DeSantis For President in 2024?

[Pokebball]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

The Morning Consult survey shows the former president has 54% support among likely primary voters and DeSantis has 26%, tying his lowest score since the poll began in December.

Former President Donald Trump is widening his lead over the rest of the Republican primary field, according to a new Harvard CAPS/Harris poll.

In a hypothetical nine-way Republican presidential primary, Trump takes 58 percent support among GOP voters, adding 3 percentage points to his already-staggering lead since last month. His closest rival, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, notched only 16 percent in the survey – a 4-point downturn since the previous survey.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4012715-trump-widens-lead-over-desantis-in-gop-primary-poll/

Polling at this point doesn't mean much. DeSantis might not ever be able to catch Trump, but this is very early. Lot's can happen

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Morning Tibs

You can argue with his stance on certain things but aside from all of that, having recently visited Florida and living in California, they’re doing something right down there. California has ‘devolved’ into an absolute dump whereas I found Florida to be clean and extremely well maintained. Both are huge population centers with good weather, but somehow Florida has managed to handle it all without turning into an outright aesthetic sh$t hole. (And from what I understand without a State income tax.) The contrast between the two is incredible and really needs some serious study in public policy. 

The California vs Florida debate, to me, is the most accurate.

 

You will always have northeast/midwest folks that want to move south due to the weather. It just so happens that the northeast/midwest (outside Ohio) tend to be lean blue or deep blue.  The southern states all tend to be lean red or deep red.  
 

However, California is a different story.  It is the most beautiful state in this country, with amazing weather.  Yet people are fleeing.   
 

And under Ron DeSantis, even with heavy influx states like Texas, Tennessee, Georgia and The Carolinas, Florida leads the way in population growth. 
 

Edited May 25, 2023 by SCBills

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Governor said:

He came to my house on his bicycle. I was sold after that.

 

[SCBills]

17 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

Polling at this point doesn't mean much. DeSantis might not ever be able to catch Trump, but this is very early. Lot's can happen

DeSantis has a ton of money and is incredibly disciplined & organized.

 

He also takes chances.  Sometimes it pays off… sometimes you run the risk of a mixed bag with the Twitter launch. 
 

All that being said … they are investing HEAVY in grassroots, never before seen levels of organization on the ground, in the early primary states. 
 

That’s what it will come down to, imo.   And I think think this is their calculation also.  
 

Make Trump look vulnerable.   If they can win Iowa and win one of SC or NH, Trump won’t look inevitable and people may start to flip in other primaries. 

[JaCrispy]

53 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

No personality

You’re absolutely right- because no one lights up a room like “Tales From The Crypt” Joe Biden…😉

 

 

Edited May 25, 2023 by JaCrispy

[SoCal Deek]

9 minutes ago, SCBills said:

The California vs Florida debate, to me, is the most accurate.

 

You will always have northeast/midwest folks that want to move south due to the weather. It just so happens that the northeast/midwest (outside Ohio) tend to be lean blue or deep blue.  The southern states all tend to be lean red or deep red.  
 

However, California is a different story.  It is the most beautiful state in this country, with amazing weather.  Yet people are fleeing.   
 

And under Ron DeSantis, even with heavy influx states like Texas, Tennessee, Georgia and The Carolinas, Florida leads the way in population growth. 
 

California is NATURALLY beautiful but having lived here now for over forty years I can tell you that the MAN MADE ‘improvements’ are crumbling fast. The once well maintained freeway system is a graffiti and pot hole infested eyesore. The cities are completely overrun with homelessness. And the utility infrastructure is woefully inadequate. In short…to quote Irv…it’s a mess! And anyone who lives here knows it. 
 

I appreciate everyone’s responses in Florida but I’ve not met a single Californian who doesn’t come back from visiting there with a similar first impression. 

[Pokebball]

8 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

California is NATURALLY beautiful but having lived here now for over forty years I can tell you that the MAN MADE ‘improvements’ are crumbling fast. The once well maintained freeway system is a graffiti and pot hole infested eyesore. The cities are completely overrun with homelessness. And the utility infrastructure is woefully inadequate. In short…to quote Irv…it’s a mess! And anyone who lives here knows it. 
 

I appreciate everyone’s responses in Florida but I’ve not met a single Californian who doesn’t come back from visiting there with a similar first impression. 

Of everything the left has really screwed up, CA is #1

[Tiberius]

27 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

You’re absolutely right- because no one lights up a room like “Tales From The Crypt” Joe Biden…😉

 

 

He does communicate well, actually. But not in a bloviating, hateful manner that the GOP loves 

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, SUNY_amherst said:

 

thats funny to me. I'd like to meet these people. As an East Coaster my whole life its pretty much known the Florida, real Florida is like the butthole of the East

Interesting 

Have you been to California in the last ten years? It’s almost unrecognizable. Sad. 

[The Frankish Reich]

1 hour ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

wait what now? lol outside of the Keys,  Florida is dirty and trashy.

 

-The upper half of the state is all trailer parks in the swamp, closer to Alabama then anything else.

-Then you got most of the coasts being "NY South" with old, Northerner retirees. they live in trailers too but nicer than the white trash ones of the swamp  

 

The keys are cool though, but I dont think that has anything to do with any politician. God made those beautiful

 

 

 

Yeah, I'm not sure Florida has any bragging rights on the "We're Not Trashy" index.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

Meanwhile. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . back at the Desantis thread.

 

 

 

 

Bret Baier Throws Cold Water on DeSantis Run: ‘Something Has to Change Dramatically’ For Him to Win

by Ken Meyer

 

Fox News’s Bret Baier assessed that the 2024 Republican primary will have to experience an earth-shaking development for Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R) to surpass former President Donald Trump. Baier joined America Reports to react to the news that DeSantis will officially join the 2024 presidential race in an upcoming Twitter Spaces event with Elon Musk. The Special Report anchor began with a nod to Fox contributor Karl Rove, who spoke before him about how Trump currently leads the GOP — adding things could change as the race goes on. (snip) noted the reality that Trump still “overwhelmingly” tops DeSantis in the polls.

 

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/bret-baier-throws-cold-water-on-desantis-run-something-has-to-change-dramatically-for-him-to-win/

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

Yes I have, I really liked San Diego. I also really liked the mountains near Tahoe. LA was kinda drab. I would never live in California but it is definetely better than Florida

So what is your explanation for so many northerners moving to Florida and so many Californians leaving Cali for Arizona, Texas, Montana and Idaho?

 

Both beautiful states in terms of geography and weather.   In fact Cali beats anyone with the ocean & mountains along with more moderate temps and lesser humidity.   The state has every resource necessary to be THE cornerstone state of America, yet people are leaving in droves. 

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

Meanwhile. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . back at the Desantis thread.

 

 

 

 

Bret Baier Throws Cold Water on DeSantis Run: ‘Something Has to Change Dramatically’ For Him to Win

by Ken Meyer

 

Fox News’s Bret Baier assessed that the 2024 Republican primary will have to experience an earth-shaking development for Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R) to surpass former President Donald Trump. Baier joined America Reports to react to the news that DeSantis will officially join the 2024 presidential race in an upcoming Twitter Spaces event with Elon Musk. The Special Report anchor began with a nod to Fox contributor Karl Rove, who spoke before him about how Trump currently leads the GOP — adding things could change as the race goes on. (snip) noted the reality that Trump still “overwhelmingly” tops DeSantis in the polls.

 

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/bret-baier-throws-cold-water-on-desantis-run-something-has-to-change-dramatically-for-him-to-win/

Personality transplant? 

 

I said it before, he's this cycle's Scott Walker 

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

Meanwhile. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . back at the Desantis thread.

 

 

 

 

Bret Baier Throws Cold Water on DeSantis Run: ‘Something Has to Change Dramatically’ For Him to Win

by Ken Meyer

 

Fox News’s Bret Baier assessed that the 2024 Republican primary will have to experience an earth-shaking development for Florida Governor Ron DeSantis (R) to surpass former President Donald Trump. Baier joined America Reports to react to the news that DeSantis will officially join the 2024 presidential race in an upcoming Twitter Spaces event with Elon Musk. The Special Report anchor began with a nod to Fox contributor Karl Rove, who spoke before him about how Trump currently leads the GOP — adding things could change as the race goes on. (snip) noted the reality that Trump still “overwhelmingly” tops DeSantis in the polls.

 

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/bret-baier-throws-cold-water-on-desantis-run-something-has-to-change-dramatically-for-him-to-win/

DeSantis is not going to get any favorable coverage from MSM. 

 

He’s made the calculus to spite them.  Right or wrong, he believes in new media and only throws MSM scraps.  
 

They will make him pay for that.  
 

Leftist media desperately wants Trump for ratings and the more beatable candidate for Biden.  
 

Rightwing old guard media, Fox specifically, did not take kindly to DeSantis announcing on Twitter over traditional media.  

[Doc]

Joke doesn't stand a chance.

[The Frankish Reich]

Just now, SCBills said:

DeSantis is not going to get any favorable coverage from MSM. 

 

He’s made the calculus to spite them.  Right or wrong, he believes in new media and only throws MSM scraps.  
 

They will make him pay for that.  
 

Leftist media desperately wants Trump for ratings and the more beatable candidate for Biden.  
 

Rightwing old guard media, Fox specifically, did not take kindly to DeSantis announcing on Twitter over traditional media.  

There's about a dozen Republican would-be presidents (Cruz, Rubio, Walker, Christie, Carson, Pence .... we can go on and on) who learned the hard way: not hitting back at Trump is the surest path to irrelevance. 

DeSantis needs to grow a pair. Right now the only case he's making for himself is "I'm Trump Jr." There's already a Trump Jr. He's smart, he has a pretty appealing resume (at least in the abstract, until he turned himself into the Troll of the Everglades), he shouldn't be so frightened.

[aristocrat]

3 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:

northerners (retirees) move to Florida because they are old and tired of shoveling snow

 

idk if the rest of your stuff is even accurate. People are leaving California for Idaho? I feel bad for those people

 

You've never been to idaho? it's beautiful. Especially the Coeur D"alene area. A gem to few people know about. Had an amazing weekend there

[SCBills]

6 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

There's about a dozen Republican would-be presidents (Cruz, Rubio, Walker, Christie, Carson, Pence .... we can go on and on) who learned the hard way: not hitting back at Trump is the surest path to irrelevance. 

DeSantis needs to grow a pair. Right now the only case he's making for himself is "I'm Trump Jr." There's already a Trump Jr. He's smart, he has a pretty appealing resume (at least in the abstract, until he turned himself into the Troll of the Everglades), he shouldn't be so frightened.

I actually agree. 
 

He has to go at Trump, by name, aggressively.  
 

Worry about winning back his supporters after the primary.  

[Governor]

He can’t attack Trump or there will be a line of people on a stage who were previous neighbors of Ronnie, talking about the wife beatings and the screaming they witnessed.

[SCBills]

9 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said:

northerners (retirees) move to Florida because they are old and tired of shoveling snow

 

idk if the rest of your stuff is even accurate. People are leaving California for Idaho? I feel bad for those people

Yes.. that’s been the pattern, pre-DeSantis.  I’m from Long Island.  I know all about the retiree NY - FL pipeline.  
 

That’s not what’s happening now. 
 

Families are uprooting and moving to Florida at a massive rate.   High wealth individuals are leaving NYC for Miami, Tampa etc.  Young professionals and business owners are relocating to Florida given NY’s pandemic response and subsequent consequences.