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Country A is at War with "Country" (semi-autonomous entity) B. They are both firing rockets at each other.

Something blows up in Country B. It is natural and obvious to attribute that to Country A.

Later, if new facts emerge, that may change.

This is no different than what happens when it turns out that a U.S. serviceman in Afghanistan is wounded, and it turns out that it was due to friendly fire.

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B-Man
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The media does not report any more, they lecture.            

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You must think yourself clever by believing that by simply invoking Putin you're entitled to shut down any sensible or intelligent debate no matter the topic.  No matter how comical that answer might

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Try that again proper English.

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1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Country A is at War with "Country" (semi-autonomous entity) B. They are both firing rockets at each other.

Something blows up in Country B. It is natural and obvious to attribute that to Country A.

Later, if new facts emerge, that may change.

This is no different than what happens when it turns out that a U.S. serviceman in Afghanistan is wounded, and it turns out that it was due to friendly fire.

maybe its the fog of war. maybe its the same investors for the military industrial also sit on the boards of corporate media.

 

But same crap played out countless times with Ukraine reporting.  

 

Like Danzel said, they rush for first. and in turn, dont worry about details or facts.

 

Denzel Washington Blasts the Media on Dishonesty and 'Fake News' - YouTube

 

 

 

 

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The thing to understand is that — just as in the Michael Brown / George Floyd era — these false reports aren’t just the result of bias or sloppiness.

 

They’re intentional propaganda, designed to justify a violent response like riots in city centers, or at U.S. embassies.

 

It doesn’t matter if/when they’re proven false.

 

And yes, the press outlets involved know all this and are complicit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

JIM TREACHER: The Curious Case of the Hospital That Didn’t Blow Up.

 

As it turns out, the people who behead babies and lie about it will also lie about other stuff.

 

Yesterday we got the news that Israel blew up a hospital in Gaza and killed 500 people.

 

However, there were a few minor, nitpicky problems with the story:

1) The hospital wasn’t blown up,

2) Nowhere near 500 people were killed, and

3) Israel had nothing to do with it.

 

It didn’t happen the way Hamas claimed it happened. A misfiring Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket hit the hospital. It torched some cars in the parking lot and killed some unfortunate people, but not 500. That’s awful for the people who were killed, but Israel didn’t kill them.

 

 

 

If any of this is a shock to you, then you must work in the media.

 

 

 

https://jimtreacher.substack.com/p/the-curious-case-of-the-hospital?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=206067&post_id=138072949&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=131lq&utm_medium=email

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4 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Didn't Orwell call that "newspeak"

 

it's a fine example of it.

 

They call them militants when they are terrorist that are also terrorizing the Palestinians.

 

 

 

 

More just like altering history to control the narrative.

 

Orwellian newspeak was an attempt to make language less expressive and people easier to control.

 

It was double plus good, just like the New York Times... ;)

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15 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

The thing to understand is that — just as in the Michael Brown / George Floyd era — these false reports aren’t just the result of bias or sloppiness.

 

They’re intentional propaganda, designed to justify a violent response like riots in city centers, or at U.S. embassies.

 

It doesn’t matter if/when they’re proven false.

 

And yes, the press outlets involved know all this and are complicit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

JIM TREACHER: The Curious Case of the Hospital That Didn’t Blow Up.

 

As it turns out, the people who behead babies and lie about it will also lie about other stuff.

 

Yesterday we got the news that Israel blew up a hospital in Gaza and killed 500 people.

 

However, there were a few minor, nitpicky problems with the story:

1) The hospital wasn’t blown up,

2) Nowhere near 500 people were killed, and

3) Israel had nothing to do with it.

 

It didn’t happen the way Hamas claimed it happened. A misfiring Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket hit the hospital. It torched some cars in the parking lot and killed some unfortunate people, but not 500. That’s awful for the people who were killed, but Israel didn’t kill them.

 

 

 

If any of this is a shock to you, then you must work in the media.

 

 

 

https://jimtreacher.substack.com/p/the-curious-case-of-the-hospital?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=206067&post_id=138072949&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=131lq&utm_medium=email

Isn't believing Israeli intelligence  (one of the combatants, with a vested interest in showing that it did not attack a hospital, a war crime) without question, seconded by the USA (which has expressed support for Israel), just an example of the same thing?

The "fact" is we don't know anything for sure, at least not yet.

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Another means to reduce cognitive dissonance is selective exposure. This theory has been discussed since the early days of Festinger's proposal of cognitive dissonance. He noticed that people would selectively expose themselves to some media over others; specifically, they would avoid dissonant messages and prefer consonant messages.[14] Through selective exposure, people actively (and selectively) choose what to watch, view, or read that fit to their current state of mind, mood or beliefs.[15] In other words, consumers select attitude-consistent information and avoid attitude-challenging information.[16] This can be applied to media, news, music, and any other messaging channel. The idea is, choosing something that is in opposition to how you feel or believe in will increase cognitive dissonance. (stress)

 

In fact, recent research has suggested that while a discrepancy between cognitions drives individuals to crave for attitude-consistent information, the experience of negative emotions drives individuals to avoid counter attitudinal information. In other words, it is the psychological discomfort which activates selective exposure as a dissonance-reduction strategy (avoid the stresser)

 

The contradiction of a belief, ideal, or system of values causes cognitive dissonance that can be resolved by changing the challenged belief, yet, instead of effecting change, the resultant mental stress restores psychological consonance to the person by misperception, rejection, or refutation of the contradiction, seeking moral support from people who share the contradicted beliefs or acting to persuade other people that the contradiction is unreal

 

The corporate media/social media companies know and profits from this.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Doc said:

If you believe a word from Hamas...you might be incredibly stupid. 

 

And wait, the hospital wasn't hit and 500 people didn't die?  Just when you thought Hamas couldn't sink into the cesspool any more...

 

 

At first I thought that, how did they expect to get away with this lie ?

 

When the sun came up this morning the hospital was still going to be there.

 

And then I started to read responses from around the world and here also,

It showed me why.

 

It doesn't matter that it was disproved, the lie is fact now.

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, B-Man said:

They’re intentional propaganda, designed to justify a violent response like riots in city centers, or at U.S. embassies.

 

It doesn’t matter if/when they’re proven false.

 

And yes, the press outlets involved know all this and are complicit

 

 

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7 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Country A is at War with "Country" (semi-autonomous entity) B. They are both firing rockets at each other.

Something blows up in Country B. It is natural and obvious to attribute that to Country A.

Later, if new facts emerge, that may change.

This is no different than what happens when it turns out that a U.S. serviceman in Afghanistan is wounded, and it turns out that it was due to friendly fire.

You are actually defending calling innocent people terrorists? Seriously WTF is wrong with you. BTW country B is run by a literal terrorist organization so maybe an intelligent person waits for confirmation that a hospital actually was blown up? 

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