It's Time to Mandate Vaccines

[Orlando Buffalo]

1 hour ago, Sundancer said:

 

What level of antibodies--assuming you took one of the tests that measures antibody level--would show that you don't need the vaccine? Surely since this is your hypothesis, you know the number. And as a follow-up, at what rate does that level wane, because clearly you would not want to rely on that test forever? 

 

OK, define a super spreader event. Beach said he attended one. His definition of any event where people gather to support Trump is actually pretty good. My definition is any event that annoys mask-wearing leftists. But you seem to have the "simple concept" locked up. What is the scientific definition for this "simple concept?" 

 

 The original post in regards to antibodies I posted stated that we should be looking into what ever number that is needed for protection, but we are not currently. Reading comprehension should be your first course of action. Also your definition of a super spreader event is incorrect both in actual definition and how it is used by media. The real definition is an event or location at which a significant number of people contract the same communicable disease. The media uses it to blame conservatives for Covid. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

18 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Fair for the west to be accused of vaccine hoarding. Here we are giving healthy 30 year olds booster shots. Even the WHO felt that was the worst use of vaccines. 

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Fair for the west to be accused of vaccine hoarding. Here we are giving healthy 30 year olds booster shots. Even the WHO felt that was the worst use of vaccines. 

Every variant thus far has originated outside of the United States, but if we could just get our entire population vaxxed, masked and constantly boosted, we’d be ok… right?… RIGHT!?

 

For a group of people with such a superiority complex over their self-righteous covid measures, they sure seem willfully ignorant of how viruses act in a global community.  

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

Every variant thus far has originated outside of the United States, but if we could just get our entire population vaxxed, masked and constantly boosted, we’d be ok… right?… RIGHT!?

 

For a group of people with such a superiority complex over their self-righteous covid measures, they sure seem willfully ignorant of how viruses act in a global community.  

If everyone would stay home and isolate for two weeks, remain 6 to 12 feet away from all other family and household members, follow specific kitchen and bathroom schedules so they remain alone, and breath in and out from different exterior windows we might beat this thing. 

[Sundancer]

1 hour ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

 The original post in regards to antibodies I posted stated that we should be looking into what ever number that is needed for protection, but we are not currently. Reading comprehension should be your first course of action.
 

 

So wait. You want to test for antibody levels to determine a level of immunity when we don’t know what level of antibodies confers immunity. 
 

Perfect Timmy. Just perfect. 
 

1 hour ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

 

 

Also your definition of a super spreader event is incorrect both in actual definition and how it is used by media. The real definition is an event or location at which a significant number of people contract the same communicable disease. The media uses it to blame conservatives for Covid. 

Oh ok. So there are no super spreader events until we know a “significant” number of people catch Covid from it. 
 

Hahaha. You’re so careless with your words Timmy. Give up. 

1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Fair for the west to be accused of vaccine hoarding. Here we are giving healthy 30 year olds booster shots. Even the WHO felt that was the worst use of vaccines. 

Truth. We should have started vaccinating elsewhere once we did our at risk people but we’ve taken a different America First approach. 

[Irv]

56 minutes ago, Sundancer said:

 

So wait. You want to test for antibody levels to determine a level of immunity when we don’t know what level of antibodies confers immunity. 
 

Perfect Timmy. Just perfect. 
 

Oh ok. So there are no super spreader events until we know a “significant” number of people catch Covid from it. 
 

Hahaha. You’re so careless with your words Timmy. Give up. 

Truth. We should have started vaccinating elsewhere once we did our at risk people but we’ve taken a different America First approach. 

America First?  Not Demented Biden. 

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

5 hours ago, Sundancer said:

 

So wait. You want to test for antibody levels to determine a level of immunity when we don’t know what level of antibodies confers immunity. 
 

Perfect Timmy. Just perfect. 
 

Oh ok. So there are no super spreader events until we know a “significant” number of people catch Covid from it. 
 

Hahaha. You’re so careless with your words Timmy. Give up. 

Truth. We should have started vaccinating elsewhere once we did our at risk people but we’ve taken a different America First approach. 

Yeah I wonder what fraction of a percentage point of survival likelihood the booster my employer is about to mandate will buy me over an unvaccinated immunocompromised 68 year old in Botswana… utter nonsense 

[All_Pro_Bills]

Contrary to the panic mongering among western officials and mainstream media, Barry Schoub, chairman of the South African Ministerial Advisory Committee on Vaccines, told Sky News on Sunday that while South Africa, which first identified the new variant, currently has 3,220 people with the coronavirus infection overall and while the variant does appear to be spreading rapidly, there’s been no real uptick in hospitalizations.

 

“The cases that have occurred so far have all been mild cases, mild-to-moderate cases, and that’s a good sign,” said Schoub, adding that it was still early days and nothing was certain yet.

 

Most importantly Schoub said that the large number of mutations found in the omicron variant appears to destabilize the virus, which might make it less “fit” than the dominant delta strain.

 

So it seems COVID-19 is following the typical path of mutations becoming more contagious and less lethal.  Which might lead to the less severe omicron variant will become the dominant strain and result in more cases but lower overall hospitalizations and fewer deaths.  

Edited November 28, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

As a random thought to all the anti vaxers who think resistance is to be resistant to the conspiracy…. Do you think they want those who don’t listen to them to be the survivors? 

[Orlando Buffalo]

7 hours ago, Sundancer said:

 

So wait. You want to test for antibody levels to determine a level of immunity when we don’t know what level of antibodies confers immunity. 
 

Perfect Timmy. Just perfect. 
 

Oh ok. So there are no super spreader events until we know a “significant” number of people catch Covid from it. 
 

Hahaha. You’re so careless with your words Timmy. Give up. 

 

You use science to determine the number of antibodies needed, that concept you keep talking about without understanding. And I literally quoted the Merriam Webster dictionary for the second part. You are such a tool you asked for the real definition were given it and then called the scientific definition careless. 

[BillStime]

 

[Big Blitz]

AND WHAT NUMBER IS THAT?

 

 

 

“We certainly are not going to eradicate it. We’ve only eradicated one virus, and that’s smallpox. Elimination means there’s none of it in the country, like we have now with polio and with measles,” Fauci told NBC News anchor Chuck Todd. “I don’t think we’re going to be there with this. But what I do think we will be able to do is get a level of control that’s low enough that it doesn’t interfere with our function, it doesn’t have a major impact on society and what we do. It’s not going to go away.”

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/dr-fauci-says-we-need-to-learn-to-live-with-covid-because-were-not-going-to-eradicate-it

 

 

 

 

 

 

What if we already are functioning?

 

Who is listening to this CCP puppet?

 

Why does he have a job?

 

Why is he on TV?  

[JaCrispy]

Exactly...we’ve already been functioning this whole time 🤣...so sad that people actually take this guy seriously...

[All_Pro_Bills]

26 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

AND WHAT NUMBER IS THAT?

 

 

 

“We certainly are not going to eradicate it. We’ve only eradicated one virus, and that’s smallpox. Elimination means there’s none of it in the country, like we have now with polio and with measles,” Fauci told NBC News anchor Chuck Todd. “I don’t think we’re going to be there with this. But what I do think we will be able to do is get a level of control that’s low enough that it doesn’t interfere with our function, it doesn’t have a major impact on society and what we do. It’s not going to go away.”

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/dr-fauci-says-we-need-to-learn-to-live-with-covid-because-were-not-going-to-eradicate-it

 

 

 

 

 

 

What if we already are functioning?

 

Who is listening to this CCP puppet?

 

Why does he have a job?

 

Why is he on TV?  

Fauci's views align with the left's lust for authoritarian measures.  So he's a popular figure on the MSM talk show circuit.  I think this omicron is going to disappoint them.  A "weak" variant is going to kill the enthusiasm for mandates.  Watch and see.

[JaCrispy]

7 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Fauci's views align with the left's lust for authoritarian measures.  So he's a popular figure on the MSM talk show circuit.  I think this omicron is going to disappoint them.  A "weak" variant is going to kill the enthusiasm for mandates.  Watch and see.

No problem...Fauci and his minions will just roll out the next variant on the list...it’s a world of endless possibilities...😉

Edited November 28, 2021 by JaCrispy

[All_Pro_Bills]

5 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

No problem...Fauci and his minions will just out the next variant on the list...it’s a world of endless possibilities...😉

And the solution is everybody tell the SOB's to go "F" themselves.  Just say no to fascism.  

Edited November 28, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills

[Irv]

Demented Biden has no plan.   What a mess!

[Buffarukus]

9 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

As a random thought to all the anti vaxers who think resistance is to be resistant to the conspiracy…. Do you think they want those who don’t listen to them to be the survivors? 

 

survivors? not sure the conspiracy your speaking of but there is a very real history of inflating a emergency to consolidate power. my random thought is: are vaxers lucid in this reality to not see the red flags right in front of them? seeing as many believe in "get the vax or face the consequences" without a single solitary EXEMPTION required to be given beforehand. from "experts"?!?! now we are on to peoples children with no logic needed? no talk of health/execercise/nutrition which would greatly help reduce severity of ANY illness? no alternative therapeutics (unless its produced by phizer) while any even discussed or used SAFELY as PERSCRIBED are given the same "conspiracy" tag and censored? thats ok? constant hammering in unison this is "the others" fault!  it would all be over if they comply..they deserve to be punished! 😳  large segments of the population gathering under the warmth of a virtue signal to deputize themselves as keepers of the mandates. demanding segregation, some even advocating the refusal of medical treatment to any who disobey, basically a death sentance....these are the people considered mentally stable? 

 

which side seems deeper in a psychosis, the ones who are infatuated with the other or the ones that want to simply be left alone? completely willing to face the consequences of their own decision? how can people who are not in high risk groups still use their own fear as a excuse for all this? proving they don't believe in the very thing they demonize others for refusing. that is normal?

 

damn, at the very least demand answers to logical questions and dont enshrine EVERYTHING echoed by corp media as the end all truth.

 

to get started here are some straight forward questions that we all should be asking. regardless of position.

 

why are unmasked unvaxed states not seeing dramatic differences as they predicted? 

 

where did this originate? why is the guy heavily involved still in charge?  science can deconstruct dna sequences and make rna vaxcines but determining its origins..that is beyond humanities comprehension at this time..sure.

 

if the vax is safe and effective. why is it still not possible to sue the companies who make them? this 100% safe promise that for some reason, is not backed up with action that supports it after 1 year of research?

 

why does the gov seem completely unconcerned about testing for existing infected of the thousands pouring over the border? that says alot and so does the continuous forgetfulness to abide by the very mandates they prescribe from the very beginning. 

 

it goes on and on. seriously, i have dozens more. but why would they ever get answered when shut up and get vaxed is more then enough for so many. 

 

 

Edited November 29, 2021 by Buffarukus

[Sundancer]

3 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

You use science to determine the number of antibodies needed, that concept you keep talking about without understanding. And I literally quoted the Merriam Webster dictionary for the second part. You are such a tool you asked for the real definition were given it and then called the scientific definition careless. 

I’ll ask again. What is the level of antibodies, assuming you get a test that determines same, that confers immunity and as a follow up, how does that wane so you can continue to feel confident?

 

Hint. There’s only one right answer. 

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, Buffarukus said:

 

survivors? not sure the conspiracy your speaking of but there is a very real history of inflating any emergency to consolidate power. my random thought is are vaxers lucid in this reality to not see the red flags? seeing as many believe in "get the vax or face the consequences" without a single solitary EXEMPTION required to be given beforehand, from "experts"?!?! now we are on to peoples children with no logic? no talk of health/execercise/nutrition which would greatly help any illness. no alternative therapeutics (unless its produced by phizer) and any discussed or used SAFELY are demonized and censored? thats ok? constant hammering in unison this is "the others" fault! " it would be over if they comply..they deserve to be punished! 😳  large segments gathering under the warmth of a virtue signal to deputize themselves as keepers of the mandates. demanding segregation, some advocating the refusal medical treatment of those who disobeyed....this is a widespread group that think they are the ones who are mentally stable?

 

which side seems deeper in a psychosis, the ones who are infatuated with the other or the ones that want to simply be left alone and willing to face the consequences of their own decision? how can people who are not in high risk groups still use there own fear as a excuse and at the least joining together to demand answers to logical questions?

 

here are some straight forward ones that we all should be asking.

 

why are unmasked unvaxed states not seeing dramatic differences? no real answers for 2 years.

 

if the vax is safe and effective why is it still not possible to sue the companies who make them? a year of this 100% safe promise, but not backed up with the action that supports this?

 

why does the gov seem completely unconcerned  about testing for existing infected of the thousands pouring over the border? 

 

it goes on and on. seriously people have dozens more but who needs answers when shut up and get vaxed is more then enough for so many.