SoCal Deek Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, BillStime said: OK…I’m calling it! Fake news. This guy doesn’t have a single Ukrainian flag in his Twitter banner. 1
BillStime Posted July 14, 2022 Author Posted July 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Doc said: Couldn't be all the illegals...
ChiGoose Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Doc said: Couldn't be all the illegals... Nice telling on yourself with that comment, but if you were really interested, here are some stats: Quote Here are the 10 states with the highest maternal mortality: Louisiana (58.1 per 100k) Georgia (48.4 per 100k) Indiana (43.6 per 100k) New Jersey (38.1 per 100k) Arkansas (37.5 per 100k) Alabama (36.4 per 100k) Missouri (34.6 per 100k) Texas (34.5 per 100k) South Carolina (27.9 per 100k) Arizona (27.3 per 100k) The states with the lowest maternal mortality rate are: California (4.0 per 100k) Massachusetts (8.4 per 100k) Nevada (8.4 per 100k) Connecticut (10.5 per 100k) Colorado (11.5 per 100k) The United States as a whole has a fairly high maternal mortality rate, tied for 57th and below such countries as Russia, Iran, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, and Belarus.
Doc Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 46 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Nice telling on yourself with that comment, but if you were really interested, here are some stats: The states with the lowest maternal mortality rate are: California (4.0 per 100k) Massachusetts (8.4 per 100k) Nevada (8.4 per 100k) Connecticut (10.5 per 100k) Colorado (11.5 per 100k) The United States as a whole has a fairly high maternal mortality rate, tied for 57th and below such countries as Russia, Iran, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, and Belarus. Telling what on myself? That people from a 3rd world country like Mexico and who are illegal and don't seek healthcare, are sicker? Got me! And the US counts infant mortality different than the rest of the world. If we reported them like everyone else, we'd be one of the best. 1
ChiGoose Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Doc said: And the US counts infant mortality different than the rest of the world. If we reported them like everyone else, we'd be one of the best. (citation needed) 1
DrW Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Doc said: And the US counts infant mortality different than the rest of the world. If we reported them like everyone else, we'd be one of the best. That is not true. Different from you, I actually have a study that backs my point of view. https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w20525/w20525.pdf Summary The US has higher infant mortality than peer countries. In this paper, we combine micro-data from the US with similar data from four European countries to investigate this US infant mortality disadvantage. The US disadvantage persists after adjusting for potential differential reporting of births near the threshold of viability. While the importance of birth weight varies across comparison countries, relative to all comparison countries the US has similar neonatal (<1 month) mortality but higher postneonatal (1-12 months) mortality. We document similar patterns across Census divisions within the US. The postneonatal mortality disadvantage is driven by poor birth outcomes among lower socioeconomic status individuals. In their discussion, the authors specifically note, "infants born to white, college-educated, married women in the U.S. have mortality rates that are essentially indistinguishable from a similar advantaged demographic in Austria and Finland." These are the people well-covered by health insurance, both in Europe and in the US. Edited July 15, 2022 by DrW
Doc Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 2 hours ago, DrW said: That is not true. Different from you, I actually have a study that backs my point of view. https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w20525/w20525.pdf Summary The US has higher infant mortality than peer countries. In this paper, we combine micro-data from the US with similar data from four European countries to investigate this US infant mortality disadvantage. The US disadvantage persists after adjusting for potential differential reporting of births near the threshold of viability. While the importance of birth weight varies across comparison countries, relative to all comparison countries the US has similar neonatal (<1 month) mortality but higher postneonatal (1-12 months) mortality. We document similar patterns across Census divisions within the US. The postneonatal mortality disadvantage is driven by poor birth outcomes among lower socioeconomic status individuals. In their discussion, the authors specifically note, "infants born to white, college-educated, married women in the U.S. have mortality rates that are essentially indistinguishable from a similar advantaged demographic in Austria and Finland." These are the people well-covered by health insurance, both in Europe and in the US. This is what I found: http://pediatricalliance.com/infant-mortality/ Quote When the “non-viable” live births are excluded, the infant mortality rate comes much closer to the rates of our European counterparts: 4.2 deaths per 1,000 live births (a 40% difference). This is good news. The question is: where and when are most infant deaths happening in this country? 1
DrW Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 11 hours ago, Doc said: This is what I found: http://pediatricalliance.com/infant-mortality/ Interesting. Both write-ups are actually based on the same data. My source was the original study, your source somebody else's interpretation of the study. The correction for reporting differences indeed brings the US "much closer to the rates of our European counterparts" (your source), but "US disadvantage persists" (original study). Your source concludes: "Unless the U.S. improves (and ultimately ensures) access for all — healthcare policy that American citizens still cannot agree upon — the discrepancy of infant mortality among nations is likely to continue to be glaring."
LeviF Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 Does the infant mortality rate in this study include death via abuse/neglect? 2
Doc Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, DrW said: Interesting. Both write-ups are actually based on the same data. My source was the original study, your source somebody else's interpretation of the study. The correction for reporting differences indeed brings the US "much closer to the rates of our European counterparts" (your source), but "US disadvantage persists" (original study). Your source concludes: "Unless the U.S. improves (and ultimately ensures) access for all — healthcare policy that American citizens still cannot agree upon — the discrepancy of infant mortality among nations is likely to continue to be glaring." The bottom line is we can and need to do better. That involves everyone, including the parent(s). 7 minutes ago, LeviF said: Does the infant mortality rate in this study include death via abuse/neglect? Yes. Edited July 15, 2022 by Doc
LeviF Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Yes. Then this needs to be looked at rather closely before any policy ideas can be spun from it. Same as the nonsense behind "black 'birth-givers' have a higher mortality than white ones." Edited July 15, 2022 by LeviF 1 1
Boatdrinks Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 4:12 PM, ChiGoose said: Nice telling on yourself with that comment, but if you were really interested, here are some stats: The states with the lowest maternal mortality rate are: California (4.0 per 100k) Massachusetts (8.4 per 100k) Nevada (8.4 per 100k) Connecticut (10.5 per 100k) Colorado (11.5 per 100k) The United States as a whole has a fairly high maternal mortality rate, tied for 57th and below such countries as Russia, Iran, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, and Belarus. I’d venture that the top 10 states also have a higher obesity rate than the lowest ones. Many of our health issues in America can be traced to our poor choices in diet, exercise, etc.
ALF Posted July 24, 2022 Posted July 24, 2022 The rising cost of energy and limited access to housing with A/C is creating a dangerous summer for low-income Texans Miranda says she pays about $350 a month for electricity when the city sees triple-digit temperatures. The three window air-conditioning units in her 789-square-feet apartment are only able to cool the rooms to about 80-85 degrees. "We have tenants that are choosing to not turn on the A/C so that they can still pay their rent and not be homeless. Or they're choosing take their medicine over having air conditioning and that should never be the case," Miranda added. https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/23/us/heat-wave-low-income-communities-reaj/index.html Texas does not have a state income tax to help pay for a better power grid and hurricane damage so not surprising.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted July 24, 2022 Posted July 24, 2022 On 7/18/2022 at 1:04 PM, Tiberius said: A bigoted, misandristic political ad suggesting a person defined by both race and gender is apparently responsible for all societal ills and may come to burn you out of your home and much, much worse….coming from residents of a deeply southern state. History repeats, and this ad has a very creepy, almost robotic Stepford Wives vibe to it. 1
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