BigDingus Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 Well, I've met a lot of people in Austin that think the city deserves an NFL team, and with it being the state capital where a ton of the money runs through (and the politicians scheming about...) I can see them eventually getting a team. The Austin metro area has around 2.1 million people & was named the fastest growing metroplex in the US this year (plus it's only a little over an hour from San Antonio, another city that wanted a team before), so it was only a matter of time before they started campaigning for a franchise. But I really never thought the Bills would ever be up for consideration... That's going to be annoying, especially once the people there catch wind & start getting their hopes up. I already had 2 friends text me about it, which is why I'm here in the first place. Really hope the Pegulas don't seriously consider this. Hoping it's just the firm representing the ownership throwing it out there for negotiation purposes. 2
Process Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 Don't care if it's 100% business/negotiation tactics, the Pegulas deserve all the F Us coming their way for this. 4 2 1
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Well, I've met a lot of people in Austin that think the city deserves an NFL team, and with it being the state capital where a ton of the money runs through (and the politicians scheming about...) I can see them eventually getting a team. The Austin metro area has around 2.1 million people & was named the fastest growing metroplex in the US this year (plus it's only a little over an hour from San Antonio, another city that wanted a team before), so it was only a matter of time before they started campaigning for a franchise. But I really never thought the Bills would ever be up for consideration... That's going to be annoying, especially once the people there catch wind & start getting their hopes up. I already had 2 friends text me about it, which is why I'm here in the first place. Really hope the Pegulas don't seriously consider this. Hoping it's just the firm representing the ownership throwing it out there for negotiation purposes. Why would Jerry Jones want another team in Texas... Chewing into his market share?
RunninRebel37 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) As a native Las Vegan - who had zero say in the County Commissioners stadium approval - you all should vehemently oppose a publicly funded stadium. The Pegulas and the NFL should be ashamed of themselves trying to leverage emotions and a successful season into a publicly funded stadium deal. A billionaire owner - let alone the league collectively - shouldn't be asking hard working tax payers to front that bill. It’s disgusting and I apologize for our city/county for setting this standard. Edited August 2, 2021 by RunninRebel37 1 2 2 2
Beast Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) Wasn’t there some kind of poison pill Ralph insisted on that a future owner (Pegula’s) would find it very costly to move the team? Disregard. That period just ended. https://www.si.com/nfl/2014/03/26/buffalo-bills-future-ralph-wilson-roger-goodell A Bills move wouldn’t surprise me. Not when it comes to Kim Pegula. Edited August 2, 2021 by Beast
Trogdor Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 3 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: I'd say it's much more likely this is being pushed by Jerruh's company than the Pegula's themselves who have made statements saying a massively expensive stadium likely isn't the 'right' away to go... My hunch is they'll let Jerruh shoot his shot and when the state tells him to go pound sand, they'll end up with something more realistic for the region. Everything aside, we know that Jerruh and his pal owners who need the revenue from their teams want to push small market teams to move. I don't think it happens here, but the likelihood is that in 20 years barring a real acceleration of growth in the region that the Bills will play outside of Western New York. I doubt that Jerry has anything to do with this. He also probably wouldn't support another team in his market. He didn't even like the idea of Vegas. With revenue sharing they can play anywhere to empty stadiums and still get wealthier. 23 minutes ago, Process said: Don't care if it's 100% business/negotiation tactics, the Pegulas deserve all the F Us coming their way for this. Kim has made so many comments in the past that line up with this. I still don't understand people that think they are some well intentioned family that is tied to Western NY when they don't even live here. 1 1
rayray808 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 move the Bills to Hawaii... anyone down for that?
Augie Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Trogdor said: I doubt that Jerry has anything to do with this. He also probably wouldn't support another team in his market. He didn't even like the idea of Vegas. With revenue sharing they can play anywhere to empty stadiums and still get wealthier. With all due respect, revenue sharing means the more revenue, the more they ALL make. Jerry is at or near the top of the revenue chart. He’s subsidizing smaller market teams, and he’d like them to step up and close that gap. Jerry has his nose in everything related to the NFL, and he wants the Bills to generate more cash. Despite all that, I think this is just an opening salvo in a PR and negotiation war and we will still have a team in WNY after much angst by all who follow closely. 6 minutes ago, rayray808 said: move the Bills to Hawaii... anyone down for that? I’d check out a game, for sure! Hating them for every minute I was there! 1
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 2 hours ago, SCBills said: Honestly, we should just create a charity account to fund the stadium…. We do it for everything else. We obviously won’t raise 1.5 billion, but if there was ever a way to demonstrate to PGSE/NYS that y’all better get this done… Then just donate it to charity when it inevitably doesn’t go towards the stadium. I agree with this. Taxpayers should not be on the hook for a new stadium. To a point anyway. Maybe 10% or something small as I would think there are direct positive economic benefits to the entire Buffalo area. But why not open up funding options for us fans? I'll throw in a couple hundred bucks for an overpriced piece of memorabilia from the Ralph or the players. Like many Bills fans I don't even live in Buffalo. Never have. But I would gladly chip in for a new stadium. Ultimately though the league and the owners should commit the majority of the funding. That would actually be something congress should address. Write a law that prevents a sports league/team from paying less than 75% or 80% of the cost of a new stadium or something. 1 minute ago, Augie said: I’d check out a game, for sure! Hating them for every minute I was there! And Josh Allen would dominate in that Hawaii 84 degree weather.
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Bad Things said: This is so wrong. Yeah, I get reasoning that this is only the first step of a negotiation process. But, why? Such an extreme stance does not have to be the first step. I find it insulting and disingenuous to Bills fans and all of the taxpayers that would have to foot the bill. I don't even live there and it's pissing me off. Hey Terry! F - you! Good point. Really makes the Pegula's look like scum going out the gate with 100% taxpayer funding. Seriously, they couldn't start at 75%? Do these dopes actually expect to to get 75% and that's why they started at 100%? 2
CheshireCT Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, SCBills said: Meh… I thought it was kind of a dump. Maybe it was cool years ago… In terms of football, It’s Atlanta on steroids with transplants, complete with a college team that owns the city (UGA/UT) I try to take off my homer glasses when discussing this stuff, but I truly think this point has merit. Bills Mafia is the most iconic fan base in the NFL right now. I really don’t think we have homer glasses! Sports is entertainment, and the small markets bring a lot to the table when it comes to that. And if the broadcasting and advertising brings all the cash, why should the league really care about ticket revenues? Sounds like foolish greed to me. Edited August 2, 2021 by CheshireCT
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) Edited August 2, 2021 by Dablitzkrieg 2
foreboding Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) Two thoughts. 1. I hope the Pegula's remain the Buffalo heroes we have all thought them to be. 2. If item 1 above is not true, then I don't care what it costs in tax dollars, the state better pay--if needed. Austin Bills. Please. That's dumb. Edited August 2, 2021 by foreboding 1 1
SCBills Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: ….for now PFT is trashhhhhh 2
Augie Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, CheshireCT said: Sports is entertainment, and the small markets bring a lot to the table when it comes to that. And if the broadcasting and advertising brings all the cash, why should the league really care about ticket revenues? Sounds like foolish greed to me. The bold is where you went wrong. MUCH of the cash? Sure. Bigger markets bring bigger revenues. Broadcasting and advertising are just a couple streams of revenue. The owners care about EVERY stream of revenue including concessions, parking, merchandise sales, etc. Better stadiums also generate more money. They care about the ENTIRE package. They would be stupid not to care. I certainly would. If you have a good job that pays well, would you be OK with your wife working for free? I doubt it. You would want that money too. Edited August 2, 2021 by Augie
BuffaloBills1998 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 For some reason it won’t let me post the tweet. But PSE just made an announcement they’re not moving the team out of Buffalo and that the Bills are staying in western NY. Hope this calms everyone down 10 minutes ago, SCBills said: ….for now PFT is trashhhhhh You guys realize PFT has had an agenda on the Bills for quite sometime now. You honestly can’t trust any news source anymore. People just put out bull#### for Clicks and unfortunately some fans are gullible enough to take the bait. Just like when Ertz to Buffalo trade was a done deal lol, how did that workout? 1 1
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 43 minutes ago, Trogdor said: I doubt that Jerry has anything to do with this. He also probably wouldn't support another team in his market. He didn't even like the idea of Vegas. With revenue sharing they can play anywhere to empty stadiums and still get wealthier. Kim has made so many comments in the past that line up with this. I still don't understand people that think they are some well intentioned family that is tied to Western NY when they don't even live here. Ralph lived in Michigan and Florida... 1
BigDingus Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Why would Jerry Jones want another team in Texas... Chewing into his market share? He won't, but they hired the companies he owns to build a new stadium, not relocate. If they can't come to an agreement to build a new stadium, relocation isn't controlled by Jerry Jones. He also doesn't control the entire NFL, despite what he may think. He has influence, but when the policy makers in Austin get a choice to pursue an NFL team, pretty sure that'll supersede anything Jones' influence. Texas is the 2nd largest state in the country. It can easily support more than 2 teams, Jones can cry about it. But again, I don't think the Bills will be that team. At least I hope not.
chongli Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: For some reason it won’t let me post the tweet. But PSE just made an announcement they’re not moving the team out of Buffalo and that the Bills are staying in western NY. Hope this calms everyone down Is there a link? I just checked PSE twitter, and there is no such announcement: https://twitter.com/PegulaSE/with_replies?lang=en 1
BuffaloBills1998 Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, chongli said: Is there a link? I just checked PSE twitter, and there is no such announcement: https://twitter.com/PegulaSE/with_replies?lang=en Read the first one please
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