Buffalo716 Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 Yes, you read that right.. the founding fathers were staunchly liberal Freedom of speech , press , assembly, religion, capitalism The right to bear arms All exclusively liberal ideologies... You will never find a fascist regime that gives you the rights to any of those Yet why do modern liberals oppose these more than anything? Cancel culture en masse... If you say or do anything that offends them they're coming for you .. socialism on the rise in democratic party Liberalism was founded on the principle of individual freedoms.. not just individual freedoms for liberals, but for everybody But if you don't agree with the left, they call you racist, bigot, homophobe, fascist and they will try to cancel you Looking back in a greater context, it's very easy to see that the liberal ideologies that our great country was founded on.. are being upheld by conservative people in this country Freedom of speech, press, assembly, religion, right to bear arms, states rights , capitalism Are all forefront to members of the conservative party... Yet people who call themselves liberal, are tying to censor speech, and press.. have gone after freedom of assembly.. and the right to bear arms And it's the conservatives who are upholding American traditions and values 1 1
716er Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) What would you do with the Dems? Do you have a final solution? Edited June 21, 2021 by 716er
Orlando Buffalo Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, 716er said: What would you do with the Dems? Do you have a final solution? Yes, try and explain to them how demented their view points are and if that does not work then make fun of them for their stupidity until they just shut up.
716er Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Yes, try and explain to them how demented their view points are and if that does not work then make fun of them for their stupidity until they just shut up. Cancel them. Genius.
Buftex Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Yes, try and explain to them how demented their view points are and if that does not work then make fun of them for their stupidity until they just shut up. Hasn't worked with the Mango-morons! 1
Buffalo716 Posted June 21, 2021 Author Posted June 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, 716er said: What would you do with the Dems? Do you have a final solution? Yeah this is America There was a time in this country where u didn't discuss religion or politics.. because it's an openly divisive issue And if you needed to talk about it, it should be with class and talking things out like men The mud slinging politics , because you don't agree with the other side is detrimental If I say I don't believe in abortion.. but a democrat tells me why they do... It should be left at that .. I won't fight it They have a right to their opinion .. that's what this country was founded on... Personal liberties
Orlando Buffalo Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, 716er said: Cancel them. Genius. Laughing at someone for being stupid is not cancelling them, but the fact you are confused explains why you think people keep "cancelling" you. 1 1
716er Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Yeah this is America There was a time in this country where u didn't discuss religion or politics.. because it's an openly divisive issue And if you needed to talk about it, it should be with class and talking things out like men The mud slinging politics , because you don't agree with the other side is detrimental If I say I don't believe in abortion.. but a democrat tells me why they do... It should be left at that .. I won't fight it They have a right to their opinion .. that's what this country was founded on... Personal liberties I see you enjoy sticking up for those who voice their opinion. The Macy Gray thread is calling your name.
Buffalo716 Posted June 21, 2021 Author Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, 716er said: I see you enjoy sticking up for those who voice their opinion. The Macy Gray thread is calling your name. I absolutely would stick up for anybody who is genuine with their opinion Whether I believe it or not
716er Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: I absolutely would stick up for anybody who is genuine with their opinion Whether I believe it or not Not I. Lots of genuine nuts out there. 1
Buffalo716 Posted June 21, 2021 Author Posted June 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, 716er said: Not I. Lots of genuine nuts out there. Idk if you come from a military family but I do And when you do , you learn to respect other people's opinions... Because many great men and woman gave the ultimate sacrifice so people can spout their dumb opinions Never forget.. men and woman are dying for our rights and they have been since 1776 They fight so we can have opinions
716er Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Idk if you come from a military family but I do And when you do , you learn to respect other people's opinions... Because many great men and woman gave the ultimate sacrifice so people can spout their dumb opinions Never forget.. men and woman are dying for our rights and they have been since 1776 They fight so we can have opinions To me, morality is focused more on acts and I refuse to respect opinions of those who act against my moral code. For example, I would never respect the opinion of a pedophile because I am morally opposed to his or her lifestyle. You’re free to respect their opinion, though. I won’t cancel you for it but I’ll think it’s ***** stupid.
Buffalo716 Posted June 21, 2021 Author Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, 716er said: To me, morality is focused more on acts and I refuse to respect opinions of those who act against my moral code. For example, I would never respect the opinion of a pedophile because I am morally opposed to his or her lifestyle. You’re free to respect their opinion, though. I won’t cancel you for it but I’ll think it’s ***** stupid. Dude your going out of left field bringing up respecting pedophiles opinions .. This is about politics.. and yes I wouldn't judge somebody based on their political leanings I would never even ask a pedophile their opinion because he's a mentally ill deviant .. This is about the left and right.. and their political opinions Not about legitimate criminals .. because their opinions don't actually matter... Nobody cares what a rapist or pedophile thinks Edited June 21, 2021 by Buffalo716
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Dude your going out of left field bringing up respecting pedophiles opinions .. This is about politics.. and yes I wouldn't judge somebody based on their political leanings I would never even ask a pedophile their opinion because he's a mentally ill deviant .. This is about the left and right.. and their political opinions Not about legitimate criminals .. because their opinions don't actually matter... Nobody cares what a rapist or pedophile thinks Ironically…. in context with your post above and your OP…. I looked it up because I knew I stumbled across it somewhere that a certain segment of woke just consider pedo another sexual orientation. That colorful NAMBLA logo is of an organization that openly advocates pedophilia. That’s some twisted stuff 1
JaCrispy Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, 716er said: What would you do with the Dems? Do you have a final solution? You have to tell them that while they think they are doing what is right (by censoring, cancelling, and being racist in the name of anti-racism), they are actually digging their own future graves without even realizing it... They think they are on the right side of history, but what they don’t realize is that that future, they are hoping to help bring about, actually doesn’t include them...it is just using them as pawns until the system gets enough power that it can spit them out too... Ever heard the saying “The Left always eat their own?” Well it’s true...After a while, it just turns into a circular firing squad...Just look at what the transgender ideology is doing to feminism...Just look at how the far Left supports oppressive Muslim nations that push gays off of rooftops...You think if the radical Left ultimately wins that those groups won’t be going to war with each other? But they shouldn’t take my word for it...just listen to the countless voices that fled oppressive, authoritarian, socialist regimes, to come here...those people are now saying they are seeing the same early signs that ultimately destroyed their home countries, and killed millions...the utopia is a lie... Edited June 21, 2021 by JaCrispy 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted June 21, 2021 Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Yes, you read that right.. the founding fathers were staunchly liberal Freedom of speech , press , assembly, religion, capitalism The right to bear arms All exclusively liberal ideologies... You will never find a fascist regime that gives you the rights to any of those Yet why do modern liberals oppose these more than anything? Cancel culture en masse... If you say or do anything that offends them they're coming for you .. socialism on the rise in democratic party Liberalism was founded on the principle of individual freedoms.. not just individual freedoms for liberals, but for everybody But if you don't agree with the left, they call you racist, bigot, homophobe, fascist and they will try to cancel you Looking back in a greater context, it's very easy to see that the liberal ideologies that our great country was founded on.. are being upheld by conservative people in this country Freedom of speech, press, assembly, religion, right to bear arms, states rights , capitalism Are all forefront to members of the conservative party... Yet people who call themselves liberal, are tying to censor speech, and press.. have gone after freedom of assembly.. and the right to bear arms And it's the conservatives who are upholding American traditions and values Traditional liberal of the 60's questioned and criticized the government and distrusted "the establishment". Today the "liberals" of the 21st century are the establishment and would like nothing more than to outlaw all criticism and opposition to "their" government. The oppressed have become the oppressor. 1
BullBuchanan Posted June 22, 2021 Posted June 22, 2021 On 6/21/2021 at 2:20 PM, Buffalo716 said: Yes, you read that right.. the founding fathers were staunchly liberal Freedom of speech , press , assembly, religion, capitalism The right to bear arms All exclusively liberal ideologies... You will never find a fascist regime that gives you the rights to any of those Yet why do modern liberals oppose these more than anything? Cancel culture en masse... If you say or do anything that offends them they're coming for you .. socialism on the rise in democratic party Liberalism was founded on the principle of individual freedoms.. not just individual freedoms for liberals, but for everybody But if you don't agree with the left, they call you racist, bigot, homophobe, fascist and they will try to cancel you It seems to me that you have "The left" confused with "Liberals" and liberals confused with "conservatives" here. The actual left has nothing to do with liberals or Democrats and the things you seem to be crying about on the left has been the republican platform for decades. "Conservatives" want to tell you: What medical procedures you're allowed to have What bathroom you're allowed to use Who you can marry What you're allowed to eat/smoke/drink and when what you can teach in schools and what you cant What you're allowed to protest and how That the government can kill you for any reason at any time And that's before we even get into the whole situation about how they forcibly allow other people to infringe on your rights to safety and security. Liberals are mostly just conservatives when it comes to their big business cronyism, but on the social side they prefer to make empty gestures which ends up being better than the conservative goal of making life as horrible as possible for anyone besides old rich white christian men.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted June 23, 2021 Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: It seems to me that you have "The left" confused with "Liberals" and liberals confused with "conservatives" here. The actual left has nothing to do with liberals or Democrats and the things you seem to be crying about on the left has been the republican platform for decades. "Conservatives" want to tell you: What medical procedures you're allowed to have What bathroom you're allowed to use Who you can marry What you're allowed to eat/smoke/drink and when what you can teach in schools and what you cant What you're allowed to protest and how That the government can kill you for any reason at any time And that's before we even get into the whole situation about how they forcibly allow other people to infringe on your rights to safety and security. Liberals are mostly just conservatives when it comes to their big business cronyism, but on the social side they prefer to make empty gestures which ends up being better than the conservative goal of making life as horrible as possible for anyone besides old rich white christian men. Nothing makes my life more horrible than the government stealing a third of my income to research Asian hooker drinking habits impact on STDs, engineer respiratory viruses, pay millions of people not to get off of their couch and lob million dollar cruise middles easterner tents in the dessert. Edited June 23, 2021 by Over 29 years of fanhood 1
BullBuchanan Posted June 23, 2021 Posted June 23, 2021 When you live in a society, you get to share the cost of living in that society. It's part of the deal. Unless you make around 400k, close to 10% of that 30% is going directly to services that fund seniors (medicare and SS), so while you're technically paying for today's seniors you can really think of it as paying for your own future care. I agree with you on the lobbing missiles bit, and there is plenty of corruption and waste. Taxes are a necessity in a capitalist society though. If you're interested in doing away with that altogether, I'm listening.
BillStime Posted June 23, 2021 Posted June 23, 2021 On 6/21/2021 at 3:37 PM, Buffalo716 said: Yeah this is America There was a time in this country where u didn't discuss religion or politics.. because it's an openly divisive issue And if you needed to talk about it, it should be with class and talking things out like men The mud slinging politics , because you don't agree with the other side is detrimental If I say I don't believe in abortion.. but a democrat tells me why they do... It should be left at that .. I won't fight it They have a right to their opinion .. that's what this country was founded on... Personal liberties I wonder what changed?
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