believes her own bull crap maybe she can get her ass over there and walk some citizens through those Taliban checkpoints? Do you follow every moron and imbecile on Facebook? Edited August 20, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: 😂😂😂😂 Well that’s just great! He’s REALLY good at losing! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 5 hours ago, BillStime said: Trump adores you GQP Jim Awww that’s sweet I noticed you didn’t defend your Twit as not being a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Doing what the media won’t: Fact-checking Biden’s address on Afghanistan I’m relying on the White House release of Resident Joe Biden’s remarks. Shall we get right to it? CLAIM: “My national security team and I have been closely monitoring the situation on the ground in Afghanistan and moving quickly to execute the plans we had put in place to respond to every constituency, including — and contingency — including the rapid collapse we’re seeing now.” REALITY: Biden Scrapped Trump Afghanistan Rescue Plan. “Raheem Kassam revealed on Wednesday that under President Donald Trump, Mike Pompeo’s State Department had ordered the creation of a ‘Contingency and Crisis Response’ office whose job would be avoiding ‘a future Benghazi-style situation for Americans overseas.’ But while Biden lied to ABC’s George Stephanopoulos on Wednesday that ‘We planned for every contingency,’ behind the scenes, Biden’s State Department had already ‘revoked the funding and the approval’ for Trump’s response team, according to Kassam. I’d also add that had Biden planned for every contingency, things would look several hells of a lot different in Kabul right now. CLAIM: “Today, the terrorist threat has metastasized well beyond Afghanistan: al Shabaab in Somalia, al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, al-Nusra in Syria, ISIS attempting to create a caliphate in Syria and Iraq and establishing affiliates in multiple countries in Africa and Asia. These threats warrant our attention and our resources.” REALITY: A token force at Bagram Air Base in no way removes our ability to keep an eye on things in Somalia, Syria, etc. Closing Bagram Air Base greatly harms our ability to keep an eye on things in Afghanistan. Closing Bagram first also drastically reduced our logistical ability to get our people out, which is why Kabul is such a mess. Also, the resulting intelligence loss greatly assisted in the rapidity of the Taliban takeover. CLAIM: “We’ve developed counterterrorism over-the-horizon capability that will allow us to keep our eyes firmly fixed on any direct threats to the United States in the region and to act quickly and decisively if needed.” REALITY: Afghanistan is landlocked deep in Central Asia. Without at least a token force at Bagram, our ability to respond quickly to fast-moving threats is much slower, and will often require the presence of an aircraft carrier battlegroup that will be kept too busy to deter China. CLAIM: “The choice I had to make, as your President, was either to follow through on [Trump’s] agreement or be prepared to go back to fighting the Taliban in the middle of the spring fighting season.” REALITY: Biden had already broken parts of Trump’s agreement. Regardless, Biden’s quick reversal of virtually every other Trump policy — from canceling border wall construction all the way down to shower head efficiency — puts lie to that claim. CLAIM: “There was only the cold reality of either following through on the agreement to withdraw our forces or escalating the conflict and sending thousands more American troops back into combat in Afghanistan, lurching into the third decade of conflict.” REALITY: Biden’s execution of his non-existent plan was so shoddy that he’s had to order 5,000 troops back into Afghanistan. While not engaged in much combat, that’s to the detriment of our people stranded outside the Kabul airport. Meanwhile, “British and French troops are going out into Kabul to rescue their citizens while the US sticks to the airport.” CLAIM: “I always promised the American people that I will be straight with you. The truth is: This did unfold more quickly than we had anticipated.” REALITY: Biden administration was warned last month of Afghanistan ‘catastrophe.’ “Conflicting with President Biden’s insistence that he had no intelligence indicating Kabul would quickly fall upon the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, Secretary of State Anthony Blinken received a cable in July urging that evacuations be accelerated because the Taliban was quickly gaining ground and the capital was vulnerable to collapse.” CLAIM: “It is wrong to order American troops to step up when Afghanistan’s own armed forces would not. If the political leaders of Afghanistan were unable to come together for the good of their people, unable to negotiate for the future of their country when the chips were down, they would never have done so while U.S. troops remained in Afghanistan bearing the brunt of the fighting for them.” REALITY: The token force left by Trump last year had suffered exactly one combat death. For more perspective, “In the worst year in Afghanistan, 2010, the U.S. suffered 440 troops killed in action. So far this year in Chicago, 480 people have been shot to death.” I remain in favor of pulling out of Afghanistan (except for that token forced stupidly and hurriedly ordered home by Biden), but to claim that staying would mean a bloodbath for us is a lie. CLAIM: “In the coming days, the U.S. military will provide assistance to move more SIV-eligible Afghans and their families out of Afghanistan.” REALITY: As previously noted, those most at-risk can’t be reached since Biden has ordered our troops to remain holed up at the Kabul airport. Meanwhile, “Taliban Going Door-to-Door Executing U.S. Allies” and “Taliban Find A Way to Win Over the Left: Hunting for Christians.” CLAIM: “We’ll also continue to support the safe departure of civilian personnel — the civilian personnel of our Allies who are still serving in Afghanistan. REALITY: Biden Ignored Boris Johnsons’ Frantic Calls for 36 Hours as Bungled Bugout Was Unfolding. “Not only did Presidentish Joe Biden leave UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson in the dark over ‘how it planned to withdraw [and] the pace of its withdrawal’ from Afghanistan, Biden basically ghosted Johnson for 36 hours as the crisis unfolded in Kabul.” CLAIM: “I am President of the United States of America, and the buck stops with me.” REALITY: In today’s speech and in Monday’s, “Biden points fingers for Afghanistan debacle after promising he wouldn’t ‘blame others.’” https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2021/08/20/fact-checking-bidens-address-lies-damned-lies-and-the-white-house-teleprompter-n1471356 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, BillStime said: Great, some moron named Kate agrees with you. What is her experience? Evacuating her bowels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, BillStime said: Putting elegant in quotes (why the single quotation marks is beyond me) does not make the use of that word any less ridiculous. Twit For Brains has been on a tear lately. Edited August 20, 2021 by Chef Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Kate is full of 'elegant." 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, Demongyz said: Great, some moron named Kate agrees with you. What is her experience? Evacuating her bowels? LOL From her site: Kate @ImSpeaking13 Antiracism and human rights advocate. Leadership expert, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 1 minute ago, B-Man said: LOL From her site: Kate @ImSpeaking13 Antiracism and human rights advocate. Leadership expert, Oh, so she is an expert in excrement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 9 hours ago, wnyguy said: If this debacle was all a Trump trap then why did Biden step into it so easily? Because TrumpTrumpTrumpittyTrump (...andPompeo). DUHHHHH!!! 1 hour ago, Demongyz said: Great, some moron named Kate agrees with you. What is her experience? Evacuating her bowels? Evacuating her bowels is more elegant than what's going on in Kabul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Kate's an idiot. Or if she believes her own bull crap maybe she can get her ass over there and walk some citizens through those Taliban checkpoints? Do you follow every moron and imbecile on Facebook? Better than your "reported sources" all_pro_bs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, BillStime said: Better than your "reported sources" all_pro_bs In what way? Please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 23 minutes ago, BillStime said: Better than your "reported sources" all_pro_bs All I'm saying is if you agree with that idiot you might want to re-evaluate your standards for evaluating and grading success and competence. Because from where I sit the entire execution (maybe a bad choice of a word here) of this exit strategy/retreat looks like a complete and total disaster of Biblical proportions. It takes an exceptionally high level of incompetence and stupidity to fail this bad. And anyone believing and suggesting this is some kind of success needs to get the loose screws in their head tightened down a couple turns. If Letterman was still on late night TV doing his top 10's this one would positively make the "top ten screw-ups of all time list". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 What a mess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Chef Jim said: In what way? Please explain. The funny part is that somehow Billstime was actually able to find someone who approves of this debacle. Even CNN has bailed ship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Shocked - absolutely shocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, BillStime said: Shocked - absolutely shocked That is such crappy spin. There's not handing out visas to just everybody from that region for good reason! They have to be careful about whole let in here from Iraq and Afghanistan, that's why it takes so long. Oh and yeah, here's this 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 38 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: The funny part is that somehow Billstime was actually able to find someone who approves of this debacle. Even CNN has bailed ship! The funny part is - this is the second time you made this comment. Unlike you and your sheep - I think for my self. Idiots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeBills Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 minute ago, BillStime said: The funny part is - this is the second time you made this comment. Unlike you and your sheep - I think for my self. Idiots This is me saying that I'm really glad you're/this is just one person, cause whoa if this was a movement. Scary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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