DeSantis For President in 2024?

[daz28]

37 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Because the right thinks it just an issue for women; not the men who are 50% responsible for EVERY pregnancy.

In some ways, but they are 'supposedly' for some things that help men bear their responsibilities of fatherhood.  This argument also falls onto the plate of personal responsibility(for both parents).  I feel that women should have the much louder voice in the discussion.

[BillStime]

2 minutes ago, daz28 said:

In some ways, but they are 'supposedly' for some things that help men bear their responsibilities of fatherhood.  This argument also falls onto the plate of personal responsibility(for both parents).  I feel that women should have the much louder voice in the discussion.

The GQP is taking away the right to practice personal responsibility - but that’s what communists do.
 

Right @BillsFanNC? @LeviF?

 

 

[daz28]

8 minutes ago, BillStime said:

The GQP is taking away the right to practice personal responsibility - but that’s what communists do.
 

Right @BillsFanNC? @LeviF?

 

 

If the GQP had a plan that would ensure most of the children would live a good life, I'd probably join that position.  Unfortunately, they only have their morals, but no practical application for them.

17 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

If the tools are there, and people aren't utilizing them, and you're unhappy with that, then you should probably change something.

How would I go about changing other people's lack of personal responsibility? Lobby for taxing abortions?  I mean if the penalties for most crimes are monetary to promote more responsibility, then that's an option.  Don't know if I'd support it, though.

[Big Blitz]

33 minutes ago, daz28 said:

If the GQP had a plan that would ensure most of the children would live a good life, I'd probably join that position.  Unfortunately, they only have their morals, but no practical application for them.

 

That’s your baseline for legislation? …… and whether or not a child is killed in the womb or right after birth?  If we can guarantee a “good life?”

 

Wow.  I’m not surprised.  

 

That’s Leftism 2023.  

 

 

 

 

How about we guaranteed the child lives?

 

That work?    

 

 

 

 

[JaCrispy]

16 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

That’s your baseline for legislation? …… and whether or not a child is killed in the womb or right after birth?  If we can guarantee a “good life?”

 

Wow.  I’m not surprised.  

 

That’s Leftism 2023.  

 

 

 

 

How about we guaranteed the child lives?

 

That work?    

 

 

 

 

[Roundybout]

DeSantis ain’t making it out of the primary 

[daz28]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

 

That’s your baseline for legislation? …… and whether or not a child is killed in the womb or right after birth?  If we can guarantee a “good life?”

 

Wow.  I’m not surprised.  

 

That’s Leftism 2023.  

 

 

 

 

How about we guaranteed the child lives?

 

That work?    

 

 

 

 

You might want to note my previous posts on accepting the ramifications, or taking responsibility for the consequences of your stance on abortion.  What's your stance on millions of unwanted children, other than then unrealistic adoption approach.  Is wanting to have a plan to secure for their well being not part of a good policy??   I'll also reiterate for you, because apparently what I've already said seems to have gone past you, that I understand most of both sides points for why they support their stance.  Killing a fetus in the womb isn't something I condone, but I also understand why some people do.  I also believe a living person has more rights than a fetus.  Anyways, to reiterate a third point for you, this is why I usually avoid abortion discussion.

Edited April 18, 2023 by daz28

[Orlando Buffalo]

8 hours ago, SUNY_amherst said:

 

I understand you live in Florida where books are banned but elsewhere we have studied American history

You still have not shown me anything, not that I am surprised you are just a liar.

[BillStime]

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[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gov. DeSantis: "Disney needs to abide by the same laws as anyone else"

 

Media: "LITERALLY FASCISM!"

[Roundybout]

19 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gov. DeSantis: "Disney needs to abide by the same laws as anyone else"

 

Media: "LITERALLY FASCISM!"

Sounds like communism to me 

[ChiGoose]

 

[L Ron Burgundy]

21 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

That is insane.   Haley picking up steam too?  Yikes we need better candidates.   Sad this is the best we can do.  It's almost going to guarantee Joe runs (and wins) again which is also not good.  Need new blood desperately. 

[Roundybout]

What a lovely little dictatorship he’s got going down there 

16 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

That is insane.   Haley picking up steam too?  Yikes we need better candidates.   Sad this is the best we can do.  It's almost going to guarantee Joe runs (and wins) again which is also not good.  Need new blood desperately. 

I’m telling you, Murkowski should give it a shot. 

[B-Man]

27 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

What a lovely little dictatorship he’s got going down there 

I’m telling you, Murkowski should give it a shot. 

 

 

Always be suspicious when a link isn't provided.

 

Mr Garcia is referring to this.

 

https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/1616

 

CS/SB 1616: Public Records/Transportation and Protective Services

PUBLIC RECORDS/GENERAL BILL by Rules ; Martin

Public Records/Transportation and Protective Services; Providing an exemption from public records requirements for records held by a law enforcement agency relating to certain security or transportation services; providing for retroactive application; providing for legislative review and repeal of the exemption; providing a statement of public necessity, etc.

 

 

 

READ PAST THE NARRATIVE HEADLINE !

 

 

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[ChiGoose]

2 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

That is insane.   Haley picking up steam too?  Yikes we need better candidates.   Sad this is the best we can do.  It's almost going to guarantee Joe runs (and wins) again which is also not good.  Need new blood desperately. 

The GOP base generally has Very Online Brain and will not accept anyone who lives in the real world as their candidate, which hurts the party in the general. 
 

If you’re a Republican whose brain hasn’t been rotted by the internet, why would you run? There’s no path for you. 

[Doc]

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

Always be suspicious when a link isn't provided.

 

Mr Garcia is referring to this.

 

https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/1616

 

CS/SB 1616: Public Records/Transportation and Protective Services

PUBLIC RECORDS/GENERAL BILL by Rules ; Martin

Public Records/Transportation and Protective Services; Providing an exemption from public records requirements for records held by a law enforcement agency relating to certain security or transportation services; providing for retroactive application; providing for legislative review and repeal of the exemption; providing a statement of public necessity, etc.

 

 

 

READ PAST THE NARRATIVE HEADLINE !

 

Shocking that they're lying about DeSantis. 

[The Frankish Reich]

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/trump/2023/04/19/trump-criticizes-desantis-on-disney-with-economic-disaster-in-florida/70129695007/

 

Ronnie, you will not beat Trump at his own game ....

[Doc]

Just now, The Frankish Reich said:

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/trump/2023/04/19/trump-criticizes-desantis-on-disney-with-economic-disaster-in-florida/70129695007/

 

Ronnie, you will not beat Trump at his own game ....

 

If they were to debate, DeSantis would ask Trump "where would they go"?

[The Frankish Reich]

Just now, Doc said:

 

If they were to debate, DeSantis would ask Trump "where would they go"?

Not the point. DeSantis just gave Trump an opening to present himself - Trump! - as the reasonable guy rather than the grandstanding fool. Hard to accomplish, but Meatball Ron just did it.