It's Time to Mandate Vaccines

[B-Man]

46 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I saw a recent interview of CDC director Walensky with CNN's Wolf Blitzer.  She said with Delta a vaccinated asymptomatic person can carry the same viral load as an unvaccinated asymptomatic person.  This means the vaccinated and unvaccinated person presents the same exact level of risk to others. 

So if the only difference is the risk assumed by the individual that is unvaccinated vs. the vaccinated person but the risk both pose to others is equal then what's the point of vaccine passports and discriminatory polices?  As the vaccine protects the vaccinated person but presents no protection to anyone else in the presence of the vaccinated individual.  As its possible for all the vaccinated people to pass the infection to others, all the assumptions behind these polices are false.  Which means is as long as your vaccinated that's all you need to worry about.  Per the CDC. 

 

 

 

Did the CDC Director just kill the rationale for vaccine passports?

American Thinker, by Andrea Widburg

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/08/did_the_cdc_director_just_kill_the_rationale_for_vaccine_passports.html

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

49 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

Did the CDC Director just kill the rationale for vaccine passports?

American Thinker, by Andrea Widburg

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/08/did_the_cdc_director_just_kill_the_rationale_for_vaccine_passports.html

 

 

 

 

 

This administration is a disaster.    

 

 

 

 

"The rule."

 

 

Let that really sink in.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

                                        

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

 

 

[Chef Jim]

13 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

                                        

 

 

 

Good point.  

[dpberr]

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

Did the CDC Director just kill the rationale for vaccine passports?

American Thinker, by Andrea Widburg

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/08/did_the_cdc_director_just_kill_the_rationale_for_vaccine_passports.html

 

 

 

The CDC Director keeps lowering her prospects for keeping her job with each interview.  I don't think she even knows what's fact and what's fiction anymore.  (Does anybody?)  

 

All of these "experts" need to stop hitting the talk show circuit individually and just do ONE daily or weekly press briefing.  No individual twitter accounts, no hot take opinion pieces on CNN, just a professional press briefing.  

[BillStime]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

The vaccinated are angry. That's understandable but unproductive, health experts say

 

 

 

 

Masks are back, some hospitals are filling up again and there's little question who is causing the latest resurgence of COVID-19 in the USA.

 

Unvaccinated Americans are rapidly becoming sick from the ultra-contagious delta variant, and they often get extremely ill: More than 97% of people hospitalized for COVID-19 in mid-July were unvaccinated, said Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

 

It's a tragically predictable outcome, leading some politicians and pundits to unload their frustrations on the unvaccinated.

 

"It’s not a pandemic of ignorance," the Santa Monica Daily Press quipped in an editorial about Los Angeles County's spike in cases and hospitalizations. "This is a surge of straight stupidity."

 

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/08/08/covid-vaccinated-angry-unvaccinated-insults-masks-delta-variant/5434096001/

 

 

 

Still totally baffled at how this avoided the unvaccinated from March thru late July.  And how with half the country vaccinated its getting to more people than it did last December.. 

 

Spare me Delta wasn't here.  It's been everywhere.  Allegedly.  

[BillStime]

Ditto

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

 

 

It's one of the underlying conditions unfortunately.

 

Anything else they left out of this?

 

 

 

This whole story should be flagged as disinformation.  

Edited August 8, 2021 by Big Blitz

[Doc Brown]

4 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I saw a recent interview of CDC director Walensky with CNN's Wolf Blitzer.  She said with Delta a vaccinated asymptomatic person can carry the same viral load as an unvaccinated asymptomatic person.  This means the vaccinated and unvaccinated person presents the same exact level of risk to others. 

So if the only difference is the risk assumed by the individual that is unvaccinated vs. the vaccinated person but the risk both pose to others is equal then what's the point of vaccine passports and discriminatory polices?  As the vaccine protects the vaccinated person but presents no protection to anyone else in the presence of the vaccinated individual.  As its possible for all the vaccinated people to pass the infection to others, all the assumptions behind these polices are false.  Which means is as long as your vaccinated that's all you need to worry about.  Per the CDC. 

To pressure people to get the vaccine with some unrealistic dream of zero Covid.  It's pretty obvious at this point.

[dpberr]

27 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

It's one of the underlying conditions unfortunately.

 

Anything else they left out of this?

 

 

 

This whole story should be flagged as disinformation.  

Yes. He "looks" healthy, therefore he is. It's a disingenuous article. 

 

No details on blood work, whether he smoked, whether he did drugs, whether he was immunocompromised. I know a few people who are HIV positive who are in amazing physical shape. Still... immunocompromised bodies.

[Chef Jim]

2 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Hip hip hooray!!

 

Why not call the family and give them a good ole….

 

[Big Blitz]

23 minutes ago, dpberr said:

Yes. He "looks" healthy, therefore he is. It's a disingenuous article. 

 

No details on blood work, whether he smoked, whether he did drugs, whether he was immunocompromised. I know a few people who are HIV positive who are in amazing physical shape. Still... immunocompromised bodies.

 

 

Terrible.  It's unfortunate and sad.  

 

But to put this on "Anti Vaxxers" AND deliberately lie by leaving out context to scare everyone with the "see look how fit and young he is so you are all at equal risk" story is pathetic and the irony is THAT is why they have "anti new vaxxers" in the first place.  No one trusts anything rightfully so.  

 

 

No sane person and logical human should be concluding: "Hey there is a virus out there that could be serious to a lot of people but overall the math says you'll be ok especially kids but the risk is up to you.......but it sure does look like a lot of agendas coming together to drag this on for their own ends that have zero to do with public health."

[Big Blitz]

16 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Hip hip hooray!!

 

Why not call the family and give them a good ole….

 

 

 

 

Bill should stop posting personal stories of individual deaths or pleas from an ICU about taking the vaccine especially the ones deliberately leaving out important and relevant context.

 

 

 

Unless of course if he posted that to illustrate how the media is deliberately misleading, leaving out said context, and intentionally trying to increase the fear.

Edited August 8, 2021 by Big Blitz

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

It's one of the underlying conditions unfortunately.

 

Anything else they left out of this?

 

 

 

This whole story should be flagged as disinformation.  

Pro suicide eh?

[Big Blitz]

Norway:

 

"We can't eradicate it.  Time to live with it."

 

No kidding!

 

Wow....biology.  

 

 

[JaCrispy]

6 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

When you’re a person that doesn’t think you’re capable of ever being a Nazi, you’re never on the lookout, to safeguard yourself against that outcome- meaning, those people are normally the first to succumb to that ideology without even realizing it...

Edited August 8, 2021 by JaCrispy

[Sundancer]

7 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

No I'm not.  I know exactly what my point was.  

 

 

 

 

What point?  I had all the facts about the fear porn highlighted for you. 

 

 

 

Causes of death are always filed from Covid weeks prior to their official report to the State. 

 

And it was not hours - I don't know where you got your information from but she died July 30th; the story was posted August 5th - she was 17. 

 

While tragic, there is a lot here that needs to be clarified.  Why was she at home and not at a hospital?  Medical examiner said she had Covid?  Sorry but considering all the ways we've labeled Covid deaths if this one doesn't leave you with a few questions then I don't know what to tell you. 

 

Unexpectedly?  

 

 

 

NORFOLK, Va. — Family members of a girl who lived in Tidewater Gardens said she died from COVID-19 complications on Friday, July 30.

 

Relatives of Schwanda Corprew said her death was the one reported by the Virginia Department of Health on Thursday.

Schwanda had complained of headaches and some body aches last week, then she unexpectedly passed away at home. According to family, a medical examiner confirmed it was from COVID-19 complications.

 

https://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/virginia-covid-19-child-death-eastern-region-vdh/291-101532ad-8db7-49e9-af88-d5af2af91000

 

 

Nice now you’re questioning the death of a child because “politics.” Why would you inject her death even more into a politics board to make some “point.”

 

You a sh-t stain.