IgotBILLStopay Posted August 5, 2021 Posted August 5, 2021 Will get some idea of roster battles for ST spots hopefully. Sry Yolo started the thread since I didnt find one yet
YoloinOhio Posted August 5, 2021 Posted August 5, 2021 Ahhhhhhhh! I’m not sure what to do with my hands. just kidding 14 1
YattaOkasan Posted August 5, 2021 Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) I am coming around to McKenzie being return guy. Mostly cause of the improvements hes shown as a receiver. If hes committed to returns in that way then I think he may have learned a lot from Roberts last 2 years. Edited August 5, 2021 by YattaOkasan 1
IgotBILLStopay Posted August 5, 2021 Author Posted August 5, 2021 Both Powell and Stevenson have had ball security issues - so it is understandable that the job is McKenzie's to lose.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 5, 2021 Posted August 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Did anyone else ask him how many other players he’ll get to tag and keep on the roster because they’re better special teamers, ahead of younger players we can develop or players who may contribute more at their offensive or defensive positions? Nah, that’s loaded. I’m not sure tagging McKenzie as the “Front Runner” will get the McBeane Seal of Approval on the competition front. Edit: It sounds as though we can pencil in Bam Johnson and Reggie Gilliam, ahead of perhaps Obada or Zimmer who might do more for the defense. Did he mention Taiwan Jones? Siran Neal sounds like he’s Earning his Stripes on Defense, so no problem with him. And truthfully have no problem keeping Gilliam - I though he contributed when called upon on offense last season and our TE room is thin. 1
Solomon Grundy Posted August 5, 2021 Posted August 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said: Both Powell and Stevenson have had ball security issues - so it is understandable that the job is McKenzie's to lose. It seems, to me, that McKenzie may have more "game break" ability than Andre Roberts did 7 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 5, 2021 Posted August 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said: It seems, to me, that McKenzie may have more "game break" ability than Andre Roberts did I dunno about that, but it’s a fact that Roberts gave us poor field position sometimes by trying - brought the ball out when he shouldn’t - and his 3 lost fumbles hurt us. 1 1 3
YoloinOhio Posted August 5, 2021 Posted August 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Did anyone else ask him how many other players he’ll get to tag and keep on the roster because they’re better special teamers, ahead of younger players we can develop or players who may contribute more at their offensive or defensive positions? Nah, that’s loaded. I’m not sure tagging McKenzie as the “Front Runner” will get the McBeane Seal of Approval on the competition front. Edit: It sounds as though we can pencil in Bam Johnson and Reggie Gilliam, ahead of perhaps Obada or Zimmer who might do more for the defense. Did he mention Taiwan Jones? Siran Neal sounds like he’s Earning his Stripes on Defense, so no problem with him. And truthfully have no problem keeping Gilliam - I though he contributed when called upon on offense last season and our TE room is thin. I did not see a mention of Taiwan Jones but I didn’t hear the interview live
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 5, 2021 Posted August 5, 2021 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I did not see a mention of Taiwan Jones but I didn’t hear the interview live Thank you for the kind answer to a decidedly snarky post. Just want to throw @GunnerBill’s excellent post about special teams roles and who filled them last season/might fill them this next season here for reference. https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/233173-53-man-roster-projection-after-otaminicamp/page/4/ Edit: this goes to the right page of the right thread, I’ll try to fix it later from my ‘puter
Shaw66 Posted August 5, 2021 Posted August 5, 2021 Admittedly, I have not been a McKenzie fan, but it's certainly sounding like he's the guy. I am a big Roberts fan. More so than almost any other position, punt returning is an instinct skill, instinct and quickness. Roberts has the instinct; I don't see it in McKenzie. George Saimes had the instinct. Roscoe Parish did. Hyde has the instinct but not the high-end quickness or speed McKenzie has. McKenzie is fast, he can change direction, but he doesn't seem to anticipate the openings the way Roberts did. And I don't buy the criticism of Roberts making bad judgments on kickoffs. Roberts very clearly did what he was told to do - NOBODY plays for McDermott who doesn't do what he's coached. So when Roberts brought the ball out of the end zone, he did because he was told he could do it if he saw certain things. When he saw those things, he went. If he misread something, it showed up in the film and they coached him. He wasn't a loose cannon back there. But having said all that, my worst-case view of McKenzie returning kicks is that he's serviceable. He was a better receiver last season than in previous years, and it sounds like he's still learning in both roles. 2 3
BillsShredder83 Posted August 5, 2021 Posted August 5, 2021 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: side note here.... i need that shirt!!!!!!!! 2
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 5, 2021 Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: So it will be interesting to see where he shows up on Saturday
Blank Stare Posted August 5, 2021 Posted August 5, 2021 I was kind of hoping that Stevenson would win the returner job. I think there is still time for that to happen if he shows well in preseason. It has nothing to do with McKenzie, who I think should make the team. It has more to do with finding a way to stash and develop Stevenson. Sprinkle him in on offense occasionally and see how he grows. He had injuries in college, but the dude was pretty electric with the ball in his hands. Good problems to have, but just highlights how tough it’s going to be to make this roster. 1 1
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