The American Media Should Not Be Trusted

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

9 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Tibs, with all due respect, what your example shows is just how inaccurate the polling is these days, and has been for the last few election cycles. I cannot blame either the left leaning or right leaning media on this one. They don’t take the time or invest the resources to do much more than read the polls they’re given to read. The problem isn’t the media here.

Not necessarily, voting behavior on a hidden secret ballot or behind a curtain versus polling positions that are said out loud to a person. that matters…

 

point 1 trump always always always himself out performed polling. possible explanation people that couldn’t stand him told everyone they wouldn’t vote for him, but behind the curtain perhaps some element of policy was just enough.

 

point 2, Rs underperformed polls this time.. what was the top issue on the ballot that people might not want to be transparent about?? Abortion! So overtly: economy bad, abortion evil… privately behind a curtain maybe having that escape hatch from an undesirable situation is more influential. 

7 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Rush Limbo profited off Conservatives, that makes him a liberal...or something 🙄

Aaaah that’s what you think of as mainstream media. Now the delusion adds up.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Not necessarily, voting behavior on a hidden secret ballot or behind a curtain versus polling positions that are said out loud to a person. that matters…

 

point 1 trump always always always himself out performed polling. possible explanation people that couldn’t stand him told everyone they wouldn’t vote for him, but behind the curtain perhaps some element of policy was just enough.

 

point 2, Rs underperformed polls this time.. what was the top issue on the ballot that people might not want to be transparent about?? Abortion! So overtly: economy bad, abortion evil… privately behind a curtain maybe having that escape hatch from an undesirable situation is more influential. 

Aaaah that’s what you think of as mainstream media. Now the delusion adds up.

“ Rush Limbo” though, ya gotta give @Tiberius credit for slipping in a humdinger there.  

[BillsFanNC]

11 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

“ Rush Limbo” though, ya gotta give @Tiberius credit for slipping in a humdinger there.  

 

Stole it.

 

 

[ChiGoose]

Looks like the polling for the midterms turned out to be excellent. 
 

Per The Economist:

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“The Economist has built a statistical model to estimate vote-counts in each race based on the number of outstanding ballots in each county. This model shows Republicans on track to win roughly 50.8% of the total votes cast for either major party in the chamber. If so, pollsters will have come impressively close: our aggregate of so-called generic-ballot polls had the party winning 50.4%.”

 

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The story is much the same elsewhere. Across 19 states that had competitive Senate races this year, polls for presidential and Senate races in 2020 overestimated Democratic candidates’ vote margin by an average of 4.7 points. This year they appear to have undershot the party by 0.9 points on average. 

 

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It will take months for pollsters to probe why they did not suffer so badly this year from the methodological spectres haunting their methods last time. One theory is that Donald Trump’s presence on the ticket heightens turnout among lower-propensity voters who do not answer pollsters’ calls. That caused polls to underestimate Republicans in presidential years but not in midterms.
 

Another possibility is that aggregates were dominated by pollsters who are friendly towards Republicans, biasing our forecasts. Nine of the final ten polls released for the New Hampshire Senate race, for example, came from firms that our algorithms estimate were friendlier towards Republicans than the average pollster. That is a good reminder that, when it comes to election prediction, most prognosticators are at the mercy of the pollsters. This time round, they have done well. 

So if the polling was excellent, but everyone is surprised by the outcome, that does lead credence to the idea that our media sucks. 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, ChiGoose said:

Looks like the polling for the midterms turned out to be excellent. 
 

Per The Economist:

 

 

So if the polling was excellent, but everyone is surprised by the outcome, that does lead credence to the idea that our media sucks. 

 

More like people are stupid.  

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, ChiGoose said:

Looks like the polling for the midterms turned out to be excellent. 
 

Per The Economist:

 

 

So if the polling was excellent, but everyone is surprised by the outcome, that does lead credence to the idea that our media sucks. 

No argument from me. Our media definitely sucks. The American people better get used to the fact that they’re not being fed what they used to think of as news reporting. Everything is just an opinion show now. Sad…and terribly exhausting.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

                                                

 

 

 

 

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[SCBills]

Excited to see who does, and doesn’t, cover this story. 
 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

                                        

 

 

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

9 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

                                        

 

 

 

 

so a portion of the billions in aid funneled to the Ukraine was then laundered through ftx back to a democratic super pac? 
 

close? 

[Tiberius]

China 100% agrees with this thread title! 

 

As reporters were being ushered out of the room, a TV producer called out to ask Biden if he would raise human rights during the talks. A man on the Chinese side yanked the producer backward by her backpack, and she lost her balance but didn’t fall. Two White House staff members then intervened and said the producer should be left alone.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/11/14/biden-xi-meeting-bali-g20/

[B-Man]

 

 

 

DEMOCRACY DIES IN POOR HEADLINE CHOICES: 

 

Suspected U-Va. gunman had troubled childhood, but then flourished.

—The Washington Post, today.

 

Might want to rethink this one, fellas:

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

GENTLEMEN, YOU CAN’T COMMIT JOURNALISM HERE — THIS IS A NEWS SHOW! NBC suspends correspondent . . . . . . 

 

after network was forced to retract exclusive report on how Nancy Pelosi’s husband Paul, 82, calmly opened door to cops — and then walked towards ‘hammer intruder’ who bludgeoned him.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11428999/NBC-SUSPENDS-correspondent-network-forced-retract-exclusive-report-Paul-Pelosi-attack.html

 

 

 

Still awaiting the suspensions for the fake "dossier / collusion stories.

 

 

 

[BillStime]

I can see why @SCBills thinks the media cannot be trusted - lolz

 

 

[B-Man]

 

I QUESTION THE TIMING, AS THEY SAY: 

 

Four Developments That Waited Until After the Midterms.

 

 

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2022/11/17/five-developments-that-waited-until-after-the-midterms-n1646639

[Tiberius]

28 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

I QUESTION THE TIMING, AS THEY SAY: 

 

Four Developments That Waited Until After the Midterms.

 

 

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2022/11/17/five-developments-that-waited-until-after-the-midterms-n1646639

So there is a conspiracy involving all the media companies working together? That's the gist of this post and the entire thread? 

 

Sounds a lot like something the authoritarian governments say about the free press 

[B-Man]

 

[B-Man]

 

[Orlando Buffalo]

3 hours ago, Tiberius said:

So there is a conspiracy involving all the media companies working together? That's the gist of this post and the entire thread? 

 

Sounds a lot like something the authoritarian governments say about the free press 

Before the last election every liberal news source lied about Bidens son laptop, in 2012 Candy Crowley lied during a debate to benefit Obama,  in 2004 CBS made up a whole story about GWB, so the accusation is not without precedent.