Mayor of Chicago from the top rope on the consideration of moving the Bears stadium to the suburbs

[Heitz]

Just what we need down the road, 32 teams in 16 cities...  🤣

 

 

[maddenboy]

4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Florio is surmising that Chicago could get a second team and put them in soldier field 

 

 

yeah, but who would want to buy or move a team.  Into the relative dump that is soldier field?

 

This news about the bears does not mean the bears would stay at soldier field and some new team would come to their town and build a brand new stadium.

 

Also, kinda like the San Diego Charges of Los Angeles, it would be hard to convince fans to support a 2nd team. 

[Arkady Renko]

32 minutes ago, maddenboy said:

yeah, but who would want to buy or move a team.  Into the relative dump that is soldier field?

 

This news about the bears does not mean the bears would stay at soldier field and some new team would come to their town and build a brand new stadium.

 

Also, kinda like the San Diego Charges of Los Angeles, it would be hard to convince fans to support a 2nd team. 

 

"NFL Sources" love creating new potential relocation spots.  

[May Day 10]

The return of the Chicago Cardinals would be excellent

[YoloinOhio]

5 minutes ago, Arkady Renko said:

 

"NFL Sources" love creating new potential relocation spots.  

Especially florio 

[LeGOATski]

I feel like the league is going to be adding two new expansion teams soon, anyway...

[dollars 2 donuts]

15 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

The return of the Chicago Cardinals would be excellent

 

 

I always lament how old I am, right or wrong talking about things I think I know.

 

Well, you're never too old to be surprised, or rather too young to not know what you thought was true.

 

I knew the Cards were in Chicago, first.  However, I had no idea that they spent more time in Chicago (1920 - 1959) than they did in St. Louis (1960 - 1987).  I thought they were just in Chi-Town for a few years before making there "long term" home in St. Louis.

 

Hmm...the more you know, I guess.

 

 

EDIT:  On a more sour note if the Bills left Buffalo after 64 years (2023) it would not be the longest tenure before moving in pro sports.  That would still belong to the Brooklyn Dodgers at 73 years (1884 - 1957).

 

Too much information?

Edited September 29, 2021 by dollars 2 donuts

[Beast]

Why would the Bears allow a second team? 

[corta765]

13 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

I feel like the league is going to be adding two new expansion teams soon, anyway...

 

The NFL really would need to add more like four more teams to balance it better so the schedule doesn't implode.

I have thought for a while the NFL would move back to two divisions a conference and that way they could add two teams per conference.

 

My guess:

Austin (Growing insanely fast and could def support it just a matter if owners in HOU/DAL would let it happen) NFC East

London (NFL really wants a team there) AFC East

St Louis (if you haven't been paying attention to the lawsuit it actually may be cheaper for St Louis to get a new team that the NFL payout, it is wild) AFC West

Mexico City (NFL would gain a second international team that fits time zone better) NFC West 

[nucci]

Logistics would be difficult for London and guessing players wouldn't want to live that far from home

[The 9 Isles]

Bears buy property in Arlington Heights

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/09/29/bears-announce-purchase-of-property-in-arlington-heights/

Edited September 29, 2021 by The 9 Isles

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Florio is surmising that Chicago could get a second team and put them in soldier field 

 

 

Rams.  They've been everywhere else. 😁

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said:

Except the Mayor of a City anywhere in America has considerably less power than a football team owner.   Like it or not the billionaire usually comes out on top of the situation.   So the Mayor can say all they want, but mainly its just noise.

That is only because most mayors and local politicians have no backbone, if these billionaires team owners were told to, in effect, go piss up a rope, and spend your own money if you want a new stadium, they would be singing a different tune, but local municipalities by and large have no backbone when it comes to confronting corporations.
 

The only way a local politician should advocate for public funds is if that municipality receives stock in the team, yes partial ownership, if Polancranz or who ever it is, had a pair that’s what he would insist on. Oh, and screw NFL league policy of no more local ownership, play hardball, that is what ALL municipalities should be doing.   If they did they would ALL have the upper hand. 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

3 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

That is only because most mayors and local politicians have no backbone, if these billionaires team owners were told to, in effect, go piss up a rope, and spend your own money if you want a new stadium, they would be singing a different tune, but local municipalities by and large have no backbone when it comes to confronting corporations.
 

The only way a local politician should advocate for public funds is if that municipality receives stock in the team, yes partial ownership, if Polancranz or who ever it is, had a pair that’s what he would insist on. Oh, and screw NFL league policy of no more local ownership, play hardball, that is what ALL municipalities should be doing.   If they did they would ALL have the upper hand. 

I read this and got "blah blah blah ALL municipalities should be doing."

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SOCIALIST!!!

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😁 I tend to agree, but multimillionaires gotta eat too, ya' know.

[thenorthremembers]

5 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

That is only because most mayors and local politicians have no backbone, if these billionaires team owners were told to, in effect, go piss up a rope, and spend your own money if you want a new stadium, they would be singing a different tune, but local municipalities by and large have no backbone when it comes to confronting corporations.
 

The only way a local politician should advocate for public funds is if that municipality receives stock in the team, yes partial ownership, if Polancranz or who ever it is, had a pair that’s what he would insist on. Oh, and screw NFL league policy of no more local ownership, play hardball, that is what ALL municipalities should be doing.   If they did they would ALL have the upper hand. 

They don't tell them to piss on a rope because long term having a multi billion dollar business in your city is worth more than the tax payer investment in funding part of the stadium.    Tax breaks, and federal funding is part of the game of having successful business in your city.  

[Don Otreply]

2 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

They don't tell them to piss on a rope because long term having a multi billion dollar business in your city is worth more than the tax payer investment in funding part of the stadium.    Tax breaks, and federal funding is part of the game of having successful business in your city.  

Only if it is a good business deal for the municipalities / taxpayers, which it has yet to shown to be a good deal for the locality, anywhere.  One can spin it in many ways, but the local municipalities are hog tied with the current way of doing business with the NFL, and that can’t be argued otherwise. 

[Don Otreply]

12 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

I read this and got "blah blah blah ALL municipalities should be doing."

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SOCIALIST!!!

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😁 I tend to agree, but multimillionaires gotta eat too, ya' know.

Just advocating for a win win, presently it is never a win win for municipalities when dealing with the NFL. 
 

Oh, by the way, every time an American flushes their toilet, sends their child to school, calls the police or fire department, drives on a road, etc etc, they take part in the American style of socialism, like it or not, it is so. 

[Arkady Renko]

22 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

That is only because most mayors and local politicians have no backbone, if these billionaires team owners were told to, in effect, go piss up a rope, and spend your own money if you want a new stadium, they would be singing a different tune, but local municipalities by and large have no backbone when it comes to confronting corporations.
 

The only way a local politician should advocate for public funds is if that municipality receives stock in the team, yes partial ownership, if Polancranz or who ever it is, had a pair that’s what he would insist on. Oh, and screw NFL league policy of no more local ownership, play hardball, that is what ALL municipalities should be doing.   If they did they would ALL have the upper hand. 

 

I also wish that no state or municipality gave funding for these new stadiums.  But if all of that was banned, I don't know that the end result is the Bills staying in Buffalo.  LA got two teams with private-funded stadiums.  I expect there would be significant movement to bigger markets.

 

[Hsker4life]

Mayor from the top rope, but the Bears rolled out of the way before she could connect. Now they’re about to pin her for the 3 count.
 

 

[Don Otreply]

4 minutes ago, Arkady Renko said:

 

I also wish that no state or municipality gave funding for these new stadiums.  But if all of that was banned, I don't know that the end result is the Bills staying in Buffalo.  LA got two teams with private-funded stadiums.  I expect there would be significant movement to bigger markets.

 

I would like to see a more equitable business arrangement between municipalities and the NFL, if the corporation wants public money they should give up stock in their business for it in the value of the public financial commitment. That way the municipalities can have control over their financial commitment.