SCBills Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Arkady Renko said: Really takes some of the joy away from the upcoming season. This is certainly not what anyone wants to be reading right now, but this is just how these negotiations work. I don’t believe anyone truly thinks the Bills are leaving Buffalo.. just a matter of how ugly it gets before the two sides inevitably come together. Edited August 1, 2021 by SCBills 1
That's No Moon Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 For comparison, Yankee Stadium cost 1.3 billion. Taxpayers paid 450 million.
Buffalo716 Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 1 minute ago, major said: That's literally straight BS They aren't relocating and they're not talking about it
red hots Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) Unfortunately you cannot dismiss these things and have to take them seriously, despite all the different reports coming out from various outlets. St. Louis was about to build its second NFL stadium in 20 years and the team still left. San Antonio/Austin as much as Jerry Jones doesn't want a team there is a growing region and San Antonio has aggressively courted teams before. If they are genuine about wanting 1.5b in public money that is outrageously unreasonable. Edited August 1, 2021 by red hots 1 1
DCOrange Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 3 hours ago, aristocrat said: Miami paid for their stadium themselves The city spent almost $500 mil on their baseball stadium though
PromoTheRobot Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, red hots said: Unfortunately you cannot dismiss these things and have to take them seriously, despite all the different reports coming out from various outlets. St. Louis was about to build its second NFL stadium in 20 years and the team still left. San Antonio/Austin as much as Jerry Jones doesn't want a team there is a growing region and San Antonio has aggressively courted teams before. If they are genuine about wanting 1.5b in public money that is outrageously unreasonable. Don't forget the Pegulas hired Jerry Jones' firm to handle stadium negotiations. Austin? I believe Toronto before there.
Mango Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 29 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: If getting $1.5B in tax payer dollars after a pandemic where people lost their entire livelihoods, family, friends, children, etc. is important enough to the Pegulas to pick up an take the Bills out of Buffalo. They’re welcome to leave. I understand this is the start of a negotiation. But I can’t get behind billionaires asking for billions in a billion dollar industry so that they can keep making billions, while still in the thwarts of a pandemic. Meanwhile some are still struggling to get by and ultimately he’s asking for their tax dollars to keep money in his pocket. 6 2 1 2 1
SCBills Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mango said: If getting $1.5B in tax payer dollars after a pandemic where people lost their entire livelihoods, family, friends, children, etc. is important enough to the Pegulas to pick up an take the Bills out of Buffalo. They’re welcome to leave. I understand this is the start of a negotiation. But I can’t get behind billionaires asking for billions in a billion dollar industry so that they can keep making billions, while still in the thwarts of a pandemic. Meanwhile some are still struggling to get by and ultimately he’s asking for their tax dollars to keep money in his pocket. This entire pandemic has resulted in a massive shift of money/real estate/equity from the middle class to the billionaire class… I can’t get too worked up about this. At least in this scenario, we get a new football stadium. Edited August 1, 2021 by SCBills 1
Malazan Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said: Oh, well, now they're just making stuff up. I live in Austin and the... desire for an NFL team is low. The massive stadium that would be required would need to go somewhere outside the city and the traffic problems down here are already bad and difficult to solve. There's only a light commuter rail that is next to useless for public transportation and the parking for it wouldn't support extending it out to some fictional stadium (not to mention they worked around a lot of eminent domain issues so the route sucks and has frequent stops for road traffic). That's before you get into the culture, that there are many other venues (so revenue from other events would probably be low) and that the Longhorns dominate the city... yeah. If they said San Antonio, it might be believable. In fact, these 'leaks' are so laughably without context that I would not be surprised if they are straight from Jerry Jones. Edited August 1, 2021 by jeremy2020 3
RyanC883 Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 i still don’t get the need for a new stadium in OP that does not have a dome. why the need??!? 1
red hots Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 Just now, jeremy2020 said: Oh, well, now they're just making stuff up. I live in Austin and the... desire for an NFL team is low. The massive stadium that would be required would need to go somewhere outside the city and the traffic problems down here are already bad and difficult to solve. There's only a light commuter rail that is next to useless for public transportation and the parking for it wouldn't support extending it out to some fictional stadium (not to mention they worked around a lot of eminent domain issues so the route sucks and has frequent stops for road traffic). That's before you get into the culture, that there are many other venues (so revenue from other events would probably be low) and that the Longhorns dominate the city... yeah. If they said San Antonio, it might be believable. You'll know better than me, but Austin comes across as a new money transient place full of people from other cities already rooting for other teams. And the Longhorns are so entrenched as well. I'm guessing theres a ton of Cowboys fans there historically if you're asking locals to pick an NFL team. Texans I have no inkling about as they're a younger and less successful team. Seems like a mini LA demographically to me and we know how the Chargers move especially to a place that doesn't want them has worked out. 1 1
SCBills Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: i still don’t get the need for a new stadium in OP that does not have a dome. why the need??!? Pressure from the NFL.
RyanC883 Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: good question. Not sure. several owners would feel “betrayed” I figure. The Mara’s being one of them. Mara was the owner who hinted that Pegula gave the other owners assurances that the stadium issue would be address. mara made it sound it was this assurance that led the owners to give pegula the team and not explore other bids. why do others want a new stadium? how does a new stadium, on it’s own, increase revenue? Just now, SCBills said: Pressure from the NFL. thanks, I get that, I don’t get the pressure part. more boxes? just put more in Ralph?’
Saxum Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, SCBills said: This entire pandemic has resulted in accelerating a massive shift of money/real estate/equity from the middle class to the billionaire class… I can’t get too worked up about this. At least in this scenario, we get a new football stadium. updated. 2
Arkady Renko Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 Surprised Bills PR hasn’t been all over a response yet. 1
BuffaloBills1998 Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) Nobody should be worried about this. It’s a tactic threat and nothing more. Highly doubt Pegula would go back on his word about Keeping the team in Buffalo. That’s one of the main reasons he bought the damn franchise, to keep it out of Bon Jovi’s and the Toronto backers hands. He’s not moving the Bills because in order to do that he would have to give up his dream in the Sabre’s and that’s not happening. It’s gonna come down to being 50/50. I’ll put money on this that the Bills stay in Buffalo Edited August 1, 2021 by BuffaloBills1998 1 1
Just Joshin' Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, BillsMafi$ said: I do not want the Bills to move. If they do, the Austin/San Antonio I-35 corridor is personally a great option as I spend half the football season in Texas. There has been talk of a baseball stadium between the 2 cities but have not heard of a football stadium. 1
Mat68 Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 Gotta pay or someone will. Who knows what an agreeable number would look like at this point. It def will take some.
Solomon Grundy Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, major said: One of my favorite actors of all time 1
Big Turk Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: I do not want the Bills to move. If they do, the Austin/San Antonio I-35 corridor is personally a great option as I spend half the football season in Texas. There has been talk of a baseball stadium between the 2 cities but have not heard of a football stadium. They aren't moving.
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