Saxum Posted June 30, 2021 Posted June 30, 2021 He is going to sit out for more money when they move him to LT and many here will agree with him. 1
BillsShredder83 Posted June 30, 2021 Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) On 6/30/2021 at 9:51 PM, Limeaid said: He is going to sit out for more money when they move him to LT and many here will agree with him. Expand If thats the game plan than yes, its dirty pool by NO Edited June 30, 2021 by BillsShredder83
Virgil Posted June 30, 2021 Author Posted June 30, 2021 On 6/30/2021 at 8:32 PM, Gugny said: Me. Expand Always 1
Reader Posted June 30, 2021 Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) Stephon Gilmore just died a little. Sure one is a RT and one is a CB, but still. Edited June 30, 2021 by Reader
JohnBonhamRocks Posted June 30, 2021 Posted June 30, 2021 Makes me appreciate the value on Williams’ new deal even more
hmsmystic Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 It's bad news for every franchise when a team overpays and ups the market for a players price. Agents get cocky and players at the same position demand even more money. CJ Mosley, Ragnow, Jalen Ramsey, Dak, Elliott and some recent safety deals are examples Sure it's great for the players, but bad for the teams 1
Big Turk Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 On 6/30/2021 at 8:16 PM, Virgil said: Am I missing something here? He’s a right tackle. This is crazy money! Expand Right tackle...Left tackle... don't make as much of a difference anymore since the DLine moves people all over now. 3
fasteddie Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 On 6/30/2021 at 8:29 PM, First Round Bust said: Expand Am I that old that I can remember watching that show? Of course, we only had 3 channels. 1 1
Thurman#1 Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) On 6/30/2021 at 8:16 PM, Virgil said: Am I missing something here? He’s a right tackle. This is crazy money! Expand Anytime you see someone talking about an umpteen-million dollar EXTENSION, understand that the figure is NOT based on what the guy will be receiving per year, but instead on how much positive spin can be applied to make a contract look better on the player's side. He was due to count $11M this year, but along with the extension, that $11M has been reduced, but we don't know how much. Say for example he ends up getting $5M this year. That'd make the whole deal 6 years and on the order of $95M, which is still a lot, on the order of $16M, but not as much as the headline would make you think. Now, how much money at the end of the contract is back-loaded and unguaranteed? The devil's in the details. Edited July 1, 2021 by Thurman#1 1
machine gun kelly Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 Thurm, I was thinking the same like the Hill deal which is crap.
Doc Brown Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 On 7/1/2021 at 8:51 AM, Thurman#1 said: Anytime you see someone talking about an umpteen-million dollar EXTENSION, understand that the figure is NOT based on what the guy will be receiving per year, but instead on how much positive spin can be applied to make a contract look better on the player's side. He was due to count $11M this year, but along with the extension, that $11M has been reduced, but we don't know how much. Say for example he ends up getting $5M this year. That'd make the whole deal 6 years and on the order of $95M, which is still a lot, on the order of $16M, but not as much as the headline would make you think. Now, how much money at the end of the contract is back-loaded and unguaranteed? The devil's in the details. Expand I always look at the guaranteed money for my simple mind as agents tend to hype player contracts based on inflated annual averages. Ramczyk got 60 million guaranteed on a 5 year extension (10 million per year). Compare that to Dawkins who got 29.6 million guaranteed on a four year extension (about 6 million per year) and D. Williams three year deal (about 4.6 million per year). It makes both the Dawkins and Williams deal seem like a bargain. 1
Captain Hindsight Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 On 6/30/2021 at 8:40 PM, Victory Formation said: If you don’t have a QB, what position does matter exactly? Expand 1 2
White Linen Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 On 6/30/2021 at 10:58 PM, frostbitmic said: A trade for Watson on the horizon ? Expand Why not, they have plenty of cap space.
Virgil Posted July 1, 2021 Author Posted July 1, 2021 On 7/1/2021 at 8:51 AM, Thurman#1 said: Anytime you see someone talking about an umpteen-million dollar EXTENSION, understand that the figure is NOT based on what the guy will be receiving per year, but instead on how much positive spin can be applied to make a contract look better on the player's side. He was due to count $11M this year, but along with the extension, that $11M has been reduced, but we don't know how much. Say for example he ends up getting $5M this year. That'd make the whole deal 6 years and on the order of $95M, which is still a lot, on the order of $16M, but not as much as the headline would make you think. Now, how much money at the end of the contract is back-loaded and unguaranteed? The devil's in the details. Expand Agree 100%. Even till, that's a crap ton of guaranteed money and the optics for a RT just looks absurd.
frostbitmic Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 On 7/1/2021 at 1:40 PM, White Linen said: Why not, they have plenty of cap space. Expand Cap space is a myth. 2
DrDawkinstein Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 On 6/30/2021 at 8:21 PM, LeGOATski said: Weren't the Saints in cap hell? Why and how are they doing this? Expand Once again, I say, "the cap is a myth". Or at least flexible enough that us fans should never worry about it. 1
DrDawkinstein Posted July 1, 2021 Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) On 7/1/2021 at 1:52 PM, Virgil said: Agree 100%. Even till, that's a crap ton of guaranteed money and the optics for a RT just looks absurd. Expand Dont get too caught up in the LT vs RT. Ramczyk is arguably the best RT in the NFL, and could likely make the transition to LT if needed. Armstead is pretty good, but is going into the last year of his contract. So might as well leave him at LT and Ramczyk at RT for now. Maybe slide him over if/when Armstead goes. Edited July 1, 2021 by DrDawkinstein
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