Process Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 I can not, for the life of me, wrap my head around an open air, 60,000 capacity stadium in Orchard Park NY costing $1.4B. Makes absolutely zero sense. 1 1
MAJBobby Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, Virgil said: I don't like there being 12k less fans. Losing that noise sounds like a bad idea. They can design in Noise that isnt that hard to accomplish anymore
Greg S Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 60,000 is low for Bills fans. I would have guessed around 70,000 like they have now. 1
May Day 10 Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 IMO 65K-72K is probably the sweet spot. 60K seems pretty small. The good news is, maybe it can be a fairly intimate venue for the 60K fans in attendance. It also means the tickets will be more exclusive, less supply = much more expensive 1 2
MAJBobby Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, Process said: I can not, for the life of me, wrap my head around an open air, 60,000 capacity stadium in Orchard Park NY costing $1.4B. Makes absolutely zero sense. When you add in Design... Think MIA stadium, if you are going to protect the 60,000 from the elements, while it is open air it is going to look alot like MIA and Dallas
Virgil Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, Virgil said: I don't like there being 12k less fans. Losing that noise sounds like a bad idea. I'm also afraid of how much ticket prices will rise. 1
MAJBobby Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, May Day 10 said: IMO 65K-72K is probably the sweet spot. 60K seems pretty small. The good news is, maybe it can be a fairly intimate venue for the 60K fans in attendance. It also means the tickets will be more exclusive, less supply = much more expensive Yep easiest way to raise prices, lower supply
SoCal Deek Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: When you add in Design... Think MIA stadium, if you are going to protect the 60,000 from the elements, while it is open air it is going to look alot like MIA and Dallas Think Seattle
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, May Day 10 said: IMO 65K-72K is probably the sweet spot. 60K seems pretty small. The good news is, maybe it can be a fairly intimate venue for the 60K fans in attendance. It also means the tickets will be more exclusive, less supply = much more expensive Would be nice to go to a game and just sit in a nice soft seat away from elements and loud nosies and just enjoy. And less people! Less drunks…less nonsense…less traffic! 😍😍😍 1
Process Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, MAJBobby said: When you add in Design... Think MIA stadium, if you are going to protect the 60,000 from the elements, while it is open air it is going to look alot like MIA and Dallas State of the art, glass domed stadium with higher capacity in the middle of downtown Minneapolis cost $1.1B just a few years ago. Again it makes absolutely no sense. 1
MAJBobby Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, Process said: State of the art, glass domed stadium with higher capacity in the middle of downtown Minneapolis cost $1.1B just a few years ago. Again it makes absolutely no sense. And a few years later that grew up to 1.9B. 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: Think Seattle Yep. It will cover all fans, will have noise designed in and will have all new game day experience perks IMO. Probably alot of tech as well.
BuffaloBills1998 Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 13 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: 60,000 Seat Stadium per AP exclusive Some Highlights: "The new venue would not include a roof, but it would be designed so that a majority of the seats would be protected from the elements, the person said." "The team initially considered a larger stadium with a price-tag of $1.6 billion before making a decision to shrink the project, the person said." "As part of a PSE-funded study launched in 2018, the team conducted an extensive analysis focusing on three potential stadium sites in and around Buffalo before opting to propose building the facility on a team-controlled parking lot across the street from its current home." "The two other locations considered were on the University at Buffalo campus north of the city, and a downtown site on the land where the abandoned Perry Projects sit empty. The projected cost of a downtown stadium came to $1.9 billion, not including necessary infrastructure upgrades, the person said." I love this idea, plus the article did state that Hochoul is working hard in the negotiations and that she’s making sure the Bills stay here for a long time and that she’s a hardcore Bills fan. I think this deal gets approved. 1
UConn James Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, Process said: State of the art, glass domed stadium with higher capacity in the middle of downtown Minneapolis cost $1.1B just a few years ago. Again it makes absolutely no sense. You’re talking NY prices, union contracts 💰, and the ridiculous inflation just in the last few months. 1 1
MAJBobby Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 Also Looks like PSLs will be part of the financing. 1
Greg S Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: I love this idea, plus the article did state that Hochoul is working hard in the negotiations and that she’s making sure the Bills stay here for a long time and that she’s a hardcore Bills fan. I think this deal gets approved. It definitely helps that the most powerful person in NY is on the Bills side. It reminds me of when the Isles new owners got Cuomo on board with the new arena. He helped get the thru all the political BS to get shovels in the ground ASAP. This year the Isles start play at UBS arena in Belmont this fall. Lets hope Hochoul can do the same for the Bills. Edited August 31, 2021 by Greg S 1
Mango Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 The Bills have had a tough time selling out late season and or bad weather games even when they were good. We just forget because of the black out rules. 60k is probably a projection on historical capacity for the Ralph in inclement weather and what they anticipate ticket value being with lesser supply during the early parts of the season. I dislike it as a fan but probably a good business decision. 1
MAJBobby Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 Also thinking about the line protecting people from elements. COLD is an element - Could we see Heated Seats????
DrDawkinstein Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Also thinking about the line protecting people from elements. COLD is an element - Could we see Heated Seats???? Doubtful. The seats they had in the clubs broke down pretty quick and they went to overhead warmers. Would be a huge hassle and cost to maintain. But maybe that is where the $1.4B for an open air stadium comes from. Edited August 31, 2021 by DrDawkinstein
MAJBobby Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 I also do think the League will try and see if they could get the Bills to go up to about 65,000 that is the AVG of the league. So that would make about Sense. And Bills leverage for a SB, if you want more seating 1 1
UConn James Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 I have no problem with them reducing the seating to 60K. Smaller stadium footprint = smaller cost. The NFL has / will become more of a TV league.
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