Tenhigh Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 37 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: After 20 years of financing Afghani rebels (taliban) in their fight against Russia over oil and minerals, Russia gave up and short time later the US uses terrorists as an excuse to fight the same group. 1989 to 2001 is 12 years by my math. Short time in who's book?
TSOL Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, SCBills said: This is truly bizarre and has a feel to it like somebody is setting somebody up for something. I can't imagine our countrys military with so many vast resources and intelligence being so incompetent and buffoonish. There MUST be ulterior motives for the way this is playing out.
Doc Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, TSOL said: This is truly bizarre and has a feel to it like somebody is setting somebody up for something. I can't imagine our countrys military with so many vast resources and intelligence being so incompetent and buffoonish. There MUST be ulterior motives for the way this is playing out. They're likely to vote Republican? Edited August 18, 2021 by Doc
sherpa Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 27 minutes ago, TSOL said: This is truly bizarre and has a feel to it like somebody is setting somebody up for something. I can't imagine our countrys military with so many vast resources and intelligence being so incompetent and buffoonish. There MUST be ulterior motives for the way this is playing out. Nonsense.
716er Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Chef Jim said: I have yet to lose dude. LOL You spend most of your time in PPP You already lost 1 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Bidens_basement said: The blood is in bidens hands. He owns this catastrophe!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬 Saigon 2.0 or Saigon "on steroids" to plagiarize the President's perspective on another topic. Worse than the humiliating optics of Revolutionary Guard "students" marching US Embassy personal through the streets of Tehran.
Big Blitz Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 This country is going to be beaming with such pride on September 11th.
sherpa Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said: After 20 years of financing Afghani rebels (taliban) in their fight against Russia over oil and minerals, Russia gave up and short time later the US uses terrorists as an excuse to fight the same group. Incorrect. 1
snafu Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said: After 20 years of financing Afghani rebels (taliban) in their fight against Russia over oil and minerals, Russia gave up and short time later the US uses terrorists as an excuse to fight the same group. The Mujahideen are not the Taliban. Not the same group. Who was fighting Russia over oil and minerals? The US and about 40 other countries used "terrorists as an excuse" after 9/11/2001, when those very "terrorists" claimed refuge in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan. You can rightly complain about the cost and the mistakes made across four separate US administrations, but at least get your facts straight.
SCBills Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 Biden refuses to take questions after his booster shot presser. Pathetic. 2
wnyguy Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Biden refuses to take questions after his booster shot presser. Pathetic. And this is the guy who allegedly got the most votes in US history. This guy. 2
Niagara Bill Posted August 18, 2021 Author Posted August 18, 2021 26 minutes ago, snafu said: The Mujahideen are not the Taliban. Not the same group. Who was fighting Russia over oil and minerals? The US and about 40 other countries used "terrorists as an excuse" after 9/11/2001, when those very "terrorists" claimed refuge in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan. You can rightly complain about the cost and the mistakes made across four separate US administrations, but at least get your facts straight. Love how everyone wants to debate small details when the overarching issue it doesn't matter. Different name, same group of terrorists. Same goal, same results. Same bs. The US spend 20 years, Russians spend 12 to 20 then turned the battle over to US. Both superpowers (laughable term after the results) spent trillions....more than just chasing Osama.,follow the money....military contractors and ex-generals getting rich. Socialism for the defence industry, at its best.🙂🙂🙂🙂
Chef Jim Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, 716er said: You spend most of your time banging your head against the wall debating with @BillStime You already lost Good point. 1 hour ago, SCBills said: So we have a cargo plane depart loaded with Afghani refugees but leave Americans stranded. ***** beautiful.
BillStime Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Hey Billstime ... you really need to learn when to STFU. There isn't even any one at CNN defending the Biden Administration on this one. Oh yea precious? I’m not defending anyone - just highlighting inconvenient facts.
snafu Posted August 18, 2021 Posted August 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Love how everyone wants to debate small details when the overarching issue it doesn't matter. Different name, same group of terrorists. Same goal, same results. Same bs. The US spend 20 years, Russians spend 12 to 20 then turned the battle over to US. Both superpowers (laughable term after the results) spent trillions....more than just chasing Osama.,follow the money....military contractors and ex-generals getting rich. Socialism for the defence industry, at its best.🙂🙂🙂🙂 I'll give you this -- too much time was wasted and too much money was spent. And the mission changed from "Chasing Osama". Other than that, you've typed mostly senseless blabber. And why haggle over facts, right? One other thing. We kicked the ***** out of the Taliban. They fled to their hidey holes in Pakistan, and we weren't chasing them over the border. Then in 2014 we turned over the reigns to the Afghans and things eventually went to *****. It took seven years with just a small US force in the country, but the Taliban was gaining land all the time. Anyone paying attention could have seen this coming. That's why Biden screwed the withdrawal up so badly.
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