Big Blitz Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, ALF said: Get vaccinated , my health insurance premiums are high now without more unnecessary covid hospitalizations to make it increase. You sure about this? BREAKING: Founder of mRNA vaccines says "stop the vaccination program - the vaccinated are exacerbating mutations - and the vaccines could lead to more severe cases Maybe someone can out science this guy. Apologies if you're triggered by the fact that Bannon interviewed him.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, ALF said: Get vaccinated , my health insurance premiums are high now without more unnecessary covid hospitalizations to make it increase. Too much worrying about the you, not enough worrying about the us. Edited July 28, 2021 by leh-nerd skin-erd 1
Big Blitz Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 He says what they warned about last year is happening: "Data from the study of SARS-CoV and other respiratory viruses suggest that anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies could exacerbate COVID-19 through antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). Previous respiratory syncytial virus and dengue virus vaccine studies revealed human clinical safety risks related to ADE, resulting in failed vaccine trials." https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-00789-5 Appreciate anyone else that can explain this like we're 5.
All_Pro_Bills Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: He says what they warned about last year is happening: "Data from the study of SARS-CoV and other respiratory viruses suggest that anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies could exacerbate COVID-19 through antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). Previous respiratory syncytial virus and dengue virus vaccine studies revealed human clinical safety risks related to ADE, resulting in failed vaccine trials." https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-00789-5 Appreciate anyone else that can explain this like we're 5. I get some of it and this might not be at the 5 level but of what I do comprehend the potential exists for the active agents in the vaccines to produce a condition that may over-stimulate the immune system in the event of some viral load which produces cytokine storm. This condition causes inflammation in the respiratory system and other organs which can cause them to function poorly and potentially shut down eventually leading to death. One treatment called Lenzulimab that's been submitted to the FDA for EUA showed statistically significant positive results in phase 3 clinical trials in suppressing cytokine storm for hospitalized patients. Its been with the FDA for two months and a decision is expected shortly. I'll defer to any virus experts here on anything I might have missed. Edited July 28, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, BillStime said: Hysterical Committed to the myth vaccine hesitancy is concentrated in Trump loving white supremist's and not prevalent among communities of color which distrust, for good reasons, government? 1
BillStime Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Committed to the myth vaccine hesitancy is concentrated in Trump loving white supremist's and not prevalent among communities of color which distrust, for good reasons, government? As of 6 a.m. EDT July 27, a total of 163,312,474 Americans had been fully vaccinated, or 49.2 percent of the country's population, according to the CDC's data. 1. Vermont Number of people fully vaccinated: 420,346 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 67.36 2. Massachusetts Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,386,221 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 63.64 3. Maine Number of people fully vaccinated: 850,647 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 63.28 4. Connecticut Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,245,059 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 62.97 5. Rhode Island Number of people fully vaccinated: 647,300 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 61.1 6. Maryland Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,535,077 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 58.47 7. New Hampshire Number of people fully vaccinated: 789,068 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 58.03 8. New Jersey Number of people fully vaccinated: 5,133,658 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 57.8 9. Washington Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,363,088 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 57.3 10. New Mexico Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,189,697 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 56.74 11. New York State Number of people fully vaccinated: 11,033,818 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 56.72 12. Oregon Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,350,859 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 55.74 13. District of Columbia Number of people fully vaccinated: 384,596 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 54.49 14. Virginia Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,626,792 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 54.21 15. Colorado Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,115,137 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 54.09 16. Minnesota Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,018,893 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 53.53 17. Hawaii Number of people fully vaccinated: 754,967 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 53.32 18. California Number of people fully vaccinated: 20,720,246 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 52.44 19. Delaware Number of people fully vaccinated: 510,337 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 52.41 20. Pennsylvania Number of people fully vaccinated: 6,645,348 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 51.91 21. Wisconsin Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,002,057 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 51.56 22. Iowa Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,559,883 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 49.44 23. Nebraska Number of people fully vaccinated: 953,006 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 49.27 24. Michigan Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,858,654 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 48.65 25. Florida Number of people fully vaccinated: 10,422,399 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 48.53 26. Illinois Number of people fully vaccinated: 6,107,622 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 48.2 27. South Dakota Number of people fully vaccinated: 413,425 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 46.73 28. Ohio Number of people fully vaccinated: 5,404,967 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 46.24 29. Alaska Number of people fully vaccinated: 331,567 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 45.32 30. Kentucky Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,022,775 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 45.28 31. Arizona Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,275,902 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 45.01 32. Kansas Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,309,691 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.96 33. Utah Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,423,509 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.4 34. Montana Number of people fully vaccinated: 471,678 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.13 35. Nevada Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,356,716 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.05 36. Indiana Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,961,774 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.99 37. North Carolina Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,563,251 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.51 38. Texas Number of people fully vaccinated: 12,609,049 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.49 39. Missouri Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,512,400 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 40.94 40. South Carolina Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,078,799 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 40.38 41. Oklahoma Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,582,479 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 39.99 42. North Dakota Number of people fully vaccinated: 304,231 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 39.92 43. West Virginia Number of people fully vaccinated: 698,205 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.96 44. Tennessee Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,654,498 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.87 45. Georgia Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,039,150 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.04 46. Idaho Number of people fully vaccinated: 664,880 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 37.21 47. Louisiana Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,703,117 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.64 48. Wyoming Number of people fully vaccinated: 210,449 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.36 49. Arkansas Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,087,284 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.03 50. Mississippi Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,017,257 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 34.18 51. Alabama Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,672,423 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 34.11 1 1
ALF Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 50 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Too much worrying about the you, not enough worrying about the us. How is telling everyone to get vaccinated not enough worrying about everyone ?
ALF Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 % of US black 13.4, % of US hispanic 18 % = 31.4%. How many are vaccinated Keeping in mind those under age 12 not eligible Latest Data on COVID-19 Vaccinations by Race/Ethnicity Published: Jul 21, 2021 https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/
Orlando Buffalo Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Doc Brown said: 😊😜 I think it was sarcasm but well played.
Big Blitz Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 49 minutes ago, BillStime said: As of 6 a.m. EDT July 27, a total of 163,312,474 Americans had been fully vaccinated, or 49.2 percent of the country's population, according to the CDC's data. 1. Vermont Number of people fully vaccinated: 420,346 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 67.36 2. Massachusetts Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,386,221 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 63.64 3. Maine Number of people fully vaccinated: 850,647 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 63.28 4. Connecticut Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,245,059 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 62.97 5. Rhode Island Number of people fully vaccinated: 647,300 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 61.1 6. Maryland Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,535,077 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 58.47 7. New Hampshire Number of people fully vaccinated: 789,068 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 58.03 8. New Jersey Number of people fully vaccinated: 5,133,658 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 57.8 9. Washington Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,363,088 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 57.3 10. New Mexico Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,189,697 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 56.74 11. New York State Number of people fully vaccinated: 11,033,818 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 56.72 12. Oregon Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,350,859 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 55.74 13. District of Columbia Number of people fully vaccinated: 384,596 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 54.49 14. Virginia Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,626,792 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 54.21 15. Colorado Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,115,137 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 54.09 16. Minnesota Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,018,893 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 53.53 17. Hawaii Number of people fully vaccinated: 754,967 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 53.32 18. California Number of people fully vaccinated: 20,720,246 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 52.44 19. Delaware Number of people fully vaccinated: 510,337 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 52.41 20. Pennsylvania Number of people fully vaccinated: 6,645,348 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 51.91 21. Wisconsin Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,002,057 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 51.56 22. Iowa Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,559,883 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 49.44 23. Nebraska Number of people fully vaccinated: 953,006 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 49.27 24. Michigan Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,858,654 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 48.65 25. Florida Number of people fully vaccinated: 10,422,399 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 48.53 26. Illinois Number of people fully vaccinated: 6,107,622 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 48.2 27. South Dakota Number of people fully vaccinated: 413,425 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 46.73 28. Ohio Number of people fully vaccinated: 5,404,967 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 46.24 29. Alaska Number of people fully vaccinated: 331,567 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 45.32 30. Kentucky Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,022,775 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 45.28 31. Arizona Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,275,902 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 45.01 32. Kansas Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,309,691 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.96 33. Utah Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,423,509 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.4 34. Montana Number of people fully vaccinated: 471,678 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.13 35. Nevada Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,356,716 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.05 36. Indiana Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,961,774 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.99 37. North Carolina Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,563,251 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.51 38. Texas Number of people fully vaccinated: 12,609,049 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.49 39. Missouri Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,512,400 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 40.94 40. South Carolina Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,078,799 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 40.38 41. Oklahoma Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,582,479 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 39.99 42. North Dakota Number of people fully vaccinated: 304,231 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 39.92 43. West Virginia Number of people fully vaccinated: 698,205 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.96 44. Tennessee Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,654,498 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.87 45. Georgia Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,039,150 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.04 46. Idaho Number of people fully vaccinated: 664,880 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 37.21 47. Louisiana Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,703,117 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.64 48. Wyoming Number of people fully vaccinated: 210,449 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.36 49. Arkansas Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,087,284 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.03 50. Mississippi Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,017,257 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 34.18 51. Alabama Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,672,423 Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 34.11 Hi there Bill. Sorry. But since you made this a nationwide pandemic way way way back in March of 2020 when it wasn't.....individual states don't matter. This is the United States. And I thought it was a pandemic of the unvaccinated up until yesterday but whatever. I know you don't want Biden to take responsibility but......he didn't get to his 70% by July 4. Britain did. The country of Brexit. Trumpers you might say. So epic fail. Perhaps you and your clown show leaders you keep ignoring should rethink the messaging, metrics, and goals. As to the stupidity of that list: Why isn't Georgia (Number 45) and Neveda (35) in blue? State 21 is at 51%. Wisconsin. State 35 is at 44% Nevada So the drop off (LOL) between states 21 and 35 is a whopping whole 7%. States 51 to 41 (not including the blue state of Georgia for some reason again not shown as blue)..... there are as many people in those states total as there are in Texas. Spread out across 1/5 of the land of the continental United States. Extremely rural. Covid has been so horrifying in those states that only 35 to 40% have gotten the shot that doesn't work. But anyway back to states 21 thru 35.......please Bill......explain to us the significance and science of that drop off between states 21 and 35 (that's 15 states) and why that 7% difference between them is significant? I don't really need you to because you can't. What should they all be at and why? And then what happens when they reach those numbers? Cite please.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, ALF said: How is telling everyone to get vaccinated not enough worrying about everyone ? You seemed hyper fixated on your insurance costs. Together Everyone Achieves More!
reddogblitz Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Spread out across 1/5 of the land of the continental United States. Extremely rural. Covid has been so horrifying in those states that only 35 to 40% have gotten the shot that doesn't work. Come on, man.
BillStime Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Hi there Bill. Sorry. But since you made this a nationwide pandemic way way way back in March of 2020 when it wasn't.....individual states don't matter. This is the United States. And I thought it was a pandemic of the unvaccinated up until yesterday but whatever. I know you don't want Biden to take responsibility but......he didn't get to his 70% by July 4. Britain did. The country of Brexit. Trumpers you might say. So epic fail. Perhaps you and your clown show leaders you keep ignoring should rethink the messaging, metrics, and goals. As to the stupidity of that list: Why isn't Georgia (Number 45) and Neveda (35) in blue? State 21 is at 51%. Wisconsin. State 35 is at 44% Nevada So the drop off (LOL) between states 21 and 35 is a whopping whole 7%. States 51 to 41 (not including the blue state of Georgia for some reason again not shown as blue)..... there are as many people in those states total as there are in Texas. Spread out across 1/5 of the land of the continental United States. Extremely rural. Covid has been so horrifying in those states that only 35 to 40% have gotten the shot that doesn't work. But anyway back to states 21 thru 35.......please Bill......explain to us the significance and science of that drop off between states 21 and 35 (that's 15 states) and why that 7% difference between them is significant? I don't really need you to because you can't. What should they all be at and why? And then what happens when they reach those numbers? Cite please. Red States are to blame for rising infections and restrictions. Get vaccinated. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted July 29, 2021 Author Posted July 29, 2021 On 7/27/2021 at 9:10 AM, Big Blitz said: I did because I'm 42, will take the long term gamble, and knew where this was headed anyway. Trump also told me to get it so I listened. As for teens, kids under 12.......the people imposing it on them are a disgrace. And even worse still making them mask up. Saw a family out yesterday at the mall here. Literally no one in masks (ok maybe 5% of the guests) and I see these parents and their 2 kids probably around 4 and 6 years old. F....ing embarrassing and I feel so bad for their kids. Not sure I blame the parents if they think the masks protect them (they've been fed such fake news) but I will if they simply are going to use their kids to virtue signal. Or maybe one of the kids, or one of the parents, or a grandfather who lives with them just got a transplant and is on immune suppressive drugs. But one thing about a know it all: they always know it all. 1
Big Blitz Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 The NEA runs the country. Masks on for summer. Masks back on for school. We could have been in the buildings in masks all of 2020 per their logic. Eventually they'll figure that out and if you're in a deep blue dumpster fire do not be surprised when you start seeing at least calls to be virtual.
ALF Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 43 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: You seemed hyper fixated on your insurance costs. Together Everyone Achieves More! I could give a damn about my insurance costs , I care about unvaccinated people suffering in the hospital and dying. What are you fixated on? 1
Big Blitz Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Come on, man. Breakthrough COVID infections after vaccination can lead to long-haul symptoms, Israeli study shows Nearly 3% of medical workers in a new Israeli study contracted COVID-19 even though they were vaccinated, and 19% of them still had symptoms six weeks later. Although the vaccines were never expected to be perfect, the findings raise questions about their protection and suggest that even vaccinated people could experience long-term symptoms such as such as fatigue, brain fog and shortness of breath. Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown University School of Public Health, said he finds it concerning – though not conclusive – that people had lingering symptoms weeks after getting sick. "There really may be a risk here, but we don't know how big a risk and how much of a problem it is," he said. Most of the people in the study who got sick had mild symptoms, and none were hospitalized. But Jha said he is troubled by the fact that young, healthy people would get so-called breakthrough infections within a few months of vaccination. Scientists expected protection to wane over time, and they expected the vaccines to be less effective among older people and those with pre-existing health conditions. But that's not who got sick in this study..... Coronavirus vaccines were never designed to perfectly protect people against all infections, noted Dr. Eric Topol, a cardiologist who founded and directs the Scripps Research Translational Institute in California. He said current vaccines are great at preventing serious infection deep in the lungs, but not at blocking infection in the upper airways. What's needed, he said, is a nasal-spray vaccine that would stop the coronavirus from taking hold at all.... "Don't take the delta stress test. Keep a mask on," he said. "With the vaccine, you can be confident, but you can't be 100% confident." https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/07/28/breakthrough-covid-19-infections-can-lead-long-term-symptoms-study/5399083001/ Take from this what you will. One week ago I was told this: None of it matters when you move the goal posts 500000000000 times and set no metrics. People are done. Kids are at risk of having their entire high school lives ruined with what we're doing. What is the end game? There clearly isn't one. That's THE PROBLEM. We aren't governed by the CDC and "science!" that's been politicized. None of what we're doing based on THEIR METRICS (that change monthly) should tell you this is over when _____ If you can't do that, you're lying and don't deserve our compliance. Edited July 29, 2021 by Big Blitz
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