Uncle Vontae Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 (edited) Say in retrospect we had the foresight of an altered college season & opt-outs allowing Greg to be 'eligible' and declare for 2020 draft We can agree that Chase is #1 DE @ 1-2-2 to WFT But the rest of the DE class required 'development' or had question marks like the 2021 class Based on the Bills 2021 draft selection Rousseau's floor would be pick 2-22-54 1-2-2 Chase Young Ohio State ------- 1-20-20 K'Lavon Chaisson LSU 2-6-38 Yetor Gross Matos Penn State 2-16-48 Darrell Taylor Tennessee 2-22-54 AJ Epenesa Iowa ------- 3-15-79 Jabari Zuniga Florida Jacksonville selects Groot at 20 What if Basham was also eligible in 2020 and thrown in the mix just for fun? Would the Bills still choose AJ over Boogie at 2-22-54? Edited July 6, 2021 by Uncle Vontae 3
Buffalo716 Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 You need to be 3 years removed from high school to enter the NFL draft He would never be eligible in 2020. It's literally a hypothetical that could never happen 5 1 1 4 2 2
machine gun kelly Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 Vontae, As you’re new at least in posting, you might want to hang back, read the posters and just reply for awhile, as thus was a rookie mistake. Not a big deal, but others who were new made the same mistakes. You certainly won’t be the last. 1 2
GunnerBill Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 If I look at my top 6 edge grades across the last two drafts it is: 1. Chase Young (the only one across two classes I have a 1st round grade on). 2. K'Lavon Chaisson (1st / 2nd borderline) 3. Kwity Paye (1st / 2nd borderline) 4. Jaelen Phillips (high 2nd) 5. AJ Epenesa (high 2nd) 6. Gregory Rousseau (high 2nd) Basically #2 to #6 are within 0.2 points of each other by my grading system. It is Young and then a load of closely bunched guys. Just for completeness Basham would be my #19 edge across the last two classes. 4 1
RobbRiddick Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 (edited) Welcome Vontae, please don't quit halfway through post Edited July 6, 2021 by RobbRiddick 5
SoCal Deek Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 I’m not totally sure what the flaming is all about but I believe the OP was making a comment on the strength and depth of the past two year’s DE draft classes. Now, that same point could be made about any number of players and often times in the inverse…enter EJ Manual, for instance. 4
JaCrispy Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’m not totally sure what the flaming is all about but I believe the OP was making a comment on the strength and depth of the past two year’s DE draft classes. Now, that same point could be made about any number of players and often times in the inverse…enter EJ Manual, for instance. Flamers gonna flame...🤣 2
TheyCallMeAndy Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 We have a 3rd Ertz thread of 20+, a thread about Josh Allen’s dog, and the daily ‘someone said something mean about this team’ thread. Yet we are patronizing a new poster who posted something thoughtful and interesting. Makes sense. 3 5 3
dollars 2 donuts Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 6 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: Vontae, As you’re new at least in posting, you might want to hang back, read the posters and just reply for awhile, as thus was a rookie mistake. Not a big deal, but others who were new made the same mistakes. You certainly won’t be the last. When Guns was new around here he used to write, "Matt Kofler (RIP) and Dan Manucci were great QBs who never got a fair shot!", and "Lonnie Johnson could be something very special at TE in this League", and "blue cheese is for losers." It was adorable. 😂 JK, brother...38 days and counting. 2
Mr. WEO Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 even if he was eligible, how does he go "20, max"? Ahead of Chaisson?
machine gun kelly Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 21 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: When Guns was new around here he used to write, "Matt Kofler (RIP) and Dan Manucci were great QBs who never got a fair shot!", and "Lonnie Johnson could be something very special at TE in this League", and "blue cheese is for losers." It was adorable. 😂 JK, brother...38 days and counting. Don’t forget I thought M. Williams, James Hardy (RIP), and Maybin we’re going to be AWESOME! Ah, to be young. 🤪🤩🏋️♂️🦬 1
TheyCallMeAndy Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, machine gun kelly said: Don’t forget I thought M. Williams, James Hardy (RIP), and Maybin we’re going to be AWESOME! Ah, to be young. 🤪🤩🏋️♂️🦬 I thought Donte Whitner and Ko Simpson would be our starting duo for decades! Edited July 6, 2021 by TheyCallMeAndy 1 1
transient Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 I didn't know we could use gifs in our avatars... 🤷♀️ Color me equal parts fascinated, distracted, and annoyed. 1 1 1
Buffalo Boy Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 55 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: We have a 3rd Ertz thread of 20+, a thread about Josh Allen’s dog, and the daily ‘someone said something mean about this team’ thread. Yet we are patronizing a new poster who posted something thoughtful and interesting. Makes sense. That is the way this board rolls😐 1
Rocky Landing Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 I would say that were Rousseau to have not opted out, and had progressed in his system, and had a moderately better 2019 than his 2018, then yeah, Rousseau is a top 20 pick. And, I think this is what McD, and Beane are banking on. Add his obvious athleticism, and versatility, and he is a classic McD/Beane pick. And the fact that he is raw, and coachable makes him a perfect fit for the front-line rotational scheme that the Bills deploy. Potential for bust? Sure. But, in my homerist opinion, the Bills will be the perfect system for someone like Rousseau to succeed. 4
Reader Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 2 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: We have a 3rd Ertz thread of 20+, a thread about Josh Allen’s dog, and the daily ‘someone said something mean about this team’ thread. Yet we are patronizing a new poster who posted something thoughtful and interesting. Makes sense. To be fair, I'm not convinced this isn't in direct response from the 'someone said something mean about this team' thread with Chris Simms. 1
Matt_In_NH Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 speculation.....it seems like there is a consensus that this years draft was lacking in talent compared to most because of Covid. The Bills went for measurables and a guy that is a project who has high upside but is also a risk. I doubt he would have went 20 max but we will also never know....lets see what he becomes. I have faith in this coaching staff to develop players so I am optimistic.
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 6, 2021 Posted July 6, 2021 OP got the player's name correct. Points for that! Which is more than can be said for some...🤨 3 2
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