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On 8/19/2021 at 1:13 PM, That's No Moon said:

T Andre Dillard could be available from the Eagles.  He's been disappointing for them but he's a heckuva lot better than Bobby Hart.  I'd be curious about the cost because it can't be very high.

It's weird because going into camp, I felt like the Bills had good depth on the O-line.  Now, Bobby Hart might be the 4th best tackle on the roster.  So any injury to the top 3 is concerning.  Although I would hope they play Bates ahead of Bobby Hart.  They could be searching the waiver wire after all.    Really it would be a shame for Bobby Hart to take a roster spot, considering some quality players that will be cut at other positions.    

 

 Now with Lamp to IR, Guard depth doesn't look great either.

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16 minutes ago, Reks Ryan said:

It's weird because going into camp, I felt like the Bills had good depth on the O-line.  Now, Bobby Hart might be the 4th best tackle on the roster.  So any injury to the top 3 is concerning.  Although I would hope they play Bates ahead of Bobby Hart.  They could be searching the waiver wire after all.    Really it would be a shame for Bobby Hart to take a roster spot, considering some quality players that will be cut at other positions.    

 

 Now with Lamp to IR, Guard depth doesn't look great either.

How does guard depth change with Lamp on IR?  Boettger and Bates were/are our best 2 backup interior guys, regardless of Lamp being healthy.

 

Someone trading for Dillard is looking for a starter, not to make him their 4th tackle.  just my opinion

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8 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

How does guard depth change with Lamp on IR?  Boettger and Bates were/are our best 2 backup interior guys, regardless of Lamp being healthy.

 

Someone trading for Dillard is looking for a starter, not to make him their 4th tackle.  just my opinion

Based on his play if you are trading for Dillard it's not to start, at least not immediately.

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6 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

Jags are really bad in all phases.

I’m not calling Lawrence a bust by any stretch, but I think the NFL is going to be a bigger adjustment than most assumed as well, especially playing on the Jags. Football was just too easy for Lawrence on that stacked Clemson team. I’m interested in seeing how he responds to struggles. 

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3 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

I’m not calling Lawrence a bust by any stretch, but I think the NFL is going to be a bigger adjustment than most assumed as well, especially playing on the Jags. Football was just too easy for Lawrence on that stacked Clemson team. I’m interested in seeing how he responds to struggles. 

I mean it's not really his fault but facing adversity was always a big question with him.

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3 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

I’m not calling Lawrence a bust by any stretch, but I think the NFL is going to be a bigger adjustment than most assumed as well, especially playing on the Jags. Football was just too easy for Lawrence on that stacked Clemson team. I’m interested in seeing how he responds to struggles. 

He seems very laid back. His coach, however, is not. They are a match made in hell. 

These jags unis are really ugly. 

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18 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

I’m not calling Lawrence a bust by any stretch, but I think the NFL is going to be a bigger adjustment than most assumed as well, especially playing on the Jags. Football was just too easy for Lawrence on that stacked Clemson team. I’m interested in seeing how he responds to struggles. 

 

Yeah, he looks rather average.  Notice he retreats backwards out of trouble making his throws even farther.  He needs to corect that.

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1 hour ago, MasterStrategist said:

How does guard depth change with Lamp on IR?  Boettger and Bates were/are our best 2 backup interior guys, regardless of Lamp being healthy.

 

Someone trading for Dillard is looking for a starter, not to make him their 4th tackle.  just my opinion

Coming in to camp, I thought Lamp

had a good chance to emerge as one of the top 3 guards with an

outside chance to start.  Ahead of Ford and Boettger.  
 

Similar to tackle, there are only 3 roster worthy players at guard, plus Bates.   Now that Lamp is on IR it looks like the Bills have 8 lineman worthy of making an active 53 for an NFL team

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2 hours ago, Reks Ryan said:

It's weird because going into camp, I felt like the Bills had good depth on the O-line.  Now, Bobby Hart might be the 4th best tackle on the roster.  So any injury to the top 3 is concerning.  Although I would hope they play Bates ahead of Bobby Hart.  They could be searching the waiver wire after all.    Really it would be a shame for Bobby Hart to take a roster spot, considering some quality players that will be cut at other positions.    

 

 Now with Lamp to IR, Guard depth doesn't look great either.

 

The Bills will probably have mostly the same 9 OL this year as they had last year, save for replacing Nsekhe with Brown and Winters with another strict OG.  So tackle depth will not have changed.

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14 minutes ago, Reks Ryan said:

Coming in to camp, I thought Lamp

had a good chance to emerge as one of the top 3 guards with an

outside chance to start.  Ahead of Ford and Boettger.  
 

Similar to tackle, there are only 3 roster worthy players at guard, plus Bates.   Now that Lamp is on IR it looks like the Bills have 8 lineman worthy of making an active 53 for an NFL team

Forest Lamp would have been a nice story, but he has been injured his whole NFL career (except last season) and didn't exactly play well.  He signed a 1 yr, 1m contract to come here...hardly anything.

 

Doyle will be fine as our 9th lineman, or perhaps they consider keeping Douglas and having Bates as the 4th tackle and Jack of all trades backup.  Not worried.

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20 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The Bills will probably have mostly the same 9 OL this year as they had last year, save for replacing Nsekhe with Brown and Winters with another strict OG.  So tackle depth will not have changed.

I agree that they’ll keep 9. It’s just that IMO they only have 8 NFL active roster quality lineman.  So they should be on the lookout for someone like Dilliard who has upside, I’m thinking a waiver wire player more than trade.  
 

Anyway, they’ll probably keep Doyle due to draft status.  So let’s hope he develops. 

24 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Forest Lamp would have been a nice story, but he has been injured his whole NFL career (except last season) and didn't exactly play well.  He signed a 1 yr, 1m contract to come here...hardly anything.

 

Doyle will be fine as our 9th lineman, or perhaps they consider keeping Douglas and having Bates as the 4th tackle and Jack of all trades backup.  Not worried.

Let’s hope this is a moot point. It only becomes a concern if multiple interior lineman or multiple tackles go down.  Otherwise they should be fine.

 

But it is interesting from the stand point of who makes the opening day roster.

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23 minutes ago, Reks Ryan said:

I agree that they’ll keep 9. It’s just that IMO they only have 8 NFL active roster quality lineman.  So they should be on the lookout for someone like Dilliard who has upside, I’m thinking a waiver wire player more than trade.  
 

Anyway, they’ll probably keep Doyle due to draft status.  So let’s hope he develops.

 

Again, last year their OT depth was Dawkins, Williams, Nsekhe, Bates and Ford (Morse, Feliciano, Winters and Boettger were strictly OGs/OCs).  They'll replace Nsekhe with Spencer Brown and lose no tackle depth, unless you think that Brown isn't active roster quality, something with which I'd disagree.  And I suppose they could replace Winters with Doyle, although I don't know if he can play OG.  And he/whoever replaces Winters would be the inactive guy.

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55 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Again, last year their OT depth was Dawkins, Williams, Nsekhe, Bates and Ford (Morse, Feliciano, Winters and Boettger were strictly OGs/OCs).  They'll replace Nsekhe with Spencer Brown and lose no tackle depth, unless you think that Brown isn't active roster quality, something with which I'd disagree.  And I suppose they could replace Winters with Doyle, although I don't know if he can play OG.  And he/whoever replaces Winters would be the inactive guy.

What about Jack “Baby Richie Incognito” Anderson? I realize he was only a late round pick, but he is one of their recent draft picks which they’ve been partial to historically. I’ve heard almost nothing about him in camp. Likely a PS guy his first year, but maybe he factors into a deep depth guard spot. 

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6 minutes ago, TheProcess said:

What about Jack “Baby Richie Incognito” Anderson? I realize he was only a late round pick, but he is one of their recent draft picks which they’ve been partial to historically. I’ve heard almost nothing about him in camp. Likely a PS guy his first year, but maybe he factors into a deep depth guard spot. 

 

He hasn't looked too good in the preseason games.  He looks like a guy who needs time to develop.  PS candidate.

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On 8/19/2021 at 6:12 PM, YoloinOhio said:

Whatever happened to old Manish. 

Where to begin...

 

Well he was allegedly running an Adam Gase burner account on Twitter.  His press credentials were pulled by the Jets. Then he got creative in covering the team without any access and was fired.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexreimer/2020/01/02/adam-gase-twitter-burner-account-controversy-is-reminder-to-log-off-social-media/?sh=77f67a0362af

 

https://awfulannouncing.com/newspapers/manish-mehta-fired-by-new-york-daily-news-after-being-removed-from-jets-beat.html

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5 hours ago, SirAndrew said:

I’m not calling Lawrence a bust by any stretch, but I think the NFL is going to be a bigger adjustment than most assumed as well, especially playing on the Jags. Football was just too easy for Lawrence on that stacked Clemson team. I’m interested in seeing how he responds to struggles. 

 

I feel like Lawrence will have a Matt Ryan type career. A very good QB who flirts with being elite. Not saying they are the same kind of player but just that type of career trajectory. Which isn't a bad thing necessarily. 

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