Patrick Duffy Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 35 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said: PFF rated Devin Singletary the NFL's best pass protecting rb with a grade of 92.1 I believe Zack Moss fared well in pass protection as well, but may not have been trusted as much due to being a rookie and not having OTA's last year. Yeah he did very well pass blocking. Was very reliable with it. Yeah Moss was still fresh and new. Think he will do well also this season with pass protection.
Doc Brown Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said: Prefer neither - I think they should utilize them as needed as part of the game plan for the week. I like both Moss and Singletary and prefer to have Moss going against heavy blitz teams to pick up attackers - want Singletary against teams that play off more - I think even with his struggles he is better than Moss on pass routes. As far as running either is fine - both have strengths and weaknesses depending upon blocking scheme. This. I voted for Moss to punish Singletary for that drop against the Chiefs but the allotment of playing time will be influenced by Daboll's game plan each week. Also, it's sometimes just a matter of riding the hot hand. Regardless, I don't expect either to get above 65% of the RB carries. Edited July 28, 2021 by Doc Brown 1
artmalibu Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 I think it will be more of a RB by committee deal this year.
GunnerBill Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 Of the two Moss. But they have to be running back by committee and use the two of them plus Breida wisely over the course of the year. The question is can they find a way to have all 3 active on gameday? Their general approach last year was Singletary and Moss plus Taiwan Jones as starting gunner and emergency 3rd back.
PrimeTime101 Posted July 28, 2021 Author Posted July 28, 2021 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Of the two Moss. But they have to be running back by committee and use the two of them plus Breida wisely over the course of the year. The question is can they find a way to have all 3 active on gameday? Their general approach last year was Singletary and Moss plus Taiwan Jones as starting gunner and emergency 3rd back. 100% agree, It will be a mix bag this year unless one of them really starts to shine.
Nelius Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 I think you got to give Singletary the lion's share until he fails. The general sense seems to be that he's just not the guy, and that may be so, but he's averaged 4.8 ypc in his career, great pass blocking, is tough as nails, etc. It's very possible that he's pretty good but just hasn't had the chance to really put up gaudy stats consistently yet. He only saw 10-15 touches most games last year, I love Moss's potential, but I think you need to squeeze Devin for all he's got this year. If he's mediocre this season then move on, maybe even pivot more to Moss a handful of games in. 1 1
GunnerBill Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 54 minutes ago, Nelius said: I think you got to give Singletary the lion's share until he fails. The general sense seems to be that he's just not the guy, and that may be so, but he's averaged 4.8 ypc in his career, great pass blocking, is tough as nails, etc. It's very possible that he's pretty good but just hasn't had the chance to really put up gaudy stats consistently yet. He only saw 10-15 touches most games last year, I love Moss's potential, but I think you need to squeeze Devin for all he's got this year. If he's mediocre this season then move on, maybe even pivot more to Moss a handful of games in. Take out Devin's first 5 career games and his average is rather more pedestrian. Once teams got film on his dancing behind the line he has not really been that effective. 1
Nelius Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Take out Devin's first 5 career games and his average is rather more pedestrian. Once teams got film on his dancing behind the line he has not really been that effective. Fair enough, I appreciate the insight. I think you're right, although he did see some random decent ypc spikes last year and still finished with 4.4. I mean 4.4 ypc is Ezekiel Elliott for the past 3 years! Jokes aside, Singletary's kind of a weird back, going through his game log is kind of like 1 step forward, 1 or .75 steps back, repeatedly for 2 years now. It's enough to be skeptical, granted, but also enough to just throw him to the wolves in year 3 and see what happens, imo.
Bad Things Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 Motor showed some beautiful things his rookie year. I'm expecting to see way more of that. When the kid can get through his initial blocks, he's very exciting to watch. Motorin'!
machine gun kelly Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 Since we seem to run by committee, the question I have is who will be the 1-2 punch. Singletary, Moss, Breida? I definitely want to see more from A. Williams. Let them duke it out in camp. I don’t have preconceived notions, as no one lit it up except for a handful of plays out of Williams.
Chandler#81 Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 Yet another lame thread. Day 1 of training camp and THIS is your topic choice, @PrimeTime101?? 🤦♂️ 1 1 1
PrimeTime101 Posted July 28, 2021 Author Posted July 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Yet another lame thread. Day 1 of training camp and THIS is your topic choice, @PrimeTime101?? 🤦♂️ ok. lets see you do better. 2
YoloinOhio Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 I don’t think there will be a clear #1/bellcow RB. Daboll comes from NE where they use RBBC
ghostwriter Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 One could argue that RB is the Achilles heel of our offense depending on how you feel about Knox and the TE position. Neither Singletary nor Moss are guys I’d pay big money to. Sure, they’re serviceable, adequate and decent but they’re not elite talents. I do like Singletary’s running style though and Moss runs hard but Buffalo could benefit from upgrading the RB position. 1
BarleyNY Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 If we are going to do more zone blocking then Moss is the better fit. That might be game plan dependent though.
BigBuff423 Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 I've participated in this Poll, but honestly the simple answer: whomever earns it.
PrimeTime101 Posted July 28, 2021 Author Posted July 28, 2021 36 minutes ago, BigBuff423 said: I've participated in this Poll, but honestly the simple answer: whomever earns it. agree 1
Hebert19 Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 I will say moss looked a little leaner entering building yesterday. I like the way he runs and maybe carrying a little less weight will increase his quickness. Think moss is our guy this year. 1 hour ago, Victory Formation said: One could argue that RB is the Achilles heel of our offense depending on how you feel about Knox and the TE position. Neither Singletary nor Moss are guys I’d pay big money to. Sure, they’re serviceable, adequate and decent but they’re not elite talents. I do like Singletary’s running style though and Moss runs hard but Buffalo could benefit from upgrading the RB position. With Josh I would never pay big dollars to a RB. 3rd or 4th rounders every 2 years and hope they stick. 1
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