BillStime Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: Imagine being this freaking stupid. It's near impossible but leftists commies have done it. So cases plummeted in Florida because of masks, right? Dupes. Total dupes. Be grateful our freedom loving side doesn't give a rats **s about cases! we understand it's not the "fault" of humans for biology. So don't get defensive Bill. We're not going to blame Ds for the winter surge in the North that you and your moronic elected officials will use to justify lockdownz. You get your booster shot yet? 1
Big Blitz Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) The masks and vaccines are working! New variant!!! NY Gov Kathy Hochul declares state of emergency amid new COVID variant The governor of New York on Friday declared a state of emergency as COVID transmission reached rates not seen since April 2020, while warning that the troubling new variant of COVID that first emerged in Botswana is 'coming'. Earlier on Friday, the U.S. banned flights from eight Southern African countries to try and prevent the mutant strain, Omicron, from arriving. Kathy Hochul, the Empire State governor, said that all non-urgent procedures could be postponed beginning December 3 if the hospital's capacity falls dangerously low. She also issued a declaration of disaster emergency, noting that COVID transmission is at a level not seen since April 2020. The declaration unlocks sweeping powers for her to take emergency measures, without the usual state congressional approval. 'We continue to see warning signs of spikes in COVID this winter, and while the new Omicron variant has yet to be detected in New York State, it's coming,' Hochul tweeted. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10247833/NY-Gov-announces-plan-boost-hospital-capacity-address-staff-shortage-response-Omicron.html Edited November 27, 2021 by Big Blitz 1
RiotAct Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 Double-Plus Ungood Emergency Powers Variant. 1
dpberr Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 39 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: The masks and vaccines are working! New variant!!! NY Gov Kathy Hochul declares state of emergency amid new COVID variant The governor of New York on Friday declared a state of emergency as COVID transmission reached rates not seen since April 2020, while warning that the troubling new variant of COVID that first emerged in Botswana is 'coming'. Earlier on Friday, the U.S. banned flights from eight Southern African countries to try and prevent the mutant strain, Omicron, from arriving. Kathy Hochul, the Empire State governor, said that all non-urgent procedures could be postponed beginning December 3 if the hospital's capacity falls dangerously low. She also issued a declaration of disaster emergency, noting that COVID transmission is at a level not seen since April 2020. The declaration unlocks sweeping powers for her to take emergency measures, without the usual state congressional approval. 'We continue to see warning signs of spikes in COVID this winter, and while the new Omicron variant has yet to be detected in New York State, it's coming,' Hochul tweeted. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10247833/NY-Gov-announces-plan-boost-hospital-capacity-address-staff-shortage-response-Omicron.html You NYers have a clearly insane governor. 1 1
dhg Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, dpberr said: You NYers have a clearly insane governor. And Erie County Executive 1 1
plenzmd1 Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) Hmm, more proof of the efficacy of vaccines. About 1/20th the size of us, would equate to 400k cases in the US. just remember, we can’t get back to normal till we get 70% fully vaccinated, cause that’s what the studies show us!! https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/11/27/amsterdam-omicron-covid-variant-lockdown/ Quote On Thursday, the country of some 17.5 million reported a seven-day rolling average of more than 20,000 infections. About 74 percent of the Dutch population has been fully vaccinated and booster shots are being offered Edited November 27, 2021 by plenzmd1
Sundancer Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 45 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Hmm, more proof of the efficacy of vaccines. About 1/20th the size of us, would equate to 400k cases in the US. just remember, we can’t get back to normal till we get 70% fully vaccinated, cause that’s what the studies show us!! https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/11/27/amsterdam-omicron-covid-variant-lockdown/ Cases. What is the largest group of people showing up in cases in NL? Waiting waiting waiting. 0-17. And there’s this gem out of the Netherlands. I’m shocked shocked I tell ya that you missed this. “In ICU, the proportion of unvaccinated patients dropped from over 80 percent in September to about 70 percent in October. The proportion of vaccinated Covid-19 patients needing hospital care is therefore increasing. According to the RIVM, this is a matter of relativity in the current wave of infections. Over 11 million Netherlands residents are fully vaccinated. And while they only stand a small chance of needing hospital care if they get Covid-19, a small chance times 11 million is still quite a few people in absolute number. “ Want to guess at the average age of a vaxxed patient who is hospitalized vs unvaxed and hospitalized in NL? The number is out there. But it doesn’t fit your VACCINES DONT WORK narrative. You were smart to run away from your last homework assignment.
Sundancer Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 Simple breakdown re memory T cells and advocacy for control until we can better help at risk populations. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-021-00625-9 6 hours ago, B-Man said: Happy for the folks of Cole County Missouri!
plenzmd1 Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 38 minutes ago, Sundancer said: Cases. What is the largest group of people showing up in cases in NL? Waiting waiting waiting. 0-17. And there’s this gem out of the Netherlands. I’m shocked shocked I tell ya that you missed this. “In ICU, the proportion of unvaccinated patients dropped from over 80 percent in September to about 70 percent in October. The proportion of vaccinated Covid-19 patients needing hospital care is therefore increasing. According to the RIVM, this is a matter of relativity in the current wave of infections. Over 11 million Netherlands residents are fully vaccinated. And while they only stand a small chance of needing hospital care if they get Covid-19, a small chance times 11 million is still quite a few people in absolute number. “ Want to guess at the average age of a vaxxed patient who is hospitalized vs unvaxed and hospitalized in NL? The number is out there. But it doesn’t fit your VACCINES DONT WORK narrative. You were smart to run away from your last homework assignment. And another example that @Sundancer will explain away Quote w. Close to 80 percent of the state’s 20 million residents have received at least one dose, according to the governor’s office. But Hochul noted in her executive order that the virus is transmitting at rates not seen since April 2020, when New York was at the center of the global pandemic. Hmm, 80% vaxed, and transmitting at rates not seen since April 2020. Thank you sir, may I have another!
ALF Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 28 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: And another example that @Sundancer will explain away Hmm, 80% vaxed, and transmitting at rates not seen since April 2020. Thank you sir, may I have another! Yes you certainly may, sorry I could not resist 🙂 With patients with 2 shots still ending up in the hospital it must be wearing off after about 6 months . Don't know what other risk factors are involved. In WNY hospitalizations are indeed spiking with reported up to 12 hour waits at some Buffalo ERs. The results of Holiday gatherings are too soon to be here already. It looks like boosters will continue to be needed for high risk.
plenzmd1 Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 Just now, ALF said: Yes you certainly may, sorry I could not resist 🙂 With patients with 2 shots still ending up in the hospital it must be wearing off after about 6 months . Don't know what other risk factors are involved. In WNY hospitalizations are indeed spiking with reported up to 12 hour waits at some Buffalo ERs. The results of Holiday gatherings are too soon to be here already. It looks like boosters will continue to be needed for high risk. Or maybe, just maybe, the vax don’t work as advertised.
ALF Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Or maybe, just maybe, the vax don’t work as advertised. We are in big trouble if the vax don't work, what is the alternative?
plenzmd1 Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, ALF said: We are in big trouble if the vax don't work, what is the alternative? Let’s just say they aren’t nearly as effective as we are told, we are in same a spot as we have ever been. Vulnerable are at risk, most people are at very little risk of having to go to hospital, our immune systems will adjust, and Covid is never going away. Take a gander at India’s numbers with less than 20 % vaxed as of a month ago. 1
ALF Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 Well lets hope we adjust soon before even more nurses retire or quit from being overworked.
All_Pro_Bills Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ALF said: We are in big trouble if the vax don't work, what is the alternative? 3CL Protease inhibitors and other viral treatments along with immunity boosters and supplements like Vitamins C & D, Zinc, L-Lysine. It's not that the vaccines don't work. The problem is efficacy wears off over time and as the virus mutates current vaccine formulas becomes less effective. And while they slow down the spread of the virus, they don't stop the spread since vaccinated people can still infect other people. Viral mutations tend to become more infectious over time but the good news is the also become less fatal. I also keep saying take a look at what India did with an Ivermectin + treatment vitamin kit but nobody wants to hear about that $2.65 solution they implemented with success. Edited November 27, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills 1
ALF Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 Scientists really need to take a very close look at India
Chef Jim Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, ALF said: We are in big trouble if the vax don't work, what is the alternative? Alternative? Let nature run her course. 17 hours ago, Sundancer said: I am, and a Bills fan too on a Bills message board! Never heard of this place with a population of 5000 though. Well then there is probably not a snowballs chance in hell you’ve heard of where I’m from. Get out, take a drive, enjoy the countryside.
Orlando Buffalo Posted November 27, 2021 Posted November 27, 2021 Can someone tell me how more need to vaccinated in order to reach herd immunity? I have not heard about it in quite some time.
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