Aussie Joe Posted June 15, 2021 Posted June 15, 2021 Having Pick 5 and Pick 3 the last two years and coming away with Tua is a good result for the Bills… 4
Bangarang Posted June 15, 2021 Posted June 15, 2021 From what I saw, they had a constant downpour at practice. It’s June though so this means absolutely nothing
T master Posted June 15, 2021 Posted June 15, 2021 He's practicing for the season i hope he continues LOL !! 1
Malazan Posted June 15, 2021 Posted June 15, 2021 I get that we like this and don't want to consider any 'excuses', but it was a torrential downpour. If this was an actual game, they wouldn't have been playing. 1 1 1
Aussie Joe Posted June 15, 2021 Posted June 15, 2021 1 minute ago, jeremy2020 said: I get that we like this and don't want to consider any 'excuses', but it was a torrential downpour. If this was an actual game, they wouldn't have been playing. The Dolphins fans are saying that this is a remarkable catching exhibition from their secondary in appalling conditions so whats not to like...? 1
FireChans Posted June 15, 2021 Posted June 15, 2021 Mandatory reading for anyone actively participating in this thread. 1 1
GunnerBill Posted June 15, 2021 Posted June 15, 2021 I mean while this would obviously be concerning I imagine the Dolphins are really emphasising taking chances and getting the ball out to Tua at the moment. His biggest issue in 2020 was being too safe. He didn't throw to guys who weren't wide open. At this stage of the offseason there might be an element of over compensating. Not to say this is good, it's not - and there was always the concern as to whether his arm is good enough to make tight window NFL throws. But conservatism was the first problem to tackle with Tua. If this season playing more aggressive he becomes a turn over machine then they will have to move on, but that is preferable to trying to prop him up another year playing small ball football and hiding his limitations. 1
Purplebulldog Posted June 15, 2021 Posted June 15, 2021 Well its mini camp. However, I think if he stinks the joint up this year, they have the 22 draft capital to pull the trigger on Watson, if he is cleared. That's not a great thought
DQW87 Posted June 15, 2021 Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) To be fair, they were wearing Dolphin helmets too. Edited June 21, 2021 by DQW87 1
YoloinOhio Posted June 15, 2021 Author Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) Noted tua homer 19 minutes ago, FireChans said: Mandatory reading for anyone actively participating in this thread. 7 picks over 6 TC practices with a live defense? Not a huge deal Edited June 15, 2021 by YoloinOhio 1
Solomon Grundy Posted June 15, 2021 Posted June 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Didn't Mahomes throw a lot of interceptions leading up to the 2018 season? Just sayin' Peyton Manning and Troy Aikman used to throw a lot of INTs too
Rochesterfan Posted June 15, 2021 Posted June 15, 2021 59 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: I get that we like this and don't want to consider any 'excuses', but it was a torrential downpour. If this was an actual game, they wouldn't have been playing. When have they stopped a game due to rain? If there was Lightning games get postponed, but they would of canceled practice if that was the case also. They have played games in the aftermath of hurricanes with non-stop rain. This is a potential playing condition that he might have to deal with. 2 1
cd1 Posted June 15, 2021 Posted June 15, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Nothing to look at here - Fitz will come... OH WAIT - WHAT, NO FITZ???? 😱 Edited June 15, 2021 by cd1
Rochesterfan Posted June 15, 2021 Posted June 15, 2021 58 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I mean while this would obviously be concerning I imagine the Dolphins are really emphasising taking chances and getting the ball out to Tua at the moment. His biggest issue in 2020 was being too safe. He didn't throw to guys who weren't wide open. At this stage of the offseason there might be an element of over compensating. Not to say this is good, it's not - and there was always the concern as to whether his arm is good enough to make tight window NFL throws. But conservatism was the first problem to tackle with Tua. If this season playing more aggressive he becomes a turn over machine then they will have to move on, but that is preferable to trying to prop him up another year playing small ball football and hiding his limitations. I agree, but it was noted that the throws were not real aggressive - so it did not sound like overcompensating- it sounded more like a very wet/heavy ball and bad placement/late throws.
GunnerBill Posted June 15, 2021 Posted June 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: I agree, but it was noted that the throws were not real aggressive - so it did not sound like overcompensating- it sounded more like a very wet/heavy ball and bad placement/late throws. Some of the placement is about him holding it too long though. I don't mean aggressive in terms of chucking it down the field so much as I mean letting the ball go. He was scared to let it go. That is the absolute first thing to tackle. They might have to live with some picks even in the season but they can't win babying him. They have to be prepared to fail big to give him a chance to succeed IMO. You can't develop franchise QBs playing defense and running the ball then just asking them to make a few throws anymore. You have to take the risk that they suck by developing them throwing. 2
klos63 Posted June 15, 2021 Posted June 15, 2021 We should probably enjoy this while we can. Miami will really push for DeShaun now. 1
HardyBoy Posted June 15, 2021 Posted June 15, 2021 meh, it's day 1 of mini camp and no idea what lead to the picks, good throws/bad throws, on the receivers/qbd, etc. That said...hahaha poor dolphin fans!
Rochesterfan Posted June 16, 2021 Posted June 16, 2021 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Some of the placement is about him holding it too long though. I don't mean aggressive in terms of chucking it down the field so much as I mean letting the ball go. He was scared to let it go. That is the absolute first thing to tackle. They might have to live with some picks even in the season but they can't win babying him. They have to be prepared to fail big to give him a chance to succeed IMO. You can't develop franchise QBs playing defense and running the ball then just asking them to make a few throws anymore. You have to take the risk that they suck by developing them throwing. Gunner - I totally agree - I took your aggressive comment as tighter window throws - not chucking it down field. The comment from the reporter sounded like these were not even necessarily tight throws - they were late throws and with the water logged ball - slow and the defense got to them. Maybe in better weather those are completions and as others have said - it is June - he has a lot of time, but when you combine this with his being babied last year and not taking risks - even when supported by a top flight defense and couple that with a new OC - so many new things to learn - I am not sure they are developing a franchise QB properly. I would say this staff has broken just about every rule for properly developing a QB they could. They put him in before he was ready. They let him play while injured- even if mild. They pulled him in close and important games. They babied him when he was the QB. They switched OC after his first season. 2
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