DeSantis For President in 2024?

[The Frankish Reich]

4 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

In addition to using the term “enslaved” rather than “slave”

I see why people advocate for this new usage, but I'm not convinced that it is something to worry about.

I will note that many of the same people who are outraged (as well they should be) about sex trafficking seem o.k. about downplaying the systematic, state-sponsored trafficking of human beings in our history, even when that trafficking also included the rape of many women and girls by their "owners."

I've tried to point this out. Would anyone dream of saying, "Although modern child sex trafficking is horrific, some trafficked children ultimately benefited from being taken away from starvation, war, and disease to the United States, where they were able to use their survival skills to succeed in a land of abundance and freedom"

Edited July 28, 2023 by The Frankish Reich

[Joe Ferguson forever]

I like to look at the betting odds for elections.  They've been quite predictive recently, there's real money on the line and the incentive isn't political but financial

 

https://www.oddschecker.com/us/politics/us-politics

Edited July 28, 2023 by redtail hawk

[The Frankish Reich]

3 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

I like to look at the betting odds for elections.  They've been quite predictive recently, there's real money on the line and the incentive isn't political but financial

 

https://www.oddschecker.com/us/politics/us-politics

I like how Newsom is the 4th favorite, just a tick more probable than DeSantis! And also well above Kamala.

I've got a trip to the UK coming up in a bit. Maybe I should put some money on him.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

On 7/27/2023 at 12:59 AM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I’m in Florida for work stuff this week - holy ***** do these people love Desantis. Cab drivers, servers, Uber drivers, bartenders, corporate leaders, generally anyone you encounter that is working. They all have their different reasons but it has been consistent and overt. 

seems you didn't run into any of these folks

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/10/25/opinion/focusgroup-democrats-republicans-florida-desantis.html

 

last I knew, there were still some D's living in Fla.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

4 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

seems you didn't run into any of these folks

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/10/25/opinion/focusgroup-democrats-republicans-florida-desantis.html

 

last I knew, there were still some D's living in Fla.

As noted, these were specifically people that were working or in business. 
 

I’m sure the found some of those ‘educated’ 😂 gender studies grads under A bridge or at the local welfare office to get some democrat love…. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

5 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

As noted, these were specifically people that were working or in business. 
 

I’m sure the found some of those ‘educated’ 😂 gender studies grads under A bridge or at the local welfare office to get some democrat love…. 

Just another R lie...why do you 
MAGA's dislike truth so much.

https://dos.myflorida.com/elections/data-statistics/voter-registration-statistics/voter-registration-reports/voter-registration-by-party-affiliation/

 

and this

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/622494-florida-voters-still-like-ron-desantis-as-governor-and-side-with-him-over-disney/#:~:text=About 54% of voters say,%%2C say they strongly approve.

Edited July 28, 2023 by redtail hawk

[BillsFanNC]

Absolutely incredible that there remains those from the center and right who are completely unaware of where we are.

 

Any republican who occupies the White House will be impeached the moment democrats have the ability to do so. 

 

Guaranteed.

 

 

You do Jesse. The sky in your world isn't green.

 

 

[Doc]

8 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I see why people advocate for this new usage, but I'm not convinced that it is something to worry about.

I will note that many of the same people who are outraged (as well they should be) about sex trafficking seem o.k. about downplaying the systematic, state-sponsored trafficking of human beings in our history, even when that trafficking also included the rape of many women and girls by their "owners."

I've tried to point this out. Would anyone dream of saying, "Although modern child sex trafficking is horrific, some trafficked children ultimately benefited from being taken away from starvation, war, and disease to the United States, where they were able to use their survival skills to succeed in a land of abundance and freedom"

 

LOL!  Who?

[BillStime]

 

[The Frankish Reich]

41 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

LOL!  Who?

Umm, Ron DeSantis?

[Doc]

12 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Umm, Ron DeSantis?

 

Umm, he did?

[The Frankish Reich]

11 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Umm, he did?

Sometimes the smartest thing to do is to just keep your mouth shut. That was his approach when this little dust-up first hit, but he just couldn't stop himself from commenting and keeping it alive for another news cycle.

[Doc]

5 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Sometimes the smartest thing to do is to just keep your mouth shut. That was his approach when this little dust-up first hit, but he just couldn't stop himself from commenting and keeping it alive for another news cycle.

 

You really think ignoring it would have made it go away? 

[The Frankish Reich]

46 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

You really think ignoring it would have made it go away? 

Yes. It's a rule of politics. Let the news cycle run.

It would come back later (Tim Scott for one will try to keep it alive), but at least DeSantis could get back on track talking about transgenderism and wokism, the #1 issue on 1% of the country's mind according to a recent poll.

Smart guy, stupid campaign.

[Big Blitz]

He’s never left. 
 

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

 

 

[Orlando Buffalo]

3 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Sometimes the smartest thing to do is to just keep your mouth shut. That was his approach when this little dust-up first hit, but he just couldn't stop himself from commenting and keeping it alive for another news cycle.

This is a bad argument. Let the lie fly and just pretend it is not a lie. If someone blatantly  lies you call out the lie, or else you have to do that with all the lies. This is not a mistake, this is intentionally lying to get headlines. 

3 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Who are the black people being called out? 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

29 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

This is a bad argument. Let the lie fly and just pretend it is not a lie. If someone blatantly  lies you call out the lie, or else you have to do that with all the lies. This is not a mistake, this is intentionally lying to get headlines. 

This is solid gold...

[Doc]

11 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Yes. It's a rule of politics. Let the news cycle run.

It would come back later (Tim Scott for one will try to keep it alive), but at least DeSantis could get back on track talking about transgenderism and wokism, the #1 issue on 1% of the country's mind according to a recent poll.

Smart guy, stupid campaign.

 

You let a news cycle run, lying about something, and say nothing, basically tacitly agreeing with them?  No, that's not how it's done.  He did the right thing by responding and letting everyone know that black educators came up with the curriculum.  And now the news cycle has run its course because Kammy and the like look like idiots.  And Scott (and Byron Donalds, who are both Trump guys), would be wise to say nothing.

[Orlando Buffalo]

9 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

This is solid gold...

Interesting that you are siding with the people intentionally lying to get the ignorant riled up.