YoloinOhio Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 8 hours ago, NobesBLO13 said: Man, they’re really not taking Kelvin Benjamin being cut very well. KB was the glue for that team 5 1
HOUSE Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 Unless I see actual footage of the brawl then it didn't happen 1
Thurman#1 Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: They are football players and since they were kids been ingrained in them to do whatever the coach says.. True, and maybe it's also true that they are saying to themselves, "Did I really do that? Jump onto a pile with a guy with a red jersey under it? What the hell is wrong with me? I deserve this and so do we all. Jeez, that was stupid." I'm willing to believe that Judge isn't a good coach, but there's too little evidence to say that so far, IMO. Edited August 4, 2021 by Thurman#1 1
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: KB was the glue for that team "Really tied that team together, did he not..."
Commish Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 Based on the Giant's message boards, their fans think the fight and subsequent punishment are just great, and a sign of a promising season🤔 2
sherpa Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: "Really tied that team together, did he not..." He did. They went from red hot to zero degrees Kelvin. (I'll find my way out) 5
machine gun kelly Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 2 hours ago, HOUSE said: Unless I see actual footage of the brawl then it didn't happen You’re the tree in the forest guy. 2 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: True, and maybe it's also true that they are saying to themselves, "Did I really do that? Jump onto a pile with a guy with a red jersey under it? What the hell is wrong with me? I deserve this and so do we all. Jeez, that was stupid." I'm willing to believe that Judge isn't a good coach, but there's too little evidence to say that so far, IMO. Funny of this we’re the Bills, I honestly believe the O and D Line would be beating each other up just to get Allen out of there. Mongo would’ve gone nuts! It’s actually a testament to our players and coaches there has been so little skirmishes amongst the guys as Sal seems to say almost daily the energy level is so high. Supposedly the competitive practices is the usual times where fights start. Remember two years ago when we and the Panthers mucked it up a little.
PatsFanNH Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: True, and maybe it's also true that they are saying to themselves, "Did I really do that? Jump onto a pile with a guy with a red jersey under it? What the hell is wrong with me? I deserve this and so do we all. Jeez, that was stupid." I'm willing to believe that Judge isn't a good coach, but there's too little evidence to say that so far, IMO. Judge MAY be a terrible HC! I don’t know but IMO the punishment definitely equals the crime. Like you said the players probably agreed, and couldn’t believe how stupid they were.. after all they are all brothers.
RobbRiddick Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 18 hours ago, NobesBLO13 said: Man, they’re really not taking Kelvin Benjamin being cut very well. I think that's only because he took their snacks home with him 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 55 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: You’re the tree in the forest guy. Funny of this we’re the Bills, I honestly believe the O and D Line would be beating each other up just to get Allen out of there. Mongo would’ve gone nuts! It’s actually a testament to our players and coaches there has been so little skirmishes amongst the guys as Sal seems to say almost daily the energy level is so high. Supposedly the competitive practices is the usual times where fights start. Remember two years ago when we and the Panthers mucked it up a little. The thing is, we may have had as much of a “brawl” when Ed Oliver and Spencer Brown went at it: The differences being: 1) Allen wasn’t involved, which is a testament to either his good sense or his teammates holding “The Franchise” out of it 2) The players evidently broke it up themselves pretty quickly. Ed Oliver referred to it as “just a little scuffle, competition, you know” and said “we might go eat together”. Anything the coaches had to say about it was left private. I can’t help wondering if Joe Judge magnified and focused attention on it by his reaction vs. keeping the coaches focus on what the players are doing right 2
Rochesterfan Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I heard 'Zo Alexander talk about the Myles Garrett incident and how "all you see is red" at times like that and what really holds you back are your teammates bear hugging you and physically walking you away. So if it were really a melee, and Josh jumped into it, I think tempers would be so hot that respect level wouldn't matter. The difference seems to be when a couple players get into it at our training camp as has happened at least 2x now, other players step in quickly to break it up. It's not the respect for the QB that's the difference (though, when cool headed of course you're right they respect him). It's having player leaders at each position who act effectively to keep a lid on things. Totally agree, but in a single team practice - tempers just should not run that high - compared to a division rival late in the season. Guys should be able to control it to various levels. With his competitive streak - I could see Josh jumping in and going at it and taking the situation up a notch, but again in practice these guys all seem to up the intensity without some of the crazy. You typically get a couple of linemen going at it or a wr/cb in single issues, but nothing this full blown. Edited August 4, 2021 by Rochesterfan
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, RobbRiddick said: I think that's only because he took their snacks home with him
NobesBLO13 Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The thing is, we may have had as much of a “brawl” when Ed Oliver and Spencer Brown went at it: The differences being: 1) Allen wasn’t involved, which is a testament to either his good sense or his teammates holding “The Franchise” out of it 2) The players evidently broke it up themselves pretty quickly. Ed Oliver referred to it as “just a little scuffle, competition, you know” and said “we might go eat together”. Anything the coaches had to say about it was left private. I can’t help wondering if Joe Judge magnified and focused attention on it by his reaction vs. keeping the coaches focus on what the players are doing right Agreed on Judge’s behavior. In a general sense I also think it could look differently from the outside for a team that’s been successful vs not. We’ve made the playoffs 3 of 4, AFCCG, etc. with McDermott vs the Giants’ recent struggles. Edited August 4, 2021 by NobesBLO13
Warcodered Posted August 4, 2021 Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: The thing is, we may have had as much of a “brawl” when Ed Oliver and Spencer Brown went at it: The differences being: 1) Allen wasn’t involved, which is a testament to either his good sense or his teammates holding “The Franchise” out of it 2) The players evidently broke it up themselves pretty quickly. Ed Oliver referred to it as “just a little scuffle, competition, you know” and said “we might go eat together”. Anything the coaches had to say about it was left private. I can’t help wondering if Joe Judge magnified and focused attention on it by his reaction vs. keeping the coaches focus on what the players are doing right I think we've seen it on occasion when a scuffle breaks out in a game Josh's teammates are mindful to get out of the area.
eball Posted August 5, 2021 Posted August 5, 2021 20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: What’s with this guy Can’t wait to see the Giants crash and burn in a blaze of Joe Judge insanity. 1
Captain Hindsight Posted August 5, 2021 Posted August 5, 2021 Daniel Jones is such a weird QB. He is talented and a good Athlete. He will make these eye popping throws and great runs then trip over himself and fumble or throw a horrible pick Every time I watch him I am both impressed and wondering how he is in the league
YoloinOhio Posted August 5, 2021 Posted August 5, 2021 28 minutes ago, eball said: Can’t wait to see the Giants crash and burn in a blaze of Joe Judge insanity. This guy sees one giants practice and is like oh hell naw
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 5, 2021 Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: What’s with this guy 1
DCofNC Posted August 5, 2021 Posted August 5, 2021 Sounds like they need to send Engram out of town, can’t have those retaliatory type of actions, send him to WNY for a 5th, we’ll rehab him. 1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said: Daniel Jones is such a weird QB. He is talented and a good Athlete. He will make these eye popping throws and great runs then trip over himself and fumble or throw a horrible pick Every time I watch him I am both impressed and wondering how he is in the league He’s a classic example of an over drafted player with “Potential”. He is exactly what I was afraid we got when we drafted JA. Most end up more like Jones than reaching their potential. I hope the kid finds it this year and does well. The odds are against him, hope it works out for him.
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