PrimeTime101 Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 11 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Most people here expect a regression. Not a huge one. They still have him top 7 for QB's. Yea... Most people here do not thing he will regress . Active poll says your wrong.
Albany,n.y. Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 9 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: The publication that put Duck Hodges in the same conversation as Josh?! Yea, ok! I remember the night game in Pittsburgh against the Duck where the Steelers were favored. I couldn't believe it, all I could say was Josh Allen vs Duck Hodges as I raced to the casino to bet the Bills on the money line. 1
BigDingus Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 13 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: Heres some thoughts on Allens ranking. Starts at the 3:20 mark. Both of them made too much sense here. Even if you think Josh will regress in 2021, how can you say with a straight face 39 other players are better than him when he was #2 in MVP voting? lol Hell, I think Josh will regress *STATISTICALLY* but still has room to grow even better, especially mentally. Each year he becomes a better leader, and the longer he's around, the more comfortable he'll be in the pocket. If the game continues to slow down for him, his decision making will improve even more. So if this is taking into account what they'll do going forward, Allen at 40 is even dumber than only factoring in the last 3 years. 1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said: Yea... Most people here do not thing he will regress . Active poll says your wrong. Maybe he means most non-Bills fans? I dunno, I've heard that a lot. But most of the people I've talked to are kinda in the same boat as me. They think it's very likely his numbers on paper will regress, but he as a player will get better. It's pretty hard to put up 40+ total TD's each year, so it's ok if he doesn't match that this season. What matters is how well he plays in those big games, stays healthy, and limits turnovers. That'll be more than enough as long as we can field a competent run defense (and maybe find a running game of our own). 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 4 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: Yea... Most people here do not thing he will regress . Active poll says your wrong. Lol people are so sensitive. Allen will likely regress. I'm sorry to break this news to you. If he has another 40+ TD year great, it just doesn't happen often. Even the greatest QB's of all time have regressed after seasons like that. Don't expect another 40+TD year.
without a drought Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 Maybe the Bills could trade Allen and Diggs for someone good.
dollars 2 donuts Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 11 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: Or stone them… (insert PFF for Jehovah) Now we know the scroll guy is Hap. 😇, name the other guys… Thanks for the laugh Donuts. Quotes from: God Father I and II Swingers Tommy Boy Clips from: Holy Grail Life of Brian The Meaning of Life Shall always be welcome to my eyes and ears, Guns. 1 1
Royale with Cheese Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 So Chris Simms is on PFT going through his top QB's. He's at #4 with Watson and Allen hasn't been mentioned yet....so he's top 3. Tune in now if you want to hear his take on Allen.
Stank_Nasty Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 14 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: So Chris Simms is on PFT going through his top QB's. He's at #4 with Watson and Allen hasn't been mentioned yet....so he's top 3. Tune in now if you want to hear his take on Allen. He’s at 2. There’s a whole thread on it. Lol.
Royale with Cheese Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 Just now, Stank_Nasty said: He’s at 2. There’s a whole thread on it. Lol. Don't hurt my feelings. 2
NewEra Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 22 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Most people here expect a regression. Not a huge one. They still have him top 7 for QB's. No. Most people don’t feel that way at all
Stank_Nasty Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Don't hurt my feelings.
Big Gun Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Lol people are so sensitive. Allen will likely regress. I'm sorry to break this news to you. If he has another 40+ TD year great, it just doesn't happen often. Even the greatest QB's of all time have regressed after seasons like that. Don't expect another 40+TD year. Hahahaha........ok! that's comical, because you so smaht!
Royale with Cheese Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Stank_Nasty said: Oreo? 5 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Lol people are so sensitive. Allen will likely regress. I'm sorry to break this news to you. If he has another 40+ TD year great, it just doesn't happen often. Even the greatest QB's of all time have regressed after seasons like that. Don't expect another 40+TD year. Wasn’t his point….
hondo in seattle Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 22 hours ago, cd1 said: Just "click bait". Sure. PFF isn't 'real' football work. While teams do subscribe to PFF, I don't think many coaches or scouts concern themselves with it very much. PFF exists to entertain. Their job is to create content that gets attention and drives sales. You can't blame them for doing their job. I do read power and player rankings from time to time but I don't really care what they say. I'm pretty confident I know the Bills better than any of the national media gurus or stat geeks. Most of us here do. I don't need them to validate my opinions.
YattaOkasan Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 53 minutes ago, Big Gun said: Hahahaha........ok! that's comical, because you so smaht! I wonder what his thoughts were on Josh coming into last year. I was excited but was still blown away by how well he did. I also like that PFF hasn't recognized that Josh sits outside the data set they use to make their predictions. One thing that site is good at is the non interpretative stats during different personnel groupings, down and distance, etc. Their grades though lack critical context and I don't think are that valuable to the NFL community.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, NewEra said: No. Most people don’t feel that way at all Those that don't really know what they're talking about then. Go find me all the QB's with back to back 40+ TD seasons. Another thing is you should expect the Bills offense to regress some also. Edited June 24, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede
Frat-Train Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Those that don't really know what they're talking about then. Go find me all the QB's with back to back 40+ TD seasons. Another thing is you should expect the Bills offense to regress some also. I’m in the small camp of thinkers that think he takes his game further, rather than regressing. No statistics to back it, it’s just from watching him progress and knowing that everyone could possibly take a step forward given the year of consistency that they’ll have before this season.
34-78-83 Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, Frat-Train said: I’m in the small camp of thinkers that think he takes his game further, rather than regressing. No statistics to back it, it’s just from watching him progress and knowing that everyone could possibly take a step forward given the year of consistency that they’ll have before this season. Well that's just it, exactly. Let's say the Bills in 2021 are 5-10% better in the running game, thus statistically giving more of the offensive total yardage for the season to the running game. Meanwhile Josh is playing in yet another year of the same system, is even better at reading defensive coverages and schemes, and has more continuity with his teammates. Joshes #'s in this scenario likely will be slightly lower than last years overall passing stats. But is Josh a worse QB? Certainly not. In fact he'd be a better QB. Is the offense not even better with the added threat of the running game? Still you will see articles claiming they were all correct about Josh's "regression" and patting themselves on the back. PFF does track some good information, but like everything else out there it needs to be used in the proper context if its going to be used at all for anything other than entertainment. 1
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Frat-Train said: I’m in the small camp of thinkers that think he takes his game further, rather than regressing. No statistics to back it, it’s just from watching him progress and knowing that everyone could possibly take a step forward given the year of consistency that they’ll have before this season. I said earlier he'll regress statistically and still become a more efficient QB. Statistical regression doesn't mean he's bad. It's hard to put up 40+ total TD'S every year, no one has done it. Not even Mahomes. He had a statistical regression after his 50 TD season. Back to back years has happened but it's just rare. Edited June 24, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede 2
PrimeTime101 Posted June 24, 2021 Posted June 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Lol people are so sensitive. Allen will likely regress. I'm sorry to break this news to you. If he has another 40+ TD year great, it just doesn't happen often. Even the greatest QB's of all time have regressed after seasons like that. Don't expect another 40+TD year. The quote below is the statement you said. I new you were so far wrong that I created a poll. PROVES you are wrong that most people do not think he will regress. IF you had said some think he will aggress then I understand. Now you call us sensitive cause your proven wrong and you continue to act like gods gift that it is FACTUAL that he regresses. I care what you expect that's on you and you have every right to your opinion. But Don't act like its factual "like it or not" your way or the high way attitude around here and then draw us into it like you thought everyone else agrees with you.. then you call us sensitive... Sorry we love Josh.. Sorry we think he will improve. Your word isnt the final word. stop acting it. On 6/23/2021 at 11:51 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said: Most people here expect a regression. Not a huge one. They still have him top 7 for QB's.
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