Orlando Buffalo Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 The crash in NF is one of the big problems with media today, in a rush to be first, CNN, NBC, Fox, and ABC all have different "facts" of what happened and all contradict each other. 3 of them at least are lying if not all 4. Anyone who believes initial reports is stupid at this point because accuracy is not important to any of them. 1
B-Man Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 “How could you be a specialist in political rhetoric and not realize that war rhetoric is very common in political speech about domestic matters?” There's the war on poverty, the war on drugs, the war on crime, and we're endlessly fighting and battling in political campaigns and in governing after the victories have been won in battleground states. That NYT piece — "Trump's Dire Words" — follows the conventional wisdom that Trump is an extreme outlier. Ironically, he's treated the way an enemy is treated in wartime. I agree that we should pay attention and be alert about authoritarianism, but I don't think that is achieved by assuming that Trump and Trump alone is the threat. https://althouse.blogspot.com/2023/11/normally-president-would-use-war.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/20/us/politics/trump-rhetoric-fascism.html?smid=url-share The goal is to portray Trump as deviant, even when he’s doing the same thing as everyone else. . 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 CNN talking about anything outside of EU nationalism, as Trumpism. Can't make it up. https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/23/europe/geert-wilders-dutch-election-analysis-intl/index.html The shock The EU is generally good at containing these sorts of leaders. In some cases it can soften their impact by dangling financial carrots or assistance with policies aimed at domestic audiences, such as border control. However, having them inside the tent can also lead to problems. election results in the Netherlands have taken Europe by surprise, and left many onlookers unsure exactly what happens next. Far-right populist Geert Wilders and his Freedom Party (PVV) are now seeking to form a government after an unexpectedly big win in Wednesday’s national vote. “I honestly feel like this is the Trump moment for the Dutch. The things that happened after (Donald) Trump was elected, the sentiments and changes in politics, this could be similar,” Catherine de Vries, a political science professor at Italy’s Bocconi University, told CNN The rise of European populism is not exactly new. Italy currently has its most right-wing government since the end of the Second World War and Slovakia re-elected the left-wing populist Robert Fico to office in September. Having more than one delinquent in the club also means they can gang up. This can happen both in the Council – which is made up of ministers and leaders from national governments – and in the European Parliament, where parties on the right or left from different countries form alliances. The most obvious examples of this are in France, where President Emmanuel Macron has aped anti-Islam rhetoric in order to not be outflanked by Le Pen, and in the United Kingdom, where the center-right Conservative Party is almost unrecognizable after 13 years in power and the influence of Brexit. At the annual Conservative Party conference earlier this year, Farage was greeted like a hero by a number of delegates, despite being arguably the biggest threat to the party. 17 hours ago, B-Man said: “How could you be a specialist in political rhetoric and not realize that war rhetoric is very common in political speech about domestic matters?” There's the war on poverty, the war on drugs, the war on crime, and we're endlessly fighting and battling in political campaigns and in governing after the victories have been won in battleground states. That NYT piece — "Trump's Dire Words" — follows the conventional wisdom that Trump is an extreme outlier. Ironically, he's treated the way an enemy is treated in wartime. I agree that we should pay attention and be alert about authoritarianism, but I don't think that is achieved by assuming that Trump and Trump alone is the threat. https://althouse.blogspot.com/2023/11/normally-president-would-use-war.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/20/us/politics/trump-rhetoric-fascism.html?smid=url-share The goal is to portray Trump as deviant, even when he’s doing the same thing as everyone else. . Trump is an extreme outlier. Not so much in a statistical sense. as he is in the same class as the rest of the Representatives. but in a sociological way, like Gladwell proposed. it kind of fits.
Orlando Buffalo Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 12 hours ago, Tiberius said: The second comic should tell you how much the left is considered liars, I do trust Trump more than the Big Guy, or Kamala but I certainly don't want him as my first choice. 1 1
John from Riverside Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 13 hours ago, B-Man said: Your painting, AmericanS with an awfully broad brush I’m an American and I can’t stand right wing media I don’t listen to most of the left wing media, except for a few outlets, but I have yet to find a right wing that is worth anything 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/24/world/europe/dublin-riots-police.html Rumors of the stabbing, which were more accurate then what the media was portraying, led to the riots. I would probably have said the stabbing led to the riots 1
B-Man Posted November 26, 2023 Posted November 26, 2023 However much you dislike the media, it isn't enough. 1 1
B-Man Posted November 29, 2023 Posted November 29, 2023 MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski Says Everybody Knows a Person Who Has Suffered Like Hunter Biden President Biden's approval numbers are dismal on most topics, especially the economy, but just imagine where they might be if there weren't so many people in the media working 24/7 to bury the truth. The media also goes out of its way to keep the narrative about Joe Biden's son from being too much of a burden for the president. When it comes to that, MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski is doing her part: https://twitchy.com/dougp/2023/11/29/mike-brzezinski-says-everybody-knows-somebody-who-has-suffered-like-hunter-biden-n2390295 . 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted November 29, 2023 Posted November 29, 2023 18 minutes ago, B-Man said: MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski Says Everybody Knows a Person Who Has Suffered Like Hunter Biden President Biden's approval numbers are dismal on most topics, especially the economy, but just imagine where they might be if there weren't so many people in the media working 24/7 to bury the truth. The media also goes out of its way to keep the narrative about Joe Biden's son from being too much of a burden for the president. When it comes to that, MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski is doing her part: https://twitchy.com/dougp/2023/11/29/mike-brzezinski-says-everybody-knows-somebody-who-has-suffered-like-hunter-biden-n2390295 . I think most of us know/can Identify a POS like hunter. we just know those are the kinds of people to avoid and cut out of one's lives.
BillsFanNC Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 It's impossible to despise the media enough. 1 1
B-Man Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 However much you dislike the media, it isn't enough. NY Times: Don’t Worry About the $112.1B in Shoplifting, It’s a Right-Wing Narrative By Bob Hoge The New York Times has developed a well-deserved reputation for gaslighting its readers by scorning narratives that don’t fit its increasingly left bent. Once considered the foremost news organization in the country and possibly the world, it has descended into a woke blog whose stories more often seem to emanate from a fledgling college student rather than from actual expert reporters. To wit, I received the following newsletter in my email recently: “We’re covering claims of a shoplifting boom… Viral exaggerations.” Really, NY Slimes? It’s the right-wing media who are concocting this crisis out of thin air, we’ve “pounced on it," as they love to say—it’s not actually a serious consideration? https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2023/12/02/ny-times-dont-worry-about-all-that-shoplifting-its-a-right-wing-narrative-n2167075 .
Doc Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 The biggest threat to the country and has been for the better part of the past 2 decades. 1
aristocrat Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: dammit I came here to post this lol. What a way to think 1
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