Tenhigh Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 8 hours ago, BillStime said: Say's the coward live here at 2billsdrive dot com. Coming up empty just like all the other desperate hacks - @Doc @B-Man @Big Blitz @Tenhigh@Albwan - keep trying flakes - you'll never win. Leave those guys out of it for a minute. I am happy to discuss any topic you'd like. Here is the format: no memes, no tweets, no "but Trump" (unless he is the actual topic), just two adults discussing a topic reasonably. Pretend we are in person. Now, should we discuss the topic of the thread? Death penalty? Abortion? Vaccine mandates? Immigration? Dealers choice.
JaCrispy Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, B-Man said: Back to the thread. Corrupt Media Censor News of Illegal Who Raped Woman on Philly Train https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/brad-wilmouth/2021/10/22/corrupt-media-censor-news-illegal-who-raped-woman-philly-train The media doesn't take sides...... CNN Accuses GOP of 'Partisan' Redistricting, Ignores Democrat Gerrymandering https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/lydia-switzer/2021/10/22/cnn-accuses-gop-partisan-redistricting-ignores-dem-gerrymandering Your first story is what is known as “Anti-racism”....it protects non whites from judgement, even when they assault someone...it is what CRT looks like when it’s put into practice by the MSM...doesn’t that just seem like the perfect utopia you’ve always been waiting for? 😉 Edited October 23, 2021 by JaCrispy
Doc Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 10 hours ago, BillStime said: Say's the coward live here at 2billsdrive dot com. Coming up empty just like all the other desperate hacks - @Doc @B-Man @Big Blitz @Tenhigh@Albwan - keep trying flakes - you'll never win. Yeah, you're a real winner.
BillStime Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Doc said: Yeah, you're a real winner. Thank you 1
BillStime Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Tenhigh said: Leave those guys out of it for a minute. I am happy to discuss any topic you'd like. Here is the format: no memes, no tweets, no "but Trump" (unless he is the actual topic), just two adults discussing a topic reasonably. Pretend we are in person. Now, should we discuss the topic of the thread? Death penalty? Abortion? Vaccine mandates? Immigration? Dealers choice. There are plenty of the threads to choose from - go nuts
JaCrispy Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) People want to know why there’s vaccine hesitancy? How could anyone feel safe taking an injection from people who push stuff like this? The more they lie, the more they pump out disinformation, the more people reject...and that’s just the truth... Edited October 23, 2021 by JaCrispy 1
Tenhigh Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 5 hours ago, BillStime said: There are plenty of the threads to choose from - go nuts Nope, this is squarely on you. You can choose to start a new thread or I can do it for you, but you have to pick a topic you are comfortable posting in without the nonsense.
BillStime Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 53 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: Nope, this is squarely on you. You can choose to start a new thread or I can do it for you, but you have to pick a topic you are comfortable posting in without the nonsense. Sure - let’s discuss the placement of the Buffalo Bills new stadium.
Tenhigh Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, BillStime said: Sure - let’s discuss the placement of the Buffalo Bills new stadium. If that is the only thing you can discuss reasonably, ok. I like putting it right next door to the existing stadium. I think it keeps the footprint of the team the same and allows for tailgating to continue unfettered. If you put it downtown I am worried our tailgating and fan atmosphere will suffer greatly. I also question how much use a domed stadium would actually receive. I don't feel it will pay for itself in less than a decade. Where do you want it and why?
T master Posted October 24, 2021 Posted October 24, 2021 On 6/10/2021 at 7:09 AM, SCBills said: I guess we can just keep a list here of everything the media has lied, or “misinformed” the public of over the last few years. Russiagate Bountygate Officer Sicknick skull bashed in with a fire extinguisher Covington Catholic kids Hunter Biden’s laptop is “Russian misinformation” ”Debunked” Wuhan lab leak President Trump “tear gassed” protesters for a photo op The science behind hydroxychloroquine https://www.target.com/p/rigged-by-mollie-hemingway-hardcover/-/A-83226546
BillStime Posted October 24, 2021 Posted October 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Tenhigh said: If that is the only thing you can discuss reasonably, ok. I like putting it right next door to the existing stadium. I think it keeps the footprint of the team the same and allows for tailgating to continue unfettered. If you put it downtown I am worried our tailgating and fan atmosphere will suffer greatly. I also question how much use a domed stadium would actually receive. I don't feel it will pay for itself in less than a decade. Where do you want it and why? A $1,400,000,000 investment should go in the core of the region. An area like Buffalo has to leverage a once in a lifetime transformational opportunity to capitalize on what a new stadium presents: investing in the necessary infrastructure in the city to benefit the entire region. Building it in OP brings zero benefit to the region. I love tailgating in OP but after experiencing game day in cities like Seattle, Baltimore, Nashville, and Pittsburgh - there is zero comparison. Even Bob Kraft wanted to build the Patriots new stadium in Boston: not Foxboro. Seattle’s stadium is nestled up to a thriving neighborhood filled w bars, restaurants, condos, hotels and offices. The area was jumpin before and after the game. It was insane. A city like Buffalo could significantly benefit from that investment. WNY can make the case for federal funds to expand our metro to the airport, UB, Niagara etc. something that will never happen in OP. The entire region benefits w a downtown stadium. Only those w a elementary view of the NFL buys into tailgating in OP. Building the stadium in the city - closer to its largest mega market - southern Ontario - makes the team viable for a lifetime.
Tenhigh Posted October 24, 2021 Posted October 24, 2021 38 minutes ago, BillStime said: A $1,400,000,000 investment should go in the core of the region. An area like Buffalo has to leverage a once in a lifetime transformational opportunity to capitalize on what a new stadium presents: investing in the necessary infrastructure in the city to benefit the entire region. Building it in OP brings zero benefit to the region. I love tailgating in OP but after experiencing game day in cities like Seattle, Baltimore, Nashville, and Pittsburgh - there is zero comparison. Even Bob Kraft wanted to build the Patriots new stadium in Boston: not Foxboro. Seattle’s stadium is nestled up to a thriving neighborhood filled w bars, restaurants, condos, hotels and offices. The area was jumpin before and after the game. It was insane. A city like Buffalo could significantly benefit from that investment. WNY can make the case for federal funds to expand our metro to the airport, UB, Niagara etc. something that will never happen in OP. The entire region benefits w a downtown stadium. Only those w a elementary view of the NFL buys into tailgating in OP. Building the stadium in the city - closer to its largest mega market - southern Ontario - makes the team viable for a lifetime. I have been to a lot of downtown stadiums, and I have yet to find one that compares to the OP experience, at least in my view. Personally, I like the community you see at the private lots, and I love that I am not forced to jam myself into an overcrowded bar to pregame. While some of the nightlife you see in Seattle is ok, I just don't think that model will work for Buffalo, it doesn't fit the culture of the region. Personally, I have no issue jumping into an Uber after the game and going go Bar Bill if I want to go out after. I don't know that the infrastructure money coming to the state would be best spent on the needs to accommodate a downtown stadium. I think that extra billion could do a lot more good elsewhere. Or to pay down a tiny little bit of the national debt.
BillStime Posted October 24, 2021 Posted October 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: I have been to a lot of downtown stadiums, and I have yet to find one that compares to the OP experience, at least in my view. Personally, I like the community you see at the private lots, and I love that I am not forced to jam myself into an overcrowded bar to pregame. While some of the nightlife you see in Seattle is ok, I just don't think that model will work for Buffalo, it doesn't fit the culture of the region. Personally, I have no issue jumping into an Uber after the game and going go Bar Bill if I want to go out after. I don't know that the infrastructure money coming to the state would be best spent on the needs to accommodate a downtown stadium. I think that extra billion could do a lot more good elsewhere. Or to pay down a tiny little bit of the national debt. You build closer to your economic engine.
Tenhigh Posted October 24, 2021 Posted October 24, 2021 42 minutes ago, BillStime said: You build closer to your economic engine. To what end?
BillStime Posted October 24, 2021 Posted October 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Tenhigh said: To what end? When you are the second smallest market in the NFL - you have to do everything you can to maximize revenue. Terry doesn’t make ***** your tailgate… but getting this stadium in the city - around amenities that make it appealing for c-suite types up in Southern Ontario to spend big bucks on suites - you do it.
Doc Posted October 24, 2021 Posted October 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, BillStime said: When you are the second smallest market in the NFL - you have to do everything you can to maximize revenue. Terry doesn’t make ***** your tailgate… but getting this stadium in the city - around amenities that make it appealing for c-suite types up in Southern Ontario to spend big bucks on suites - you do it. Terry doesn't have to maximize revenue: he will still be making great money through TV and digital/streaming revenue. The team is bought and paid for so he has no debt there, and likely by this time (7+ years of ownership) he has made enough in profit to recover his initial investment. For him, a downtown stadium doesn't offer added value versus the extra money he'll have to spend as c-suites can easily be sold in OP as downtown (it's less than 1/2 hour away). Now if the state says "we want it downtown" and will spend the extra money to do it, I doubt Terry will have a problem with it. But the state will have to cover the difference.
BillStime Posted October 24, 2021 Posted October 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, Doc said: Terry doesn't have to maximize revenue: he will still be making great money through TV and digital/streaming revenue. The team is bought and paid for so he has no debt there, and likely by this time (7+ years of ownership) he has made enough in profit to recover his initial investment. For him, a downtown stadium doesn't offer added value versus the extra money he'll have to spend as c-suites can easily be sold in OP as downtown (it's less than 1/2 hour away). Now if the state says "we want it downtown" and will spend the extra money to do it, I doubt Terry will have a problem with it. But the state will have to cover the difference. You don't think there is pressure on Terry to keep up with the Jones? Most valuable NFL franchises revealed: Cowboys and Patriots top 2021 ranking, Bills and Bengals at the bottom
Thurman#1 Posted October 24, 2021 Posted October 24, 2021 The American media is the worst source on the planet. Barring all the others, that is. Oh, except Facebook sources. They're gold. Believe everything they say.
Doc Posted October 24, 2021 Posted October 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, BillStime said: You don't think there is pressure on Terry to keep up with the Jones? Most valuable NFL franchises revealed: Cowboys and Patriots top 2021 ranking, Bills and Bengals at the bottom No. Buffalo doesn't have near the market to compete with the top markets. All that Terry is expected to do is get a new stadium and that will push the Bills out of the bottom-5, at least.
BillStime Posted October 24, 2021 Posted October 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Doc said: No. Buffalo doesn't have near the market to compete with the top markets. All that Terry is expected to do is get a new stadium and that will push the Bills out of the bottom-5, at least. So, you agree, Terry is under pressure to maximize his revenue potential.
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