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5 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

That’s a great question, I suppose I would, but I don’t know if that’s technically correct. Personally, I think they are all demented. Society tends to glamorize the gang/mob world, and it creates more sympathy towards those figures. I think we also view it differently, because we don’t see their “victims” as being true victims. We see the victims as having guilt, and don’t have the same sympathy we do for others. Tony Soprano was a demented character, but the show portrayed him as human in a way we could all identify, while others are portrayed as sub human. We’re all human at the end of the day, but evil is evil. 

 

Michael Corleone was loved.

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8 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

Please don’t take my question wrongly, I’m just genuinely curious. I see Sherman’s intelligence mentioned a lot. What about him struck you as being intelligent ? I just never saw it. 

The way he conducts himself in interviews, the way he is able to get under the skin of opponents, etc. He represents himself in contract negotiations. He was an excellent student athlete. I'm not saying he is a genius, just that he seems a cut above the general NFL player.

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A bunch of quick knee jerk remarks including mine.  My feelings are just simply let it play out.  Most of us have made an initial comment.  It really could be anything.

 

Why bother speculating anything more just offer thoughts once we really know what most likely went on last night/today.

 

Hes definitely not quiet or reserved, and let’s his feelings and thoughts known, but part of me believe he is more calculating in his comments than some think.  
 

This is self serving as I wanted to admit that point, but glad we didn’t bring him in here.  I do respect his prior skills.  I don’t know if he has anything left though.

Posted
1 hour ago, appoo said:

This really isn't the place to debate social/educational issues and policy...but I wasn't speaking to test prep.  It's a much more basic, and tangible level. The math and verbal skills that are tested on the SATs, aren't taught at the same level of proficiency across America, and there are also a lot of environmental factors that come into play as well, both in and out of school.

 

Suffice it to say, that when it comes to the SATs, that kids from poor, overcrowded, higher crime area have a lot of barriers infront of them they have to overcome that kids from NOT those kind of areas wouldn't have. Same is proably true of really poor rural distrincts.

 

SAT testing tends to advantage kids in well to do areas and private schools.

 

Basically it's a HORRIBLE way of measuring the intelligence of a student, or determining who is or isn't deserving of college admission.

 

 

it's interesting to me that that you say this sin't the place to debate something, followed by debating it.

 

your assertion makes sense, but the data doesn't support it when we look at the much written about test in public high schools in NYC.  most of the children in these schools are from very poor and overcrowded (mostly in the middle of the pack crime wise, but it's certainly not all a bed or roses) places in the city yet somehow manage to score high enough on an aptitude test to get into these very competitive schools.  a good chunk of them speak english as a second language as well.

 

the point of my original post is that people assume someone (sherman in this case) is smart because he went to stanford (some might argue being a very elite football player might have had something to do with that) it isn't necessarily the case and there are tests that are designed to more accurately measure someone's smarts than a brand on a piece of paper.

 

the NFL uses the wonderlick, surely after years of college and contracting an agent for the purpose of entering the NFL these players are taught the math and verbal skills necessary to score better on the test, particularly since the impact of that one test can mean the difference between a smaller and a larger first contract.

 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:


He was a high caliber player in 2019, I think some team was going to kick the tires on him. If Josh Norman coming off of a disaster of a season in 2019 got a contract in 2020 I would have found it hard to not see Sherman getting a one year deal.

Was a high caliber player, was.

 

Sure there are 32 teams, someone will roll the dice, after all Tim Tebow and Kelvin Benjamin are each getting a shot.  I dont care what team brings any of the three in, I can tell from what I saw all three are not NFL caliber players at this time.

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17 minutes ago, MJS said:

The way he conducts himself in interviews, the way he is able to get under the skin of opponents, etc. He represents himself in contract negotiations. He was an excellent student athlete. I'm not saying he is a genius, just that he seems a cut above the general NFL player.

That’s fair. I was genuinely curious what people see. I agree that he has brains, but who knows if he actually represented himself well in negotiations. Additionally, the self promotional stuff seemed bright, but how much was truly calculated? I never had an issue with Sherman’s on field antics, but find it amusing how many use his Stanford degree to justify it. Sherman has always been a calculated genius who does everything with a purpose. Other NFL players who behave the same are nothing more than idiots to the average fan. If we say he always seemed like an idiot, we’re crossing some invisible line. It’s amazing what a piece of paper can do for you in this country, as far as how people judge you. I’m not directing any of this towards your comments, just a general observation of how Sherman is viewed vs other players. 

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26 minutes ago, MJS said:

The way he conducts himself in interviews, the way he is able to get under the skin of opponents, etc. He represents himself in contract negotiations. He was an excellent student athlete. I'm not saying he is a genius, just that he seems a cut above the general NFL player.

Stanford degree too with a 4.2 GPA.

Posted
2 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

AP classes are weighted higher, so you can actually come close to having a 5.0 GPA on the 4.0 scale.  I think my graduating high school GPA was something like 4.34.

Oh ok cool. I took AP classes but I guess since it wasnt over a 4 I never noticed. Thanks for the explaination

Posted
2 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said:

Sherman is hard to like but I'll be honest, I would have never thought he would be in the headlines for this.

I knew he would one day be charged with "domestic violence burglary" because of the way he yelled about Crabtree that one time, the political opinions that he expressed that upset me, and his dreadlocks.  All of those things screamed guy who is likely to be accused of domestic violence burglary.  It was off the charts on the Thugometer.

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I find the hit-and-run incident with the abandoned car quite interesting in this whole situation as well. This could end up being a Tyler Perry movie. 

 

Edit: And having to be subdued by a K-9 Officer? Interesting. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

He also was his school's salutatorian, was voted most likely to succeed and graduated with a 4.2 GPA.  He's no dummy.

I've always thought the highest GPA was 4.0.  I must be dumb

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Posted
4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Can anyone add more insight into "Burglary Domestic Violence"?

 

Does that mean he basically pushed his way into her house to take something? Likely something he felt belongs to him...

I can add a little insight. Before the attempted burglary, Sherman drove into a closed traffic lane (my project). He almost hit the employee who tried to wave him down. He stopped, was escorted out of the work area, and shortly after leaving he hit a concrete barrier damaging his car. 
 

Don’t have any other details. 

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7 minutes ago, H2o said:

I find the hit-and-run incident with the abandoned car quite interesting in this whole situation as well. This could end up being a Tyler Perry movie. 

 

Edit: And having to be subdued by a K-9 Officer? Interesting. 

The article didn't say the canine was a police dog.  Kinda misleading.  I'm hearing he slipped on wet grass and was violently humped by the neighbors Pomerians.

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2 minutes ago, H2o said:

I find the hit-and-run incident with the abandoned car quite interesting in this whole situation as well. This could end up being a Tyler Perry movie. 

Really not sure how interesting this is.  If that report is true, seems highly likely he was drunk driving, hit a wall, ruined the tires and limped to the nearest parking lot to try and hide.  What he did trying to get in the house I would assume, again trying to hide/escape.

 

So to me, on the face of it, drunk driving, hit and run.  If that we me, I would lose my license and probably do a little jail time.  My bet is this costs him a ton of legal $ and his celeb status, esp in Washington is also going to get him a slap on the hand.  That is my guess.

 

Yes his wife is correct, he didnt hurt anybody, he got luck real lucky, 

Posted
28 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:

 


This tweet goes out to all the people who don’t understand the definition of burglary or why it was charged as a domestic incident. 

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